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As a newcomer...and not knowing how experienced or conditioned you are...I would always recommend starting with a manual routine before going on to devices. It's important to pay close attention to your PI's and adjust your routine as necessary. If you are unconditioned and go ahead with using the devices along with a manual routine take it very slowly and be careful not to overdo things.
I don't use the SG or Bathmate...so I'm not the best person to help you with this. Bobby, the SG rep, should be able to advise on routines and Walter, the BP rep, on the Bathmate. You can search the threads for other members routines or maybe someone with experience of both these devices can chip in and help.
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So to explain my experience a bit more. I started out doing the beginner routine that is outlined in the goodlookingloser site and matterofsize. I felt that I had made some decent gains. Most of the gains were in my flaccid state. I went from 2.5-3 inches flaccid to almost 4.5 inches. I do experience this to this day (about 2 years later withe the last 6 months only using bathmate 3-4 days a week with very little streching and uncle Jims wrap.)
Now I have to say that I feel my girth has increased also. I started out around 5 inches and now when erect I'm around 5 3/4. In the bathmate after a 20 minute session it gets to 6 1/4. I absolutely love this part of the session! When erect I feel I get to 5 3/4 so I feel that I have cemented that part. The length I would say I have cemented about an 1/2 inch from 5 inches erect to 5 1/2 inches.
So to answer the question of how well my penis is conditioned is its used to training but I feel that I should start over with a more less intense training session and work myself back into more intensity since I've really taken a break because of the break. I really wasn't doing any manual excercises other than a 15 minute session before putting on the extender. Also minor streching in between sessions also.
So hopefully that gives u a better idea of where I am now.....:)
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I meant to say I took a break because my SG broke....
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Good on u mate keep it up:) you have do do lot of research like I did it.
Good luck
Happy PE
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Had the same experience with the matters of size site that of paying to join and then needing my user name and password and never getting any response.Bad experience.
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Yeah...too bad..lol I feel there are a lot if good info on there and DLD is a beast in my opinion. I just feel after being here for a bit there are a lot of guys on here that really care about the process and how to effectively gain and be successful in the PE journey.
One thing they really do get right is that we are a brotherhood and should always be here for each other!!
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Yes Perez....I'm constantly reading and researching on different ways to train and of course eat properly with a good lifestyle...:)
You also keep the faith and make it happen!