hey i read a post where u said u pull your glands all the way forward when hanging with a bib starter..when i do this all i feel is skin stretching. Is this is necessary for my skin to stretch before i feel the ligs stretching? I read where you said theres a sweet spot but i was wondering if you had to stretch your skin before this started happening..

jwandaj, Start! Get a pump that will hold a vacuum to your pubic area, no leaks, it must hold the vacuum. A good pump for this is one with a "flair" at he back. The pump tube ID should be at least twice as big around as your penis. Hold the vacuum for 5 minutes. Try again for 5 minutes, observe what happens. Over the period of a month, if there are no adverse effect, move up to 20 minutes and so on. Use your mouth to suck the vacuum, forget al the electic or mechanical stuff. Message me when you get all the tools in place and I will "talk" you through. P.S. get a quality pump or have one made as I describe in one of my posts. DB

dude im sry i keep coming to u for info but i cant find anything good on pumping... like beginner routines what to expect things pros wish they had known when they started... things that complement pumping... or anything really on pumping other then what pumps to use.. could u maybe shed some light or give me a link to a thread that could thanks mate. always wished i was a shower... now im goin after it.. and your my role model. =)