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- 01-07-2016 #41
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Not making light of your hair loss, but it seems you have a choice to make....either become a bald rabbit or a hairy monk. If I were faced with this dilemma (I'm not), I'd go with the rabbit, myself!
SEX trumps hair any day, IMO!
- 08-20-2016 #42
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There's a lot of scaremongering with Finasteride and Erectile Dysfunction and other myths like penis shrinkage.
Of course it's a commitment when you decide to manipulate your body.
Me and a couple friends have taken it for over 10 years and I have had no complaints, nor did they. I've no kids but they are fathers to 5 healthy kids.
DHT reduction may have other implications, but in blind trials the reduced lybido was under 2%, let alone ED.
Finasteride binds to 5-alpha-reductase enzyme and renders it ineffective converting Testosterone into Di-Hydro-Testosterone. Result, there's more Testosterone available in your blood stream (5% more, if so) and you even get hornier and more aggressive.
DHT is only metabolized in parts of your body. The ultimate reason for baldness is that in some men the hair follicles of the top of their heads are sensitive to DHT after 16-18 years old and the hair shrinks and dies. Ultimately this sensitivity is the infamous genetically acquired Male Pattern Baldness.
Why MPB exists is unknown but some studies showed that head temperature in bald people is higher and bald men average IQ is in average higher. It's still subject to much speculation. I've never met much dumb bald people to be honest, so you can always have this to be proud of, if you choose to accept baldness.
The function of DHT in genitals is well over when you are 18-20. DHT however may have secondary functions in GABA receptors in your brain, much is unknown, some people have reported to become more depressive or anxious and this ultimately can lead to lost of interest in sex like in any depressive state.
Telling a person that Finasteride may have sexual effects had proven to be crucial. The decreased lybido and erectile dysfunction cases rise exponentially when the patient is informed of these effects, even with placebo. The mind is a very powerful thing.Last edited by Joe_Average; 08-20-2016 at 04:50 AM.
- 08-20-2016 #43
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- 08-20-2016 #44
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Just lol @this thread. Was on finasteride for 2 years, its been a month that Im off it. According to this thread I should notice size gains within the next month.
I know I wont, but I will let you guys know if by some miracle i gan more size than what I had before getting the finasteride
- 08-21-2016 #45
Well Joe, you are just blatantly wrong. Finasteride does cause many sexual problems for men, just as anything that reduces DHT can. And DHT still plays a huge role in the penis long after puberty. Its role switches from a mediator for growth to maintaining sexual function. When the penis is androgen deprived, erections become less frequent, veg1 levels fall, tissues become ischemic, tgf1 raises. When tgf1 goes up, erectile tissue undergoes apoptosis (cell suicide), tissue fibrosis and collegen thickening starts, and the corpus cavernosum replaces erectile tissue with adipose tissue (fat).
Don't believe me? Look it up on PubMed.How did I get here?
Well I was looking for Pygmy.com (I gotta thing for small people, so what), and ended up here.
And I've been here ever since.
- 10-16-2016 #46
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It's a theory that makes sense. The trick I would think it too do it correctly and for not too long.
Start with a baseline DHT level then start the treatment.
I would only go about for 6 months, then try to kick start production by using supplements
(not only t boosting supps but dht supps like creatine, butea superba )
But then again ,even starving the receptors of dht, the receptor probably shut down anyway to respond via growth phase. I do believe the receptor can be kick started again,perhaps this way, but probably other ways.
Just like any other receptors in the body. Eventually someone will come up with a scientific way of doing so ,and make millions off of that product.
Hell might as well shut down t overall and have a total restart on life.
- 10-16-2016 #48
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Joe comes from personal experience. Do you? Have you ever taken it or just reading what the guys who are suing them are putting online?
I have been on Avodart for 5 years to lower a dangerously high PSA level (Prostate cancer runs in my family). I was healthy , strong and worked out before. I was a "bull". I read the internet and expected to become a bitch titted , crying depressed imbecile with a shrunken dick. I had no choice though, I had to lower PSA levels pronto.
The results , confirmed by blood work, 55% decrease in DHT, 10% decrease in estrogen levels...and here's the kicker-a 43% increase in free testosterone. Weird. ...not if I read the science. This is exactly what the studies predict. But I guess guys online know more than educated scientist who..you know...actually conduct studies.
In the gym I am a f'ing beast. Out lifting guys 1/2 my age. My sons are jealous and honestly believe I am on TRT. Also, for some reason, aging has stopped cold. I haven't aged one day since I started taking it.My wife is going ape shit.
Remember, I was already pretty jacked before avodart. So.....when will me dick fall off? LMFAO.
Read the science on these things not what weirdos online post. You don't know their motives or the situation they are in. I can show you teens that have bitch tits and no dick due to a diet of Mountain Dew and McDonalds.
PS. My penis is bigger but that's not Avodart. That's PELast edited by deadwood; 10-16-2016 at 01:39 PM.
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Dude, don't bother. People believe what they want to. I have been on Avodart for 5 years and avodart is more potent dht reducer than Fin. My results are nothing like the guys online. Also, there is a law suit going on so take what you read online with a grain of salt. And homosexuals are going hard against these drugs as homosexuals who have taken them have murdered their sex lives due to the decreased prostate size. Anal sex is no longer enjoyable for them and they report they lost "feelings for men". SO there is a political aspect to hating this drug online.
In real life? Everyone Iknow who has taken fin or avodart don't complain.
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