Africans

[happy_accidents3]

I think wolfmesser is talking about shower vs grower thing which doesn't have much to do with erect size. Like I said in my post growers are more likely to come from colder regions but that doesn't mean there are no showers in colder regions.

[Sesq]

I think wolfmesser is talking about shower vs grower thing which doesn't have much to do with erect size. Like I said in my post growers are more likely to come from colder regions but that doesn't mean there are no showers in colder regions.

Everyone is a shower in hot whether, just like everyone is a grower in cold whether. If I stand in front of a heater for a few minutes, my flaccid gets to 6'' x 5.5''. In the cold, I shrink to like 3 x 4. So if he was talking about flaccid size, it was a moot point because everyone knows that.

[happy_accidents3]

some people grow more than others regardless of temperature so its not moot.

[Sesq]

some people grow more than others regardless of temperature so its not moot.

You missed the point, altogether. I know everyone's flaccid grows at different rates, regardless of temperature. Some guys don't grow very much at all. Others grow a few inches. That involves genetics, as you probably know, NOT temperature. However, the point that I was trying to get across, was that men in hotter regions usually will have heavier flaccid hangs than men in colder climates. Of course, some men will still remain the same size flaccid no matter what. However, what proof do you have that men from hotter regions have a higher propensity for this?

Unless your gay (I'm not trying to use this in a pejorative manner lol) and you see many men go from flaccid to erect to determine that men in hotter regions grow less or more, then your argument is still moot.

[UYN]

You missed the point, altogether. I know everyone's flaccid grows at different rates, regardless of temperature. Some guys don't grow very much at all. Others grow a few inches. That involves genetics, as you probably know, NOT temperature. However, the point that I was trying to get across, was that men in hotter regions usually will have heavier flaccid hangs than men in colder climates. Of course, some men will still remain the same size flaccid no matter what. However, what proof do you have that men from hotter regions have a higher propensity for this?

Unless your gay (I'm not trying to use this in a pejorative manner lol) and you see many men go from flaccid to erect to determine that men in hotter regions grow less or more, then your argument is still moot.

Relax, nobody is trying to "win", we are just discussing a case from different angles. Also he doesn't "know", this is a theory, thus it can be challenged and disqualified, as well as approved if enough suggesting evidence points in the right direction. You can also not possibly know that the "growers vs showers" is purely genetic, if so I would very much liked to read your source of information.

-UYN-

[Rock-on]

Race is just an expression of how a group of homo sapiens has evolved. The reason that people living near the equator is brown, is an adaptation to protect themselves. think of Darwin's words: survival of the fittest.
Everything is a genetic adaptation.
As said before in the thread. Asians have a high consumption of soy, which triggers the female hormones. Asians are also having the smallest virginia, which is an adaptation of the penis size. Of Latin Americans are those with the deepest virginias, which is also a adaptation. Latin Americans came among others from the triangle trade (Africans) to America. I am not trying to create a stupid argument, just an attempt to gain more knowledge.

[Sesq]

Relax, nobody is trying to "win", we are just discussing a case from different angles. Also he doesn't "know", this is a theory, thus it can be challenged and disqualified, as well as approved if enough suggesting evidence points in the right direction.

Relax? My post wasn't intended to be interpreted in a hostile tone. It may seem that I'm arguing, but I'm not. Its just the way of my narrative. I am as relaxed as possible right now lol.

You can also not possibly know that the "growers vs showers" is purely genetic...

If you read over my last post and to who I was responding to, you would know what I meant. But instead, I'll reiterate what I said (if anything needs to be amplified, I will. No need to get angry) .
The degree to which one 'shrinks' or 'grows' IS purely genetic. Not everyone is going to be the same size flaccid in a given temperature. Nor are they going to shrink/grow a given number of inches. Some men simply do not shrink at all in cold settings. This is genetic.

My main premise (before I was sidetracked) was that men from hotter climates DO NOT (on average of course) have bigger erect or flaccid sizes than men from colder climates, when they are both placed in the SAME temperature. Assuming all things are neutral and they both have the same erect size, only genetics (yes, purely genetics) will determine their flaccid size (still in the same temperature). I assume both men will be around the same size flaccid, but of course one will be slightly bigger and one will be smaller. It doesn't depend on who came from what climate or who did this or that. Flaccid size is genetic (yes, even when cold or hot) just the same as erect size.

if so I would very much liked to read your source of information.

My source of information is common sense and, unfortunate as it may be, there is no link to that.

[UYN]

Relax? My post wasn't intended to be interpreted in a hostile tone. It may seem that I'm arguing, but I'm not. Its just the way of my narrative. I am as relaxed as possible right now lol.

If you read over my last post and to who I was responding to, you would know what I meant. But instead, I'll reiterate what I said (if anything needs to be amplified, I will. No need to get angry) .
The degree to which one 'shrinks' or 'grows' IS purely genetic. Not everyone is going to be the same size flaccid in a given temperature. Nor are they going to shrink/grow a given number of inches. Some men simply do not shrink at all in cold settings. This is genetic.

My main premise (before I was sidetracked) was that men from hotter climates DO NOT (on average of course) have bigger erect or flaccid sizes than men from colder climates, when they are both placed in the SAME temperature. Assuming all things are neutral and they both have the same erect size, only genetics (yes, purely genetics) will determine their flaccid size (still in the same temperature). I assume both men will be around the same size flaccid, but of course one will be slightly bigger and one will be smaller. It doesn't depend on who came from what climate or who did this or that. Flaccid size is genetic (yes, even when cold or hot) just the same as erect size.

My source of information is common sense and, unfortunate as it may be, there is no link to that.

hahah, okey I see your point, but obviously you are not seeing mine. I do agree that is to some extent genetic, but where do you draw the line? Environment affecting a persons life could be the determining factor in whether or not somebody grows up to be a grower or a shower. The whole nature vs. nurture discussion is one of the most controversial subjects regarding human life. I, on a personal note, stand more on the nature side, but I am just saying that you cannot entire disclose the possibility for nurture being the biggest contributor and blatantly call it common sense.

Also, I doubt either of us are angry by the sense of things. I think this is just misconceived tonality.

-UYN-

[calixto]

hahaha, you guys are just "discussing" and doing a great job. No one seems mad, so as a Moderator, I am not going to get involved. Great discussion guys.

BUT, I would like to think that I am changing my flaccid size, on the other hand I am GRATEFUL that I don't have to wear some jockstrap dick-sling when I work out, and personally I am GLAD my shit shrinks (dick AND balls) so that I can still go commando when I exercise.

[Sesq]

hahah, okey I see your point, but obviously you are not seeing mine. I do agree that is to some extent genetic, but where do you draw the line? Environment affecting a persons life could be the determining factor in whether or not somebody grows up to be a grower or a shower. The whole nature vs. nurture discussion is one of the most controversial subjects regarding human life. I, on a personal note, stand more on the nature side, but I am just saying that you cannot entire disclose the possibility for nurture being the biggest contributor and blatantly call it common sense.

Also, I doubt either of us are angry by the sense of things. I think this is just misconceived tonality.

-UYN-

It very well could, but its not likely. To argue that temperature has any long term affect on penis size, is no more correct than to presume skin color, nutrition/diet or body size would also have any noticeable affect, in my opinion. Weather can have an affect on many things, but it DOES NOT affect or alter something that is already predisposed from the moment of conception, like the size of your Johnson.

See my post (its # 40 on this thread) on why this is true. You'd think that (if weather was a determining factor of your penis size) ALL warm countries/cities would have bigger averages. As I explained earlier, this is definitely not the case, quite the contrary. India, an overall warm, humid, semi tropical country with an average size of 5 x 4.3? You can't cherry pick data. With all warm countries taken into consideration, your argument holds no weight (and I mean that in a nice way lol).