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A few guys have been asking questions about determining their LOT (Loss of Tug-back Angle). If you're unfamiliar with LOT theory, be sure to read this thread here:
LOT Theory
Some will find the results of the LOT test inconclusive or difficult to determine. The "Mirror and Palpation Tests" will help you further confirm the angle at which your penis exits your pelvis.
9 O'Clock - Your penis points completely straight out
8 O'Clock - Your penis points slightly down
7 O'Clock - Your penis has a downward angle
6 O'Clock - Your penis points completely straight down
Source: Bib's Mirror and Palpation tests to Determine LOT
Bib / Bigger:
These two tests go hand in hand with the LOT test in understanding the relationships between the ligs, inner shaft, and outer shaft for each individual. I define the inner shaft 1 as the shaft from the internal anchor point, the crux or bulbs, to the bottom of the pubic bone. I define inner shaft 2 as the shaft from the bottom of the pubic bone to the skin exit point. I define the outer shaft as the portion of penile shaft that can be seen outside of the body.
Much of the gains that may be had by hangers can be made from pulling the inner shaft II out and down, lengthening the ligaments to allow this, and making inner shaft II into outer shaft.
After months of hanging, it may be possible to realize maximum gains from this ligament stretch, which will have the affect of exposing all of the shaft, outer shaft all the way to the inner anchor points, to hanging stresses, at almost any angle. In other words, you may be able to stretch the ligaments in a dedicated fashion enough so that they do not interfere with stressing the entire length of the tunica. At that point in time, you can realize further gains by dedicated tunica stretch.
These tests are designed to help guys find out the condition of their ligs, and what angles and techniques should be most effective and efficient at any particular time.
The LOT test information may be found here:
LOT Theory
Mirror test
The bottom of the pubic bone is what needs to be determined first. Fairly simple: Stand nude in front of a mirror with feet fairly close together. In your mind, draw lines following the groinal grooves down to where they meet. The groinal grooves are where the legs attach to the body. For some guys with legs that are further apart, you may have to imagine a line across from the bottom of one groinal groove to the bottom of the other groinal groove. This line, or in the first example where the lines intersect, is about the bottom of the pubic bone.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1284307063
Next, look at where the penis shaft exits the skin. For some guys, it will be very low, below or even well below the intersection of the groinal lines, indicating a very low LOT. Most porn stars have this physiology. For other guys, it will be up a bit, at the intersection. For others, it may be well above the intersection, indicating a high LOT.
The differences in where the shaft exits the body in relation to the pubic bone indicates the relative strength, length, and/or tightness of the ligament bundles.
For guys with a medium to high exit point, they may greatly benefit from hanging at the lower angles, especially BTC.
For guys with a low to very low exit point, they will benefit from fulcrum hanging, and hanging at the upper angles, from SO to OTS, both with and without a fulcrum.
Palpation test
Please refer to the drawing, finding the skin exit point, and the bottom of the pubic bone on the drawing.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1284307063
Once again, fairly simple once you are able to recognize what you are feeling. Palpation means to feel, probe, with the intention of gathering information.
Start at the skin exit point, and feel beneath the shaft. You should be able to feel, and possibly even pick up some or all of the lig bundles, through the skin, and between the shaft and the pubic bone. You may need to stretch out the shaft a bit to further expose the ligs in order to feel them.
Now, palpate the inner shaft 2, that portion of the shaft inside the skin. This will be done through the scrotal skin for most guys. On either side of the shaft, you should be able to feel down to the hard pubic bone on the back side of the shaft. Feeling along the shaft, and below the shaft, follow the pubic bone down, until you reach the very bottom of the pubic bone. Finding the very bottom is the hard part. As in the drawing, the PB is somewhat curved until it reaches the bottom, where there is somewhat of a sharp inward turn. At that point, or slightly past that point, you should only be able to palpate soft tissue.
Further, at that point, you may be able to palpate the prostate, which does not feel like penile shaft, but rather a bulb. When and if you probe the prostate, it will probably feel weird (the prostate itself, not the feeling in your fingers), even pleasurable. The feeling will be completely different from palpating shaft.
Once you have found the bottom of the pubic bone, where the shaft and bottom of the pubic bone intersect, keep a finger on that point. Then, you can actually measure the distance between that point, and the skin exit point. This measure will give you the absolute maximum gain you can expect from ligament stretch. In other words, if you were to maximally stretch the ligs, and expose all of the inner shaft 2, making it outer shaft, this is what you could gain, discounting pubic fat (pubic bone pressed measure).
Solely for scientific purposes, you can see the relationship described above in most porn stars. Looking at an erect porn star, you can see the shaft appear to almost exit just in front of the anus, then you may actually be able to see the prostate, then the scrotum, etc. This shows that most porn stars have maximally lengthened ligaments, or their ligament attachment points are such that the ligaments do not interfere with their erections.
Note: Some guys find performing this test in the erect state to be much easier. An erect test may be more accurate in giving the possible erect gains, given that erection pressure may effect the tension of the ligaments, and even pull the skin exit point down a bit.
After performing the LOT test, the mirror test, and the palpation test, you should have a good idea of the condition of your ligament anatomy. You should know the possible maximum potential for gains from lig stretch, whether you should concentrate on lig stretch or tunica stretch, and what hanging angles and/or techniques you should concentrate on.
Please ask questions if you do not understand.
Bigger"
More hanging related threads:
I have put together a number of related hanging threads to help guide you through the process of learning about hanging. Start with hanging 101 & Blink2000's Hanging Tips. Reading through those threads will help you understand how to hang and give you some basic theories to help you start figuring out which hanging angles to use, how to reach fatigue, etc.
The hanging theory threads are mostly geared towards helping you understand where your penis currently exits your pelvis, and how to fully maximize suspensory ligament stretch gains (BTC & SD). Once you've maximized your suspensory ligament gains you can move to higher angles such as SU & OTS. Eventually, once you feel ready, or once you start to plateau with standard hanging angles (SD, SU, OTS, BTC, SD, UTL, OTL, etc), you will be ready to start using fulcrums, such as the RSDT.
Each time you change angles, remember to do maintenance hanging at your previous angle until those respective previous target tissues are cemented & heal in a permanent, elongated state. Once you reach your ultimate length goals, be sure to do some maintenance hanging to maintain your hanging gains while work on your girth gains.
Practical Hanging Advice:
Hanging 101
Blink2000's Hanging Tips
Turkey-Neck Correcting Wrap (for SD & BTC Angles)
Hanging Theory:
Why Hanging Should be Done Before Advanced Girth Work: Length First, Girth Second
Maximizing Ligament Stretch Gains & LOT Theory
Choosing Your Angle of Attack, Target the Ligs first, then Tunica
Homemade Hanger Recipes
The Captn's Wench
Tom Hubbards AFB Hanger
Fulcrums
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...crum-rsdt.html
LOT Theory
Some will find the results of the LOT test inconclusive or difficult to determine. The "Mirror and Palpation Tests" will help you further confirm the angle at which your penis exits your pelvis.
9 O'Clock - Your penis points completely straight out
8 O'Clock - Your penis points slightly down
7 O'Clock - Your penis has a downward angle
6 O'Clock - Your penis points completely straight down
Mirror and Palpation Tests - Determine Your LOT Angle
Source: Bib's Mirror and Palpation tests to Determine LOT
Bib / Bigger:
These two tests go hand in hand with the LOT test in understanding the relationships between the ligs, inner shaft, and outer shaft for each individual. I define the inner shaft 1 as the shaft from the internal anchor point, the crux or bulbs, to the bottom of the pubic bone. I define inner shaft 2 as the shaft from the bottom of the pubic bone to the skin exit point. I define the outer shaft as the portion of penile shaft that can be seen outside of the body.
Much of the gains that may be had by hangers can be made from pulling the inner shaft II out and down, lengthening the ligaments to allow this, and making inner shaft II into outer shaft.
After months of hanging, it may be possible to realize maximum gains from this ligament stretch, which will have the affect of exposing all of the shaft, outer shaft all the way to the inner anchor points, to hanging stresses, at almost any angle. In other words, you may be able to stretch the ligaments in a dedicated fashion enough so that they do not interfere with stressing the entire length of the tunica. At that point in time, you can realize further gains by dedicated tunica stretch.
These tests are designed to help guys find out the condition of their ligs, and what angles and techniques should be most effective and efficient at any particular time.
The LOT test information may be found here:
LOT Theory
Mirror test
The bottom of the pubic bone is what needs to be determined first. Fairly simple: Stand nude in front of a mirror with feet fairly close together. In your mind, draw lines following the groinal grooves down to where they meet. The groinal grooves are where the legs attach to the body. For some guys with legs that are further apart, you may have to imagine a line across from the bottom of one groinal groove to the bottom of the other groinal groove. This line, or in the first example where the lines intersect, is about the bottom of the pubic bone.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1284307063
Next, look at where the penis shaft exits the skin. For some guys, it will be very low, below or even well below the intersection of the groinal lines, indicating a very low LOT. Most porn stars have this physiology. For other guys, it will be up a bit, at the intersection. For others, it may be well above the intersection, indicating a high LOT.
The differences in where the shaft exits the body in relation to the pubic bone indicates the relative strength, length, and/or tightness of the ligament bundles.
For guys with a medium to high exit point, they may greatly benefit from hanging at the lower angles, especially BTC.
For guys with a low to very low exit point, they will benefit from fulcrum hanging, and hanging at the upper angles, from SO to OTS, both with and without a fulcrum.
Palpation test
Please refer to the drawing, finding the skin exit point, and the bottom of the pubic bone on the drawing.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/attachm...1&d=1284307063
Once again, fairly simple once you are able to recognize what you are feeling. Palpation means to feel, probe, with the intention of gathering information.
Start at the skin exit point, and feel beneath the shaft. You should be able to feel, and possibly even pick up some or all of the lig bundles, through the skin, and between the shaft and the pubic bone. You may need to stretch out the shaft a bit to further expose the ligs in order to feel them.
Now, palpate the inner shaft 2, that portion of the shaft inside the skin. This will be done through the scrotal skin for most guys. On either side of the shaft, you should be able to feel down to the hard pubic bone on the back side of the shaft. Feeling along the shaft, and below the shaft, follow the pubic bone down, until you reach the very bottom of the pubic bone. Finding the very bottom is the hard part. As in the drawing, the PB is somewhat curved until it reaches the bottom, where there is somewhat of a sharp inward turn. At that point, or slightly past that point, you should only be able to palpate soft tissue.
Further, at that point, you may be able to palpate the prostate, which does not feel like penile shaft, but rather a bulb. When and if you probe the prostate, it will probably feel weird (the prostate itself, not the feeling in your fingers), even pleasurable. The feeling will be completely different from palpating shaft.
Once you have found the bottom of the pubic bone, where the shaft and bottom of the pubic bone intersect, keep a finger on that point. Then, you can actually measure the distance between that point, and the skin exit point. This measure will give you the absolute maximum gain you can expect from ligament stretch. In other words, if you were to maximally stretch the ligs, and expose all of the inner shaft 2, making it outer shaft, this is what you could gain, discounting pubic fat (pubic bone pressed measure).
Solely for scientific purposes, you can see the relationship described above in most porn stars. Looking at an erect porn star, you can see the shaft appear to almost exit just in front of the anus, then you may actually be able to see the prostate, then the scrotum, etc. This shows that most porn stars have maximally lengthened ligaments, or their ligament attachment points are such that the ligaments do not interfere with their erections.
Note: Some guys find performing this test in the erect state to be much easier. An erect test may be more accurate in giving the possible erect gains, given that erection pressure may effect the tension of the ligaments, and even pull the skin exit point down a bit.
After performing the LOT test, the mirror test, and the palpation test, you should have a good idea of the condition of your ligament anatomy. You should know the possible maximum potential for gains from lig stretch, whether you should concentrate on lig stretch or tunica stretch, and what hanging angles and/or techniques you should concentrate on.
Please ask questions if you do not understand.
Bigger"
More hanging related threads:
I have put together a number of related hanging threads to help guide you through the process of learning about hanging. Start with hanging 101 & Blink2000's Hanging Tips. Reading through those threads will help you understand how to hang and give you some basic theories to help you start figuring out which hanging angles to use, how to reach fatigue, etc.
The hanging theory threads are mostly geared towards helping you understand where your penis currently exits your pelvis, and how to fully maximize suspensory ligament stretch gains (BTC & SD). Once you've maximized your suspensory ligament gains you can move to higher angles such as SU & OTS. Eventually, once you feel ready, or once you start to plateau with standard hanging angles (SD, SU, OTS, BTC, SD, UTL, OTL, etc), you will be ready to start using fulcrums, such as the RSDT.
Each time you change angles, remember to do maintenance hanging at your previous angle until those respective previous target tissues are cemented & heal in a permanent, elongated state. Once you reach your ultimate length goals, be sure to do some maintenance hanging to maintain your hanging gains while work on your girth gains.
Practical Hanging Advice:
Hanging 101
Blink2000's Hanging Tips
Turkey-Neck Correcting Wrap (for SD & BTC Angles)
Hanging Theory:
Why Hanging Should be Done Before Advanced Girth Work: Length First, Girth Second
Maximizing Ligament Stretch Gains & LOT Theory
Choosing Your Angle of Attack, Target the Ligs first, then Tunica
Homemade Hanger Recipes
The Captn's Wench
Tom Hubbards AFB Hanger
Fulcrums
https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...crum-rsdt.html
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