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  1. 10-15-2010 #1
    Iguana
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    Yes, It is important that you cool down and that you cool down in an extended state. This encourages the tissue fibers to remain that way.

    Connective tissue (mainly collagen) becomes gel-like at 140 degrees. So, heat softens the tissue and changes it to more of a "liquid", or pliable state. It only makes sense that to keep it that way, you would want to cool it in the new extended state to return it back to a more solid material. Like heating a piece of plastic, remolding it to a new shape, and then letting it cool.

    Notice what this article says
    Lehman and associates (1970) studied the effects of heat and stretching on rat tail tendons.6 The results indicated that heating alone produced no significant elongation and that stretching alone produced no residual elongation. Significant elongation occurred if heat and stretch were combined. A greater increase in length was maintained if the stretch was held during the period of cooling since “reorganization of the tissues is thought to occur during the cooling period.”6 Overall, the most effective method of producing a plastic deformation of connective tissue was to apply a sustained stretch during the application of heat and to maintain the stretch during the period of cooling. (Italics and bolding mine)
    For the full article: http://www.activebodyclinic.com/core_Physio_heat.html


    Other studies dealt with the subsequent elasticity of the connective tissue, i.e., ligaments and tendons, after the application of ice. Doctor Mennell5 felt that this was due to the decreased sensation, which enabled the patient to stretch out muscle spasm. Others felt that stretching was best achieved in the "cooling stage" after "heating" by use of hot packs, massage, or ultrasound. Therefore, for best results, stretching of the part should be maintained while cooling the tendon. This was found to produce a longer-lasting increase in length than those treatments in which the stretch was stopped after heat was applied.3
    http://www.sigafoospt.com/Education/Cold%20Therapy.htm

    I think the goal here is to "solidify" the collagen. The tunica is about 50% collagen. Heating collagen puts it in a more pliable soft state which is easier to deform. So the process is too elevate the penis core temp as much as possible without burning, stretch, and then hold the stretch and cool back down. Colder should be better in that the colder the collagen is, the less molecular activity, and the less likely it is to return to the previous resting state. That is why ice and cold packs are recommended. The ice and cool packs help accelerate the process. Do not freeze your penis. If find about 2-3 minutes is sufficent; maximum of 5. Anything longer and I start to turtle.

    I find when I cool down after stretching my flaccid hangs fuller and longer for greater periods of time.
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  2. 10-15-2010 #2
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    I'm gonna give that a try tomorrow.
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    i tried both warm down and cool down and Cool down works better for me
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    Interesting :>
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    I'll just post how much I've gained in total since Sept 28 2010 :P. Newb PEer. Gained so far: Erection quality and stamina. measuring: once per month.
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    Do we know the exact max temperature that we can heat the unit up without burning it?
    Maybe... there is a electronic wrap available somewhere.. to buy :O
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    I'll just post how much I've gained in total since Sept 28 2010 :P. Newb PEer. Gained so far: Erection quality and stamina. measuring: once per month.
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    There are good arguments on both sides (cool down vs warm down). Personally, I use a warm down (mostly to increase blood flow and prevent turtling).

    I only use cooldowns if I am injured or close, and I never ice for more than 2 minutes, I don't allow the cooldown to make me turtle. I don't use real ice either; I use a bag of frozen peas.
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    i tried this today after some hanging sets..
    i putted on my ADS device, and then iced my penis for 10mins,
    and then kept the ads device on for a hour..
    it did feel better actually! but to soon to say anything..

    but im gonna give it at real shot, using this above method for some weeks ..

    i'll be back
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    Sounds good, I'm gonna try this today. Thanks!
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    Very interesting guys. Those of you that are putting this to the test, please keep posting your results. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pe4life2 View Post
    Sounds good, I'm gonna try this today. Thanks!
    How are you getting your measurement down to a thousandth of an inch? o_o
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    I'll just post how much I've gained in total since Sept 28 2010 :P. Newb PEer. Gained so far: Erection quality and stamina. measuring: once per month.
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