Why does PEgym advice not to warm down??

[theawakener7]

When u mean warm down do u mean a towel on your member

[DemOne]

Rice sock, warm towel, heating pad, hot shower or bath, etc. Same concept to warming up.

[mystic wolf]

I can't speak for anyone else, and I can't say for certain based on just two months. However i noticed that my Erect Girth Grew faster and more steadily when I did CoolDowns, than without them.

the Girth Gains were phenomenal on the CoolDowns, and they were about 25% slower without cooldowns.

did you write well? cooldowns?? not warm down?? so cool water could be good for girth? I have a theory about this : maybe the waste matters inside the penis after a workout stay trapped into it when cool temperature is applied so there's no way to evacuate these substances and they make the penis to enlarge over time...

[blulite]

i dont tend to warm down at all really, i warm up with my tigerbalm and 100 jelques, do my hanging, applying more balm if needed to increse heat. also more light jelques and stretches between sets. once i finish my last set i do another 100 light jelques or some edging...then stop... im not sure if that really counts as a cool down but hey..

[User235]

Read these excerpts closely...

This is from my original thread on cooling....


Notice what this article says

Lehman and associates (1970) studied the effects of heat and stretching on rat tail tendons.6 The results indicated that heating alone produced no significant elongation and that stretching alone produced no residual elongation. Significant elongation occurred if heat and stretch were combined. A greater increase in length was maintained if the stretch was held during the period of cooling since “reorganization of the tissues is thought to occur during the cooling period.”6 Overall, the most effective method of producing a plastic deformation of connective tissue was to apply a sustained stretch during the application of heat and to maintain the stretch during the period of cooling. (Italics and bolding mine)

For the full article: http://www.activebodyclinic.com/core_Physio_heat.html



Quote:
Other studies dealt with the subsequent elasticity of the connective tissue, i.e., ligaments and tendons, after the application of ice. Doctor Mennell5 felt that this was due to the decreased sensation, which enabled the patient to stretch out muscle spasm. Others felt that stretching was best achieved in the "cooling stage" after "heating" by use of hot packs, massage, or ultrasound. Therefore, for best results, stretching of the part should be maintained while cooling the tendon. This was found to produce a longer-lasting increase in length than those treatments in which the stretch was stopped after heat was applied.3
http://www.sigafoospt.com/Education/Cold%20Therapy.htm

The second study, done on humans, mirrors the results done on animal connective tissue. I think this supports the conclusion that there is no reason to believe that human collagen behaves significantly different that animal collagen.

I personally find I hang longer (both in length and duration) and fuller after cooling as opposed to warming down.

Actually, after reading these articles, I'm thinking that cooling down rather then heat may be something useful to try. I was under the impression (as many are) that heat after PE is the only way to go. But something about the first study caught my eye. It was done on rat tails, which although they are composed of tendon and not ligament, they are probably similar in reaction to penile ligaments in that they are under low strain during the vast majority of the time. It is also very rare to find research into these elements: strain, heat and permanent elongation. This is not a useful study for most researchers but is for any PEer.

I'm wondering what kind of cooling-down to experiment with. Would a sudden immersion in cool (or even cold) water work? I think I'm going to give this a try starting on my next session tomorrow, do it for about 3 months, and see what happens.

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