Grower VS Shower

[donjelqer76]

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Originally Posted by donjelqer76 https://www.pegym.com/forums/images/...s/viewpost.gif
I'm extremely fit musically

Guitar? piano? lol

only kidding

Haha, that was actually pretty funny. I really hate the autocorrect on my phone!
Corrected the spelling in the post!

[The Kidd]

Okay so i found something rather interesting over at Thunder's Place that a few of the group over there may have actually covered completely! The possible difference they said between showrs and grower is the dominant cell count so to speak. basically showers have more collagen and growers more elastin. have not worries ill post a link to this page soon as i would hate to discredit a valued member EVER!

[Padawan787]

How can they prove who has more collagen or elastin without detailed medical examinations? I doubt it is something you can do in your living room lol

[The Kidd]

well im looking for the link now. you see its something that is found out by indirect means lol. basically the look of the penis. They detail it greatly in this thread. if i get enough hits i may just compile all of the thread into a downloadable file or just tranfer it over with user names included. not sure yet but heres the link:

http://www.*************.org/forum/s...d.php?t=104832

[The Kidd]

man there is a suprisingly SMALL amount of information on the web about actual Penile science SERIOUSLY! most of the links that show up are either from PE websites such as matters of size, Thunder's Place and PEgym. Most of the medical journals deal in erectile dysfunction but are shotty with the actual collagenous role in the penis...Please this is something that if we can really figure out could be a great help to every man out there. im asking everyone who reads this to please help shed light on the subject by posting links so we the people can hash out the fact from fiction and discover genuine answers. thank you ahead of time. I will give what rep that i can to any and all who provide info and not to mention they will have the thanks of the thousands of men who are given hope by the answers we find!

[TurtleProblems]

'WHAT is the difference between growers and showers?? many say that it is genetics'


They're probably right. Genes/hormones. And whos to say that a shower can't grow even larger? Then there is the tunica and different layers of it which is a factor. All of the penises that are 5 inches or longer flaccid that grow past 7 and 8 inches could be considered both shower and grower.

[User235]

man there is a suprisingly SMALL amount of information on the web about actual Penile science SERIOUSLY! most of the links that show up are either from PE websites such as matters of size, Thunder's Place and PEgym. Most of the medical journals deal in erectile dysfunction but are shotty with the actual collagenous role in the penis...Please this is something that if we can really figure out could be a great help to every man out there. im asking everyone who reads this to please help shed light on the subject by posting links so we the people can hash out the fact from fiction and discover genuine answers. thank you ahead of time. I will give what rep that i can to any and all who provide info and not to mention they will have the thanks of the thousands of men who are given hope by the answers we find!

There are almost no serious studies out there (or at least any direct, credible studies). My belief on this is that this is due to funding. Most research is done via grants (the N.I.H., various Universities, etc). And as a researcher's name reputation is critical in order to receive future grants and funding, it's important to scientists to keep their reputations as clean as possible. That said, you will be hard pressed finding any scientist willing to tarnish their name by doing a study on penile enlargement. It simply is NOT going to happen (can you imagine, in the current political debate system in American, the NIH funding a study on how to increase dick length? LOL! I can just see the story now on CNN or FoxNews!).

So you're not going to see studies done on this in the United States anytime in the near future.

And private industry doesn't want to fund research, because the legal risks associated with messing with men's penises is simply too high and the ROI too uncertain.

The best resources to search for on the net are studies done on ligament and other connective tissues (ground substance, elastin, collagen, fibrocytes and fibroblasts, tendons, fascia, etc). Usually these are under the field sports medicine (especially look at research done on ACL, MCL and other ligaments). Then it's a matter of trying to extrapolate those results to what we do here - definitely NOT a precise science! So there's a great deal of trial-and-error learning. Worse, it seems to be a field where individual responses to various methods produces wildly different results. What might work for you may have no effect on me, etc.

The field has a long ways to go. But at least it's advanced enough to get the job done if you're very dedicated.


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[going411by7]

Most guys have enough sense not to worry about getting a larger cock when they realize that their women don't give a shit except for a very few size queens--so long as they're good lovers. They have better things to do. My commitment to p.e. has grown out of a real issue for me at my age.

[The Kidd]

Most guys have enough sense not to worry about getting a larger cock when they realize that their women don't give a shit except for a very few size queens--so long as they're good lovers. They have better things to do. My commitment to p.e. has grown out of a real issue for me at my age.

Yes most guys don't worry about it....i think thats a bit of a bad thing at times. My fascination for PE grew out of a horrible insecurity that happened with a previous ex(Size queen you were referring too lol), and as i learned more and i realised it can actually be CHANGED and improved and i had some success it became an obsession no different than my desire for an elite level of fitness and physical prowess. Im very much like a spear if that gives any insight about me. im highly focused, and straight forward. whatever i pursue i seek insatiably until i know just about all there is to know about a subject and lose sight of all else. it is my ultimate strength and weakness.

having said that im going on another info search tonight!!

[actionbuddy]

I started a PE week ago and I have gained about an inch, possibly more, in flaccid length.

You gained an inch in one week of PE? Why do I find this hard to believe? Doesn't flaccid length have as much to do with body temperature at the time, as well as genetics? Just asking.