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  1. 01-07-2012 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by openmatrix View Post
    ...to undermine non-pill alternatives and fearmongering.
    There you go
    Last edited by Big Al; 01-07-2012 at 01:26 PM.
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  2. 01-07-2012 #22
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    What's great is when he says, "it's all baloney until we get a study that proves it." No. That is just a logic fail. It either works or does not work, irrespective of whatever illumination a study provides. These docs would love to have you believe that this is not the case, however. It gives them some semblance of power when you rely on what they tell you. The FDA is super fucked up in this respect - they will refuse to recognize certain remedies through an objective lens in favor of what these rigged "studies" show.

    I am my own case study, anyway. I know my penis is larger.
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  3. 01-07-2012 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEskeptic View Post
    What's great is when he says, "it's all baloney until we get a study that proves it." No. That is just a logic fail. It either works or does not work, irrespective of whatever illumination a study provides. These docs would love to have you believe that this is not the case, however. It gives them some semblance of power when you rely on what they tell you. The FDA is super fucked up in this respect - they will refuse to recognize certain remedies through an objective lens in favor of what these rigged "studies" show.

    I am my own case study, anyway. I know my penis is larger.
    You know Skeptic you're pretty smart; maybe you should be a lawyer when you grow up or something along those lines!!!!
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  4. 01-08-2012 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by darinsixpack View Post
    I'm almost 1 inch bigger then I was 10 months ago when I started this journey. And I assure you it's not due to swelling, or bleeding. My dick is bigger!!!! I've read all those articles. I don't see their point. Conduct a study or shut the fuck up, cause it works. I was the biggest skeptic when I first started. Not any more...
    Motivating words and post... I'm only a month into my PE life change. Although I haven't seen any gains yet, It motivates me to hear that it does work... I to have started out as a huge skeptic, I'm looking forward to when my own success will put that skeptism to rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICKHEEZE View Post
    Motivating words and post... I'm only a month into my PE life change. Although I haven't seen any gains yet, It motivates me to hear that it does work... I to have started out as a huge skeptic, I'm looking forward to when my own success will put that skeptism to rest.
    Rickheeze, look at my stats we started at the same size and 20 months later I am 8.4" x 6.4". I too started with an 8x6 goal BUT PE is addicting when the results are coming and you get positive feedback in the bedroom...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8 isn't enough View Post
    No need to explain.. I don't really care if you believe in it or not.. They are flat wrong about tension not having an influence on smooth muscle cells.. I've studied this in and out for a very long time.. Now it's time for you to study like I did.. or quit, I don't really care..

    Here is the only thing I'll show you:
    Mechanical stretch stimulates growth of vascular smooth muscle cells via epidermal growth factor receptor: Mechanical stretch stimulates growth of vascular smooth muscle cells via epidermal growth factor receptor

    Arch Surg -- Abstract: Enhanced Collagen Production by Smooth Muscle Cells During Repetitive Mechanical Stretching, October 1988, Sumpio et al. 123 (10): 1233

    Enhanced Collagen Production by Smooth Muscle Cells During Repetitive Mechanical Stretching
    HAHA... I was going to post that link!! I guess great minds do think alike
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    The rebuttal is truly "Have you tried?" If they have not tried and are just going by what they "know" they don't truly know.


    Edit: This is coming from a skeptic beyond all skeptics lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEskeptic View Post
    What's great is when he says, "it's all baloney until we get a study that proves it." No. That is just a logic fail. It either works or does not work, irrespective of whatever illumination a study provides. These docs would love to have you believe that this is not the case, however. It gives them some semblance of power when you rely on what they tell you. The FDA is super fucked up in this respect - they will refuse to recognize certain remedies through an objective lens in favor of what these rigged "studies" show.

    I am my own case study, anyway. I know my penis is larger.

    Between this point and your progress thread I think it's safe to say you believe.. Hmmm maybe it's time for a name change, maybe PEbeliever?? LOL.. Sry man couldn't resist
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalreid View Post
    Between this point and your progress thread I think it's safe to say you believe.. Hmmm maybe it's time for a name change, maybe PEbeliever?? LOL.. Sry man couldn't resist
    Yes, maybe I do need a name change...no idea what to make it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEskeptic View Post
    Yes, maybe I do need a name change...no idea what to make it though.
    Ask the Mods, I am sure they will change it when you pick a new name that you come up with.
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