Looking for a rebuttal to this Argument that PE doesn't work

[malehanger]

"doesn't work"

Oh no!!! My ruler must have shrunk!!!

I'm with this guy

[Edge of Glory]

I got a rebuttal for you: my penis tells WebMD to f itself because he grew 0.7 inches in 2 months...

There are skeptics and doubters in every aspect of life. People like this are what caused me to think I was 'stuck with what I had' for most of my life. These doctors are either ignorant skeptics or very careful to protect their industry. Urologists are one of the foremost players in consultation and performance of penis surgeries. As someone who will be working in the health care field, I have met plenty of doctors, dentists, pharmacists, nurses, optometrists, etc. Please don't blindly trust these people. They are educated in their area of expertise, but that does not mean they are all-knowing. Too many MD's think the title gives them the right to spew BS with no backing. One of my relatives almost lost his son because of a poor diagnosis by a doctor. If an intern didn't force the doctor to re-look, it may have been fatal.

[Jackxxx]

It depends how you look at it. As I have explained before, in reality you are not growing new penis. You are just stretching the tissues, and they will stay stretched for a certain period of time if you stop exercising. It works in the same way as skeletal muscle does. If you go to the gym, your muscles will grow, but if you stop working out, your muscles will shrink. So you are not building new muscle. You are just expanding the fibers already existing in your body. Same with the penis.

[beachbay]

Personally pe doesn't work for me steady

Tried it all for 2 plus years

Tried everything , and I mean everything

Either I'm in a battle with my penis shrinking or it just isn't growing

Hense why I no longer go on this site anymore, just full of useless topics. Erection quality, viagra, l arginine ect

I'm only on chempe site as it's a real personal study on real substances to cause growth

[malehanger]

Personally pe doesn't work for me steady

Tried it all for 2 plus years

Tried everything , and I mean everything

Either I'm in a battle with my penis shrinking or it just isn't growing

Hense why I no longer go on this site anymore, just full of useless topics. Erection quality, viagra, l arginine ect

I'm only on chempe site as it's a real personal study on real substances to cause growth

So, then what was the point of this post? Sigh. I honestly do not believe you have tried "everything" and with enough of a level of consistency. You would have had results.

[BTBrian]

I'm only on chempe site as it's a real personal study on real substances to cause growth

This site is full of real personal studies on real activities to cause growth.

[Toadstool]

I've grown 0.5" in about a year.
And that's after me doing some seriously stupid starter shit. Like, jelqing it long and hard without any sort of conditioning. My first jelq session lasted over an hour.
I did that for about two months before I looked around the forum and saw the JP90. Then I did that and modified it a bit, hoping I could gain 3" in 3 weeks.
I'm surprised I didn't hurt myself.

It wasn't until month 3 or 4 that I really took it seriously. now I'm with Big Al and have a healthy, longer dong.
My results are proof for me.

[openmatrix]

Like I've said multiple times in this thread, I do believe in the theory, I just believe in injections of healthy dose of questioning and skepticism once in a while and I'm glad this thread has grown in the ways that it has.

Individual responses below.

I got a rebuttal for you: my penis tells WebMD to f itself because he grew 0.7 inches in 2 months...

There are skeptics and doubters in every aspect of life. People like this are what caused me to think I was 'stuck with what I had' for most of my life. These doctors are either ignorant skeptics or very careful to protect their industry. Urologists are one of the foremost players in consultation and performance of penis surgeries. As someone who will be working in the health care field, I have met plenty of doctors, dentists, pharmacists, nurses, optometrists, etc. Please don't blindly trust these people. They are educated in their area of expertise, but that does not mean they are all-knowing. Too many MD's think the title gives them the right to spew BS with no backing. One of my relatives almost lost his son because of a poor diagnosis by a doctor. If an intern didn't force the doctor to re-look, it may have been fatal.

I mean, that's an anecdotal and not scientific rebuttal. Scientifically, you could be making that all up and I couldn't prove you wrong. I could say something like "PE made my penis shrink" and given your argument, you'd have to believe me just as well. Of course, that's silly but still. There are many factors that could go into your penis growing, and it could have been normal hormonal and biological growth that would have happened with or without your interference. This is especially relevant as there are literally maybe 1 or 2 sets of pictures on this entire site documenting the growth. With such a large number of followers, it'd make sense if at least 3 people per year set out to photo record their PE journey - Just something to chew on for a bit! Not attacking you or PE at all.

It depends how you look at it. As I have explained before, in reality you are not growing new penis. You are just stretching the tissues, and they will stay stretched for a certain period of time if you stop exercising. It works in the same way as skeletal muscle does. If you go to the gym, your muscles will grow, but if you stop working out, your muscles will shrink. So you are not building new muscle. You are just expanding the fibers already existing in your body. Same with the penis.

This however, is not quite accurate. Smooth muscle does not atrophy at nearly the same rate as skeletal muscle, the level of angioplasy is different as is the nutrition sources and the cellular make up. Experts on this site will tell you that your penis is totally unlike skeletal muscle. The science behind PE is not totally mechanical stress but also includes pushing beyond capacity limits. You are certainly not expanding fibers already within your penis they are either growing or they are not. Muscles don't really permanently stretch, they grow. Ligaments and tendons stretch to a certain permanent degree.

Personally pe doesn't work for me steady

Tried it all for 2 plus years

Tried everything , and I mean everything

Either I'm in a battle with my penis shrinking or it just isn't growing

Hense why I no longer go on this site anymore, just full of useless topics. Erection quality, viagra, l arginine ect

I'm only on chempe site as it's a real personal study on real substances to cause growth

Interesting. It'd be nice to see your routine so others could scrutinize and give opinions.

So, then what was the point of this post? Sigh. I honestly do not believe you have tried "everything" and with enough of a level of consistency. You would have had results.

Perhaps. We'd need to see his routine, don't count him out quite yet.

This site is full of real personal studies on real activities to cause growth.

Real personal studies without any corroborating evidence, unlikely that only 1 person (that german guy) had the sense of mind to document his growth.

I've grown 0.5" in about a year.
And that's after me doing some seriously stupid starter shit. Like, jelqing it long and hard without any sort of conditioning. My first jelq session lasted over an hour.
I did that for about two months before I looked around the forum and saw the JP90. Then I did that and modified it a bit, hoping I could gain 3" in 3 weeks.
I'm surprised I didn't hurt myself.

It wasn't until month 3 or 4 that I really took it seriously. now I'm with Big Al and have a healthy, longer dong.
My results are proof for me.

I'm glad it worked out!

Anyway, all I'm saying is, your arguments become stronger as they're constantly challenged and investigated, don't be hostile towards questions but question yourself and if it works, then great, but it's fun to improve your arguments.

[eow.]

Don't try and make a rebuttal. Just admit that you are wrong and that PE doesn't work. That way we can keep it all to ourselves

[BTBrian]

I mean, that's an anecdotal and not scientific rebuttal. Scientifically, you could be making that all up and I couldn't prove you wrong. I could say something like "PE made my penis shrink" and given your argument, you'd have to believe me just as well. Of course, that's silly but still. There are many factors that could go into your penis growing, and it could have been normal hormonal and biological growth that would have happened with or without your interference. This is especially relevant as there are literally maybe 1 or 2 sets of pictures on this entire site documenting the growth. With such a large number of followers, it'd make sense if at least 3 people per year set out to photo record their PE journey - Just something to chew on for a bit! Not attacking you or PE at all.

Real personal studies without any corroborating evidence, unlikely that only 1 person (that german guy) had the sense of mind to document his growth.

There is nothing at this point to prove or disprove PE scientifically. Actually there is nothing to prove or disprove ANYTHING in the world. All we can do is do studies and make conjectures based on the results that we see. The only kinds of studies we have at this point are personal studies done by ourselves, there is not and likely will not ever be an extensive scientific study on PE so if you're trying to find proof it works you're not going to find it.

I'm not sure what you're saying about there not being any people detailing their growth. There a hundreds and hundreds of progress logs that go into a LOT of detail about their routines and all of their physiological changes from PE. A lot of them have pictures but not nearly all of them because, lets be honest, why would someone post pictures of their dick on the internet for basically no point? Seems a little risky to me, I'd never post nudity on the internet. PE basically is all about faith: you can believe the people on here who say it works, or you can not believe the people on here who say it works. You're not ever going to find proof because it doesn't exist (except for the individual proof you can get by doing PE yourself)