Intense stretching = Restricting lenght gains,Adding Girth gains

[DryJelq]

Do you think damage could be done if you do this soft stretch and go right into an intense stretch once it's stretched out all loose?

I think this depends greatly on how well conditioned you are. Generally speaking though, this exercise doesn't work if you go into an intense stretch. Your body responds to the tension and pulls back. I've tried pulling harder at my maximum stretched length, but usually I can feel myself tense up again and I don't get much more of a stretch. If I keep pulling more, it just starts to hurt in one spot, wherever my penis is the weakest.

I'd recommend not pulling really intensely when you get fully stretched. My instinct tells me that being able to stay relaxed so you can stretch further is safer and probably more beneficial than pulling harder so you can stretch further.

Another thing I think is worth mentioning. If I do a session for too long, I find that I have trouble relaxing and it starts to feel uncomfortable. I think that your body is capable of relaxing more and stretching further when it is healthy.

[going411by7]

Yeah, German Stallion came to me to post his theory on MOS, so after attempting it for several sessions, and feedback from him, I posted it, calling it, "German Stallion's Paradoxical Pullout." Although, I'm not sure if this exercise by itself leads to greater BPEL's. German Stallion had great success with this "gentle stretch," growing a longer flaccid cock. (He also has his own version of Kingpole's fowfers. I believe G.S. rides horseback. That has to be a great position for doing the "Behind the Cheeks" stretch--just stick your dick between your ass cheeks, or in the crack of your thigh, and hop on ).

I don't think this "gentle stretch" interferes with any other kind of stretching exercise and it is a great motivator for me. Like Jon Pop, it worked great once for me, and I haven't equaled that length of a pull-out since (several inches above the belly button). Thanks for reminding me, guys. I'll have to try it again. I know it requires great concentration and relaxation. Otherwise your dick will just "tug back," as German Stallion terms it.

I've achieved the same results with an intense stretching routine--so both work. It just depends on your approach at the time.

[JonPop]

I have tried this a few more times, but haven't been able to replicate that first time.
It's tricky. Once you reach that totally relaxed stretch the first time, then you know what to expect and that makes it hard to not focus on the stretch and it wants to tug back.

[ReetB]

Hi C.Phantasy,

I think your theory is a good one but I'm not sure if I agree that intense stretching limits length gains.

I'm about to start hanging and after speaking with a very well known hanger in the PE game, it's apparent that with hanging (where you are performing a pretty intense stretch), you are trying to stretch and deform the tough collagenous tissues of the penis. These are the longitudinal and lateral fibers of the tunica and the various ligament structures. Therefore the aim of hanging is to achieve controlled damage of these tough tissues and this is where gains can be made.

I think where your theory does work is that if you perform these intense stretches (or hangs) and then take a few days off, the penis tissues will heal in a stronger state which is much like the area of a bone break.

I believe that with intense stretching and hanging, the people who get the best gains are the ones that hang or stretch on a daily basis. Tissues that fully heal are stronger than before, which makes them even tougher to break down. Therefore irregular stretching and hanging can actually hinder gains. I believe that it is actually better to continue deforming these tough tissues, while they are still weak before they have a chance to lay down new collagenous tissue.

Well, this is just my theory, but I think it makes sense

[pe_ZEN]

I believe that with intense stretching and hanging, the people who get the best gains are the ones that hang or stretch on a daily basis. Tissues that fully heal are stronger than before, which makes them even tougher to break down. Therefore irregular stretching and hanging can actually hinder gains. I believe that it is actually better to continue deforming these tough tissues, while they are still weak before they have a chance to lay down new collagenous tissue.

Well, this is just my theory, but I think it makes sense

Well said Reetb! I agree with this statement, that daily hanging may be more beneficial than any other stretch exercize if done properly. People like Bib are a testament to that - he recommends minimum 4hrs per week hang time! He hanged for 2 sessions per day, for at least an hour a day... and made somewhere around +3" BPEL. His advice was, to "ride the feeling of fatigue" such that you should feel slightly sore after workouts. Seems like for plastic deformation as you described above, longer sets and more frequent hanging workouts is the answer for me

[mrcarrick]

Interesting. I usually have a routine that is one day girth and one day length. I am currently trying to do not so intense stretching in my stretch routine 5 days a week to see if my length will gain. Before I was targetting both and seemed to gaining girth but had stopped a bit on length.

I am going to do length only based on the thoughts in this thread for a month and see what gains I get at the end by way of BPEL. Certainly my flaccid has been longer since doing more length without the normal high intensity I use.

Anyone tried the method I am about to apply with any results?

[JohnSmith011]

i Think i could agree with this theory through my trial and error experiances. When i started p.e. i started with very light stretches and within two week i added liek 1/4'' to my length. My gains stopped there for the next month and a half. During that next period i was using high intesity stretches and increasingly high rep jelqs during this period i added 1/2'' to my girth. Then during the 3rd month i started using less intense stretches again and i gained 3/16'' of length and no girth. So according to my gains this theory fits perfectly

[Kojack]

Other than my first easy gains that came with lig pops, I have not been able to gain. I have stretched forcefully too. I can remember using 95% of my strength on some stretches, just wishing I could get more lig pops again. I didn't get any gains, but I didn't stick with it for longer than 2 weeks either.

I'm trying to learn how to relax into the stretch, and stretch lighlty, but sufficiently.

I agree with the idea that heavy forces make the connective tissue stronger. That may be why those extreme act guys can pull a truck with their penis, but they haven't lengthened them.

[pe_ZEN]

lig pops? What is this? doesn't sound safe

[Kojack]

Some guys feel and hear a subtle or weak pop in their suspensory ligs at the base of the penis during the first couple of weeks of manual stretching. It does not happen to everyone. It happened to me during two or more PE sessions when I was a total newbie.