Is it possible not all women want a large penis?

[donjelqer76]

Variety is the spice of life. We all have our preferences when it comes to body type, facial features, personality and even sexual traits. Some preferences may be for reasons like physical compatibility (as pointed out above), some preferences may be rooted from an individuals morals and upbringing, and some preferences are more irrational such as those induced by media, porn and what is heard from peers.

All I know, is that if everyone was built exactly the same and everyone had the same preferences the world would be a very boring place. It's sad how much people worry about things like this and let it hold them back in life

[NauseousOuroboros]

Main point from all of this; as long as it works genitalia is not important. It is our misguided brains, it studies that say ancients figured our that certain people match up with other people based on genitalia size and properties, and those really stupid ones that get drunk young girls to say dick size is important; that's what messes up our brain. Personally rum does it for me and not all that other stupid stuff.

No, that is not the main point of this and certainly not the main point of this site. The entire goal of this site calls your point into question as well as what these cultures believed about sexual compatibility, even though the two perspectives are themselves opposing, both oppose your notion that genitalia which merely function is the only important factor in sexual compatibility. It simply is not so.

It is not just drunk young girls saying dick size is important. It is many kinds of women who, when pressed will admit that it is important. Not necessarily will they say bigger is better, but they will say the size of it in relation to what feels comfortable to them is absolutely important to good sex. Men will say the same about vagina sizes. One of my past exes had a vagina that I could not fit, it was too shallow and too wide. I was not only too long for her, I wasn't thick enough. Was that her or my problem? My answer is neither; we were just simply not a good fit. That is what these ancient concepts are about. Finding out who is a good fit for who, sexually, because it is important when you are trying to have sex. That is what these beliefs and this site is about. Finding ways to have good and better sex. Just getting the genitalia working is only the first step.

I am not even sure if these beliefs are valid; I am intrigued by the possibility and intend to study it. There is absolutely no harm in that and it certainly doesn't make me stupid for doing so.

Also alcohol impairs the body's ability to maintain an erection.

[NauseousOuroboros]

Variety is the spice of life. We all have our preferences when it comes to body type, facial features, personality and even sexual traits. Some preferences may be for reasons like physical compatibility (as pointed out above), some preferences may be rooted from an individuals morals and upbringing, and some preferences are more irrational such as those induced by media, porn and what is heard from peers.

All I know, is that if everyone was built exactly the same and everyone had the same preferences the world would be a very boring place. It's sad how much people worry about things like this and let it hold them back in life

It is wonderful that we aren't all the same physically. The psychology behind sexual preference is very fascinating and I am excited to see, if some of these concepts have validity, how much modern preferences seem dictated by real sexual compatibility or instead by a pervasive warping of people's attitudes toward sexual compatibility.

[DaddyDick]

Wife says that the answer is "Yes"

[bigbookofpenis]

i think most women want a perfect penis to FILL (actually seal tight) their vagina... a close fit... it doesnt mean they want the biggest cock in town so they can get a STRETCH-OUT... the one that FILLS them width and length just right as they are (without excessive stretching or shrinking necessary) is the perfect dick... sure vagina can accomodate any dick but in ideal case the vagina SHOULDNT HAVE TO shrink too much to hug a small penis and it SHOULDNT HAVE TO stretch like jojo to accomodate a telegraph pole... this doesnt really say in cm how long it should be because there is no precise measurement how long and wide are girls vaginas... but i guess mother nature has some way of estimating some population averages... so if average dick size is 13-16 cm its quite possible that mother nature made it so that average comfortable vagina stretch when aroused is around 13-16 cm in general woman population... so if you have a bit more, like 17cm you will FILL her just perfectlly plus that little bit extra 1 cm for extra close fit...

ALSO most women admit that girth is more important than length which makes sense since you want to fill the vagina as full as possible to have closest contact with vaginal walls which have the nerves in them that transmit stimulation to brain... there is no price for reaching to her tonsils with your dick if it doesnt press wide enough into the surrounding enervated vaginal walls...

so DOES SIZE MATTER ? ABSOLUTELLY !!! but its about perfect and comfortable fit plus a little extra without extensive labour and feeling like being ripped open inside out...

according to some studies as much as 70% of women cant reach orgasm without clitoris stimulation, so it means even if you would fuck them with baseball bat they wouldnt be able to climax unless you directly touch or lick their clitoris head simultaneously with penetration... IF this is true it would mean that penis size doesnt really have anything to do with ability to experience sexual climax in women because clitoris head is completely out of the way of penis movement inside vagina and also its enervated by different nerves (specifically DORSAL NERVE OF CLITORIS)... so even if you pentrate them for hours and they sure like it only the guy who brings them to THE GRAND FINALE is the hero and that seems to be dependant on totally different genital regions than inside her vagina for majority of women...

there is a whole different game about PSYCHOLOGICAL FACTORS of having a man with big dick... the WOW FACTOR... the GOSSIP GIRL factor... the PRIDE factor... knowing you have an superman dick guy can make all the difference IN YOUR HEAD and brain is the biggest sexual organ in humans... without your brain you dont get errection and you dont cum... simple as that... human dick and vagina are just touch sensors that send signals to your brain where they get mixed with all other ingredients that make up good sex and your brain is the conductor of the orchestra of arousal and climax...

i read some study why people who won lottery are not happier after 1 year than they were before winning... the study claimed money can make one happy only up to the level where they fill your everyday needs... above this amount they become irelevant and any MORE money will not make you more happy... people with enough money to fill their everyday needs start to put more value on other things than money - friends, health, meaningfull life, legacy, kids, spouses, fulfilling job or hobbies, etc. i think this applies to dick size - there is a certain level (individual with every women) where they need dick size to make them feel filled-up just right (to paraphrase "size to meet their everyday need") and more dick above this level is irrelevant... they start to focus on other things than dick size - voice, eye contact, passionate touch, kissing, clitoris head stimulation, emotions (domination, alpha assertivity, romance, secret fantasies), smells...

[MrsLooking4more]

Amen! I could not have said it better myself. Size does matter but it is relative. What I enjoy might not be what another woman does, there is a fit for every taste. We all just have to find ours.

[NauseousOuroboros]

Okay so I have been searching for more materials on this; it seems most of the modern works on this come from Mantak Chia, who has done a number of works on Taoist focused sexual alchemy. I still have to find where he found his extensive knowledge. I have a friend who studies Eastern culture and works as a doctor of traditional Chinese medicine who may know more.

Anyway this is what I've found from Chia's works so far, taken from his book Sexual Reflexology (an excellent book by the way, he has advanced jelqing techniques the Chinese discovered thousands of years ago in there and everything);

So in summary these are the different facial features that indicated penis size in a man. Note that while one of these may be present, if the others are not this does not make the penis likely to be big. The size is rather a combination of all these indications.

1. If his lips are wide and thick, it is an indication of a bigger penis.
2. A thick, flat nose indicates a thick penis shaft.
3. A long nose indicates a long penis.
4. Deep set eyes with skinny eyelids indicate a long penis.
5. A full, long eyebrow indicates a strong, long penis.
6. If the area of the ear's conch, referred by the Taoists as the "ditch of the ear", is deep set, it is an indication of a large penis.
7. A large, thick neck on a man indicates a very strong and thick penis (but not necessarily long).
8. The hair of the eyebrows is an indicant to the quality of the pubic hair.
9. The hair on the man's body is an indicant of his sexual passion.

So taking myself as an example, I have relatively thin, small lips. Think Brad Pitt haha. This would indicate I have a small penis. Now moving onto my nose, it is pretty average sized and the bridge of the nose is not wide, in proportion to my face it is only slightly larger than the rest of my features. I have deep set eyes but my eyelids are not skinny. The conch of my ear is slightly deeper than average. I have very long eyebrows that barely meet in the center (not quite a unibrow, it curves down in the center and doesn't just meet as a straight line and the hairs in the center are very sparse) but they are more thin than thick. My neck is well proportioned to my head, it is not thick or thin, it is average. My body hair is very abundant, most thick on my face, head and chest.

Now if we take all this criteria and give it a point system, we should come up with a very rough estimate for the size of my penis. Let's give small traits 0 points, average traits 1 point and big traits 2 points.

So using my data about my face above;
1: 0
2: 1
3: 0
4: 1 (Doesn't get 2 because I have thick eyelids)
5: 1 (Doesn't get 2 because my eyebrows aren't thick)
6: 1
7: 1
8: Doesn't indicate size.
9: Doesn't indicate size.

Now, all we have to do is take the mean average for penis size, the large average and the small average and set baselines. So the minimum number of points one can have is 0. We will call that 3 inches, as that is considered the average size of small penises. Now we will take the average size, which is something like 5.5 or 6 inches and give that 7 points. Now we will take the average large size which is from 10-12 inches and give that 14 points.

My results with this test would indicate a slightly smaller than average penis with 5 points. A length of roughly 5 inches.

Now let's contrast that with my actual average erect length (NBPEL) which is about 6.7 inches and my flaccid hang length which is about 3.5 inches. It seems that an average has indeed been met.

In my next post I will go into other indicating details.

[NauseousOuroboros]

Now this is the part which is going to intrigue most of you guys and I encourage the ladies to participate. I am hesitant to post this actually, as I could possibly do a few double blind polls and I don't want people to know why I'm asking the questions I'm asking but I'll go ahead anyway and probably do that somewhere else.

Just like a man, in this system a woman's facial features indicate the proportions of her vaginal canal (note that we are talking about a woman's natural unstimulated proportions averaged with her aroused proportions here, we are all aware that a woman's vagina can expand massively to accommodate childbirth but this is hardly comfortable to a woman or a natural state of expansion for sexual intercourse).

Note that with women, we encounter many problems in gauging the size of their vagina from their facial features. Women in current society are prone to modifying their facial features, often surgically and to such an extent that their actual proportions cannot be accurately or even vaguely estimated. This is personally upsetting and tragic to me, I have always seen the obsession with unnecessary cosmetic surgery as something unnatural and culturally cancerous. If nature really did intend to advertise sexual compatibilities through the face, it says a great deal about our poisoned culture when women everywhere are encouraged by massive marketing campaigns to avidly mutilate and disguise their natural features.

Anyway I digress, here are the summarized features characterizing a woman's vaginal proportions;

1. If her mouth is small in width with thin lips, she possesses a narrow and short vaginal canal. Conversely, a woman with a large, wide mouth will have a large, long and wide vagina.
2. Thick lips indicate a wide and large entrance.
3. Protruding lips indicate a very elastic vagina, it can expand to accommodate a larger penis and usually has ample lubrication.
4. A woman with more symmetrically arranged teeth will have a more symmetrically arranged genital area (not really an indication of size at all, just a weird aesthetic thing for people who care about that... I personally don't).
5. A small and flat nose indicates a wide but short vaginal canal.
6. A long nose indicates a deep, tubular vagina.
7. A strong, defined chin with no jowls indicates a strong, muscular and tight vagina. Obviously most women who exercise regularly are going to have a well defined chin (most) and good exercise helps tighten all the ligaments, including those controlling the vagina.
8. A woman with a slim face with thick muscular cheeks will have a thick and muscular vaginal wall.
9. Dimples indicate a short and small vagina with elastic capacity; it can expand to accommodate a larger penis.
10. Protruding eyes indicate a short vaginal canal.
11. Nearsightedness indicates a short vaginal canal.
12. Deep set eyes indicate a deep and long vaginal canal.
13. The amount of moisture in the eyes indicates the amount of lubrication in the vagina. If they are moist and sparkling she has a lot of lubrication. If they are dry and piercing she is not very lubricated naturally.
14. Full, long, curving eyebrows indicate a long vaginal canal. Short eyebrows indicate a shorter canal.
15. The thickness or sparseness of the eyebrow hair indicates the thickness or sparseness of the pubic hair.
16. A wide space between the eyebrows means the woman has a wide vaginal opening. A narrow space means she has a narrow vaginal opening.
17. The shape of the ditch of the woman's ear indicates her vagina shape and size, in the same way it indicates a man's penis shape and size.

Now obviously women often modify and mutilate these features beyond recognition, which again is really too bad because if these concepts hold any truth, it would seem that there is no such thing as an ideal set of features and we are destined by nature to fit together like puzzle pieces.

But don't worry, there are still some reliable indicators that are not part of the face, for both men and women. The next post deals with the hands.

[Pegasus]

Not sure this has any value or not , the only thig modern research has come up with is a loose association with overall body size.
But hey perhaps you will find something ? How would pe fit with this, would your eyelids change because of pe?

Not a big Chia fan btw.

[NauseousOuroboros]

Not sure this has any value or not , the only thig modern research has come up with is a loose association with overall body size.
But hey perhaps you will find something ? How would pe fit with this, would your eyelids change because of pe?

Not a big Chia fan btw.

I'm totally not sure either, I just think it's really interesting and worth testing rigorously I just have no idea how I'd go about doing that. I don't have the funding or the time.

Nothing else would change, that's not how this is said to work. It shows your innate tendencies. Just like a woman getting her lips pumped with silicone won't change her vagina shape, PE won't change your facial features. It's a completely innate thing. It shows what is there naturally, what is inborn and genetically determined (supposedly).

And as for Chia, I'm positive he's not the guy who came up with any of this, it's all been repackaged from ancient Eastern cultures' medicine and philosophy manuscripts, which were compiled over the time span of those cultures. Ancient China for instance had a very sexual culture where the Emperor was expected to have a massive harem of women, so I can only imagine the kind of research the medical experts of the time were doing for the Emperor's prostitutes.