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  1. 02-05-2014 #61
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    I LOVE QUESTIONS LOL!

    Okay, Phallic one that is an awesome question, and something i am currently tackling myself. Whenever i pull all the way out, until i can make it no longer, i let go an watch it snap back. I have been trying to detect the eccentric part of the movement as well as looking more into the anatomy of the nerves of the penis, along with how it is that certain glands in the body contract to slowly release its chemicals into the body in hopes of determining a way to make the workouts more effective. As of right now i am trying to view things through the lens of the three dimensional changes i spoke about in previous articles. I previously stated that smooth muscle has diagonal bands of muscle and that its relaxation and contraction represented three dimensional changes. I have noticed similar effects from pulling. when i have pulled all the way out, the penis is long and somewhat thin, but as i let it go back slowly it expands in girth a bit. I noticed this change primarily whenever i layed down and pulled back towards my belly button. In order to detect this, i had to gently wrap a finger around the shaft to feel the expansion occur. In order to test out different things, i thought i would try different tempos. I first tried the one second hold at full tension then eased back, then i tried the method involving pulling out then letting go, and then i tried the method involving a whole new approach though all based on the same concept of a heart beat along with a structural consideration. The last method i tried involved pulling the penis out all the way up until just before it snaps totally taunt and will stretch no more, then while maintaining a grip, letting it go back and relax. I did this in rapid succession taking less a second (somewhere between a second and half a second--very quickly without jerking), and i noticed a few interesting things...I was able to pull it out further than before, my penis was warmed, there was in fact a 'pull back' based on how quickly and easily it was retracting even at that fast pace, and i could actually feel the changes in girth by sensation alone in my groin area while i clearly saw the changes in length. After doing this, i then flipped the exercise on its head so to speak by taking it all the way out to maximal stretch then, letting it retract back about an inch and doing that in rapid succession, but i made sure that no jerking occurred at all(when i say jerking, i refer to a sudden snapping taunt that may tear something) and i noticed that almost immediately i got an erection. That last part of the experiment has lead me to look into nerves of the penis. The penis may not be as involuntary as once thought. when i would for instance rapidly flex and unflex my kegel muscles i would notice that fact that i would quickly start to have an erection or increased blood flow. I then made the connection that the exercises i was doing was working in a fashion very similar to kegelling but modified.

    Here is what ill recommend. I have tried all the exercises i have spoken about, and have actually noticed an increase in erections as well as quality: Once every 2-3 days set down to do the following routine

    Warm up 10 mins
    -4 sets of 10 one second count pulls as you have been doing phallic
    -then do the rapid succession pull outs in which you pull out just before full tauntness in the penis is reached and let it constrict. Do 2 bouts of 10 mins then rest for 5 mins between each.
    Lastly do the pulls that involve starting and maximal tension, then letting it contract about an inch. Remember, no jerking though. do that for 10 mins.
    Lastly, stretch the penis out, and start performing kegels. What the goal should be, is to keep the tension on while flexing the kegels, and when relaxing the kegel muscles, keep the penis from snapping back. Control the motion. do that for 10 mins.

    By the way, do all of these by pulling towards the belly button

    All in all, it will take about an hour to complete this training regimen.

    Due to the intensity, its focus on the smooth muscle and penis structure, i would say that doing THIS routine should only be done say on monday, then not done again until wednesday or maybe even thursday. that depends entirely upon whether or not you have noticed good erections, easy flexbility, the 'jelly effect' where the penis is engorged but not erect and is very squishy. If you are noticing these, then it is safe to exercise after again. You may notice theses signs the very next day, but trust me here, rest is very crucial . Try this phallic1.

    Based_God--yes i think a good break will help heal, but i would think that perhaps doing the rapid succession pulls i spoke about may speed the recovery. The ones i refer to are the ones that involve pulling the penis out to the point of almost full tauntness and no others for a week or two, and do 10 mins of those every other day. it may very well speed up the recovery by helping to restore flexibility to the tissue.

    Rick Code- the idea of the warm down, as with most PE up until recently is centered around plastic deformation. The warm down, is not necessary. A shower afterwards would be basically the same if you did this before bed like myself or in the morning.
    Last edited by The Kidd; 02-05-2014 at 06:01 PM. Reason: damn typos
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  2. 02-05-2014 #62
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    Thanks again Kidd!

    The routine you outlined above is pretty much spot on to what I did last night, including duration. After the stretching routine I hit the bathtub and warmed up under hot water and completed the workout with a jelq and pump session. I kept my erection level down to the 50-60% range and completed 2 sets of 150 jelqs with a focus on simulating the rhythm of the heart and stretching out the penis tissues as opposed to forcing an internal hydraulic expansion. In between jelq sets I used a vacuum pump.

    Now the pump I used is a rubber squeeze bulb style, which I prefer over the piston pumps. Preference being that I can pump a vacuum level of around 5 hg max and more if I orally draw a vacuum through the end of the bulb (like sucking on a straw). But at any vacuum level if I gently squeeze the bulb without forcing additional air out of the cylinder the vacuum level with drop substantially. Release the bulb and it pops back bringing the vacuum level back to full pressure. By doing this I can take the vacuum level from 4hg down to around 1.5hg and back up in a pulsatile pattern...expansion-contraction.

    Thoughts please...lol
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  3. 02-05-2014 #63
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    good question yet again, however i will need some time to answer that one. the biggest issue that vacuum pumps have, is bursting capillaries, which the penis has alot of. if you can really control the pressure, then yes go for, but if the pressure drops too fast, it may cause unwanted tissue injury as opposed to stimulation
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  4. 02-05-2014 #64
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    Interesting.

    I've never been an overly zealous pumper when it comes to pressures. I just pump with enough pressure to go into a slightly above maximum natural engorgement which for me is in the 4hg range. I don't get the petichae hemorrhaging or lymphatic swelling. I stay away from that level and duration.

    Keep the studies going Kidd and I'll help test your theories.
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  5. 02-10-2014 #65
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    I'm in the 4th workout tonight following your theory protocol Kidd. Little early to make any observations, just letting you know that I'm still in.
    Last edited by phallic1; 02-10-2014 at 07:08 PM.
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  6. 02-11-2014 #66
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    awesome! i have the answer to the pump question, but i will post that later, due to time restrictions.
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  7. 02-11-2014 #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kidd View Post
    Hello to all! It has been a very longtime since I have posted anything or contributed to the noise of this place. I have decided to do so after a very long hiatus. I do not do so for the sake of “just because”. I have very interesting bit of research to bring to bear for the Pegym and its many members.


    I wish to bring everybody's attention to smooth muscle hypertrophy. Most people who are in bodybuilding or weight lifting circles throw around “hypertrophy”, “bulging biceps” and other similar terms.


    Most people do not understand a few very interesting things about hypertrophy. Most people know that muscle hypertrophy contributes to increases inmuscle size. Most people also know that this increase in muscle size is due to an increase in contractile units, although fewer know that.Most people do not always realize that this increase is also due to an increase in overlaps in the myosin and tropomysin (thick and thinfilaments) in the muscle. Basically hypertrophy is not just an increase in girth, it is also an increase in length.


    Yes, I did say length. This fact is very much overlooked and it will start to make sense why it is so important later on in this awesome post!


    Bulging biceps!Everybody has wanted them at some point! How many know that it came about by a progressive remodeling of practically millions of fascial wrappings around the muscle? Few meat heads I would imagine. I know I didn't at first until I dropped about a thousand on biological textbooks, articles, and interviewed a few doctors LOL!


    I digress!


    Specifically the muscle expanded despite the Endomysium around the main thing people would consider the Biceps “muscle”, then thousands of perimysiums wrappings around the fasicles, and then millions of endomysiums around the individual muscle fibers, and then even more structures further down and smaller than that!


    Despite not knowing that, it happens anyway.


    This is a penis enlargement forum, so let's draw the focus in a bit more and talka bout smooth muscle.


    Smooth muscle is much like skeletal muscle in that It has thick and thin filaments. It differs in that it does not have tropomysin. This is not totally relevant to the discussion however, but it is a difference.


    Smooth muscle differs greatly from skeletal however, in the arrangement, and how it has myosin heads along its entire length. What that means, is unlike skeletal muscles that lose contractile power past a certain length,smooth muscle retains its ability to contract, even at maximum stretch! This is an incredibly important fact. It means that even when really stretched it maintains strength. What exactly does that mean? What it means, is that smooth muscle is meant for a very special task. That task is to allow total relaxation(full lengthening) and still maintain power.Something also, that is very important about smooth muscle, as I previously mentioned, is how it is arranged. Skeletal muscles are arranged in a parallel fashion and allow for contraction in one direction.


    Smooth muscle's fiber arrangement, however, is diagonal.Geometrically speaking, when considering multiple fibers connecting together, when the contract or relax, it represents big three dimensional changes in whatever structure smooth muscle is present in. Another interesting note, is that the smooth muscle is arranged around a nucleus, that allows for direct and rapid action in response to stimuli through DNA and RNA coding that could represent any number of things based on that stimuli. In order to not get way way too technical and off topic I will not go into the actions of DNA or RNA.
    Basically,suffice to say that smooth muscle needs to be able to adapt tochanges quickly, and it does.


    Back to the arrangement of the smooth muscle fibers, when the fibers relax or contract it produces a twisting motion that causes three dimensional contraction. This is important to note, in consideration to the corpus cavernosum of the penis. Contraction of the corpus causes a shrinking of the girth of the penis and the length of the penis. This is due to the actions of the smooth muscle and its three dimensional constricting on behalf of its diagonal fiber arrangement. Basically,smooth muscle are pretty damn neat LOL!


    But what does that mean for the penis and the endeavors of enlarging it? Huh. Good question. One that has stumped me for years until recently. Many many people kept popping up all of the internet telling about hanging and its awesome effects of the penis, and then many more talking about horrible scarring and impotence(ill tell you how to avoid that by the way haha), but also there was talk of an increase in girth in some people. Odd at first, until we go back to smooth muscle and its fiber arrangement and its twisting movement when it relaxes and contracts which causes three dimensional changes. Basically the pulling forces on the penis is causing a hypertrophic effect in the smooth muscle,and the hypertrophy leads to a change in the collagenous wrappings and structures in response to smooth muscle growth much like the fascial wrappings around skeletal muscles. All of this leads up to the guy pulling down his pants and a woman's reaction varying anywhere between very turned on to fear at the size! Why does this happen? The pulling causes the smooth muscle to relax and constrict which eventually causes an increase in smooth muscle mass.It should be noted though that long sessions are a bad idea and that mimicking the actions of the heart beat may be may be a good idea.Basically do short bursts of pulling and the let it constrict back again and then repeat. A good example would be 10 seconds pull and 5 seconds slowly ease the pressure to none.


    Well now hold on!What about the Tunica Albuginea. That wrapping is one tough piece of work, but also a marvelous structure that accounts for growth in three dimensions. The tunica albuginea is comprised of a circumferential inner part, that resists an increase in circumference(girth) and an out longitudinal layer that resists increases in length. What is very interesting about the two, is that they are unable to function without the other in making a rigid structure that is an erection. You see, the inner layer is unable to properly resist lengthening forces, just as the outer layer is unable to properly resist forces perpendicular to itself(girth in other words). Lets say that a man only had the inner layer. He would first off have a very floppy penis that was very long. Now lets say that this same man had the opposite, in that he had the outer layer but not the inner layer. He would have a short but very very fat penis.


    WAIT THERE IS MORE!


    Consider the fiber arrangement for a moment. The inner layer resists forces circumferentially, and the outer layer longitudinal forces. Why arrange them in that fashion? I am still not totally sure of that,but I do know how it can be exploited! When the penis smooth muscle relaxes it untwists and increases greatly in length and girth. This is where it all gets really exciting!!! Hypertrophy is considered an


    increase in the number of contractile units in skeletal muscle, but in smooth muscle its and increase in LENGTH more than GIRTH due to it having much more thin filaments than thick filaments!This is a huge connection that has just been made to smooth muscle hypertrophy caused by high blood pressure and penis enlargement! In blood vessels when the smooth muscle is exposed to the higher pressures the fibers become bigger and allow the smooth muscle cells to increase in size and power. In the case of health, this is usually a good thing that, but in the case of high blood pressure other things come into play are brought about by the smooth muscle cell. In the case of high blood pressure and I also believe penis enlargement when done too vigorously, is that the smooth muscle starts to increase the size of its endomysium layers around each cell in response to the constant pressure forces in high blood pressure and in response to the possibly over the top penis enlargement routine,and also more than likely done on a far too regular basis.


    What does this mean?? Im sure that the smart ones in the bunch have already started to figure it out, for everybody else, let me spell it out.


    Doing a penis enlargement routine that has adequate breaks planned in, along with an appropriate amount of stimuli will go along way to a bigger penis.


    Now, to address something that has just plain annoyed and bothered me for so long.


    JELQING. Where in the hell does that come into play, seriously.


    It did not make sense until a few weeks ago.


    Basically one of the key tenets to increasing wound healing and reducing scar tissue build up, or in the case of smooth muscle, endomysium build up, is providing messaging stimulation,increasing blood flow, and yes folks heat. Not to mention a plethora of other chemicals that modulate and bring about structural changes.


    I want to touch on heat real quickly though. One of the most abundant types of collagen coincides with one of the most abundant types of muscle...smooth muscle.


    The most abundant collagen type is type one. Collagen fiber type 1 is also unstable at body temperature(makes up the tunica albuginea *COUGH*). This means that I can be broken down with an ever so slight increase in body temperature. Ever felt the aches when you temperature rises? Those aches are due to collagen breakdown in response to just a minuscule two degree change in body temperature. Wicked right? It gets even better!
    The increase in temperature also causes an increase in cell permeability, local cellular metabolism, increased blood flow, and you guessed it growth!Everything coincides nicely in that regard.


    I hope for those out there that have been paying attention, that everything that I have just said has definitively proven penis enlargement is not only possible, but also about to get very exciting now that I have cleared things up. Applying just this information here will no doubt put anybody paying attention miles ahead of the game!


    Here is one last little note, on the topic of certain medical penis enlargement.Dihydrotestosterone. It is responsible for not only smooth muscle hypertrophy, but also the increased temperature in the penis that causes growth. When testosterone is converted into Dihydrotestosterone in the penis it causes, you guessed it, an increase in temperature. When people take things that increase the enzymes that convert dihydrotestosterone or do physical activities that increase its need or production(sprint,running, dopamine stimulators-green tea *COUGH*)they often get a thicker penis. This happens because the heat first affects the inner circumferential layer of the tunica albuginea increasing its breakdown and local cellular metabolism, which makes the inner tunica much more responsive to pressure, leading to increased girth. The increase in smooth muscle hypertrophy that occurs also accounts for the increased erectile hardness, which comes together for a real one two for penis enlargement.






    How should all of this be implemented? I am glad you asked.


    Make a penis workout plan that is stretch heavy, that also incorporates very lower erection jelqing to move blood around inside the penis and provide messaging stimuli. Also if you are not running or drinking green tea,or not working out, you may want to reconsider. Next if you are taking a lot of vitamin C, I would suggest sticking with only the daily allotted value as it will make penis enlargement endeavors areal pain to see gains in. Any questions, please ask away. I am sure there will be a lot of them and even more stories of success brought about by what I have just posted.


    Cheers to all, and I swear to God if somebody tries to steal this information and make a fellow man pay for it, I can only hope that the whole endeavor blows up in your face for being such a selfish money hungry prick.




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    http://ajpheart.physiology.org/content/279/5/H2085*Increasedmedial smooth muscle cell length is responsible for vascularhypertrophy in young hypertensive rats*


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    great read,,thats why i think steath innerwear is good to wear as there are infused with f.i.r. technology which excites the inner penis and causes growth.
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  8. 02-12-2014 #68
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    okay, my thoughts on penis pumping and the routine you have going? If you are doing every two days then yeah its pretty good to go, if you are using a reasonable pressure and the jelqing is soft to moderate. my thoughts on the expansion and contraction using the varying pressure, is still up in the air for me. not because it is very very applicable to a penis exercise routine, but because if the pump rig is not pretty expensive/high quality it may cause problems. If it is high quality though then all should be good. also, as far as high quality pumps if you do not have one i am pretty certain that vacu tech comes well recommended, but i would check into that a good amount due to the price.
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    Would you suggest everyone stretch in the direction of the belly button regardless of their tugback point (lot theory)?
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    Dude, the LOT theory is obsolete, it means forget about it. Do as if it never existed.
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