L-Histidine and folic acid. Possible key to unlocking massive growth.

[The Kidd]

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[kirkoloft]

All of this is uncalled for. CUSP is simply overprotective of the members. He feels responsible which is a good thing. When I read his post I wished you wouldn't react this way and see through what he was saying. He's afraid someone might hurt himself over a simple typo. You both could have handled this without it coming to this. No matter what someone tells you, you either ignore it or handle it with decorum without resorting to name calling. I appreciate what you are trying to do here, but as someone who is interested in helping people and since people are listening to you, responding to you, and looking up to you, you have a responsibility to check, recheck, double check, and triple check your posts so no one gets hurt.

Laughing my ass off! i had a seriously bad typo. i had to go back to check that out for a moment. No, the way it should have read is two 400mcg tabs. hence the double or triple the regular amount since 400 is the 100% daily value. so yes, if i were taking 2400mcg i would more than likely have really bad insomnia from it. sorry water snake!

Instead of laughing your ass off and just saying that you were sorry for the typo you could have put your ego aside and made a promise to be more careful next time. No one degraded you or your work and there are always gonna be people who question your credibility and if you're not able to handle it then I think you shouldn't be doing this in the first place. I know you would like everyone to just acknowledge your efforts and thank you for it, but this is the real world. Most scientists are not appreciated until after they're gone. Maybe that's what you're trying to do here, well in that case let me tell you that by gone I mean dead not banned.

I personally wouldn't like to see someone like you gone. Apologize for your name calling and I'm sure CUSP will turn the other cheek this time. It won't make us think any less of you, if anything it will prove what a great scientist you are. Here we should grow and help each other grow and I mean that in every sense possible. You shouldn't let this place stoop that low.

[The Kidd]

All of this is uncalled for. CUSP is simply overprotective of the members. He feels responsible which is a good thing. When I read his post I wished you wouldn't react this way and see through what he was saying. He's afraid someone might hurt himself over a simple typo. You both could have handled this without it coming to this. No matter what someone tells you, you either ignore it or handle it with decorum without resorting to name calling. I appreciate what you are trying to do here, but as someone who is interested in helping people and since people are listening to you, responding to you, and looking up to you, you have a responsibility to check, recheck, double check, and triple check your posts so no one gets hurt.

Instead of laughing your ass off and just saying that you were sorry for the typo you could have put your ego aside and made a promise to be more careful next time. No one degraded you or your work and there are always gonna be people who question your credibility and if you're not able to handle it then I think you shouldn't be doing this in the first place. I know you would like everyone to just acknowledge your efforts and thank you for it, but this is the real world. Most scientists are not appreciated until after they're gone. Maybe that's what you're trying to do here, well in that case let me tell you that by gone I mean dead not banned.

I personally wouldn't like to see someone like you gone. Apologize for your name calling and I'm sure CUSP will turn the other cheek this time. It won't make us think any less of you, if anything it will prove what a great scientist you are. Here we should grow and help each other grow and I mean that in every sense possible. You shouldn't let this place stoop that low.

....i should not have posted it as a laughter. no, absolutely not it is not a laughing matter. i would much much rather set my ego aside than ever see harm come to somebody. thats the reason im doing this. i got so sick of seeing and hearing about men going under the knife or getting horridly maimed by devices. i also got equally sick of pill scammers promising men amazing whatever at ridiculously high prices. all i want is to see every man have an equal shot. i want men to be able to act upon their physical being through means of intellect, so that way the guiding light of man is intellect and not merely genetic.

I publicly apologize for my harsh words to CUSP82. even in anger i should not have spoken in such a way. i leave the ball in CUSP's court for what to do now.

[thickrod]

In all fairness, CUSP does impede discussion on this kind of stuff with some pretty far fetched statements. In a thread in the Chem PE section he said hormones will kill you and in here he said that folic acid causes cancer.

I think it's time he posts some legitimate sources for his claims instead of what amounts to trolling under the guise of advocating caution.

The Kidd posted sources then CUSP asked him what his personal credentials were as if that could negate the merit of the scientific research he found.

CUSP, it really does seem like you post in these sections looking for a confrontation. The Kidd played off your earlier posts with laughs but you kept going.

[MrB8]

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[AverageAndAhalf]

Mr bee bee rocks

[BigO]

Thickrod, you have 12 posts here and you need to pick your battles wisely. Cusp is light years ahead of you in medical knowledge and this is fact.

Use his name and troll in the same post again and you will not make post # 14.

[thickrod]

I suppose I fail to understand how my post count correlates to medical knowledge.

Folic acid isnt like those things we were talking about in the other thread, it hasn't been tested over and over again. I generally agreed with you on that and dropped it. Why here though?

[BigO]

I just don't like you calling or referring to Cusp as trolling. That is all I am trying to get across by mentioning post count.

He is a site administrator. Respect that and we are good.

[CUSP82]

In all fairness, CUSP does impede discussion on this kind of stuff with some pretty far fetched statements. In a thread in the Chem PE section he said hormones will kill you and in here he said that folic acid causes cancer.

I think it's time he posts some legitimate sources for his claims instead of what amounts to trolling under the guise of advocating caution.

The Kidd posted sources then CUSP asked him what his personal credentials were as if that could negate the merit of the scientific research he found.

CUSP, it really does seem like you post in these sections looking for a confrontation. The Kidd played off your earlier posts with laughs but you kept going.

A hormone is a steroid. Steroids when misused will harm you. Have you seen the low T commercials on tv? When giving a patient, A PATIENT, exogenous testosterone have you listened to the side effects? Do I have to pull up links which I am terrible at or should I just tell you to go watch tv. Yup that's easier; go watch tv.

I emphazised the word patient in the preceding paragraph because these drugs, these medicines, are to be used on patients that have a diagnosed problem. In the old world no one except a patient could get these medications. In todays world you can get it anywhere, whether it be of good quality or not you guys really don't care about. How many guys that visit this forum are taking exogenous testosterone that they bought off the net without medial reasoning, simply thinking that more T means more man? I would shutter to think how many actually do. We're not even talking about the anabolic steroids that body builders use because it's easier that hard work. Testosterone, a steroid, in excess will cause you harm and will kill you. You go Google it; I haven't the time or inclination to do so.

In nature too much of anything causes issues, yes even too much sex. You mentioned folic acid, readlily available in a normal diet. One cup of Special K cereal in the morning gives you all the folic acid you need for the day. Now in addition to that since many foods that you eat during the day contain folic acid how much folic acid does one's body get by the end of the day? So you think adding extra folic acid in pill form is going to be a good thing? That particular article about excess folic acid being linked to certain cancers was found in probably the least credible source available yet one some of you folks like to read; Prevention Magazine. You look it up; I have more important things to do.

A guy I knew, back when jucing was the thing to do, drank 2 quarts of carrot juice a day.He touted the benefits of juicing and and carrots were great. I saw him a few moths later and his pallor was yellow. When I pointed this out to him he told me, as many here do, that I was wrong and didn't know what I was talking about. It was a healthy glow, as he called it. Well he died a few years later from complications of that "healthy glow". Heypervitaminosis is not a good idea; excess will hurt you sooner or later.

My dissenting voice is for what? So some of you guys think I'm really smart? I really could give too shits about that. You are, well for the most part, nameless faceless people somewhere out in space. My nature and my lifes' work has been to care for people. The knowledge I have accumulated over a life of study and work, well let's just say I know some stuff and to run around giving links for this and that is just a waste of time. You see that's what I really object too; someone finds some article here or there and take it as gospel or the holy grail of pe. What they find is one very very small peice of the magnificent puzzle know as the human body. I'm sure you can find an article that arginine is good for erections. Yup there are many like that. Now at the same time it's good for erections it also screws up a diabetics blood sugar level so horney diabetics will take more arginine while at the same time screwing up their diabetes, a far more serious malady that impotence.

Here's a simple solution if you don't like what I say; just put me on your igore list. That settles it; you won't have to read what I say. If you don't put me on the list then it's your fault not mine.

As for TheKidd,hey he's a nice young man and sincerely trying to help. Nothing wrong with that. He will have a bright future in his field but will his views on things be the same now as they will be 30 years from now? Nope! As he gains experience he will learn that the theoretical world is far different than the practcical world. He will end up seeing people that will do some pretty crazy or stupid things and injure themselves by reading something that someone published on the net. He will find what he was taught in school or read online just may not work. Why? Becaause dealing with humans outside of a laboratory setting is far different than the real world. He will know then. Unfortuanately I don't think I'll be around for it but it will happen.