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  • Hard Flaccid and Erectile Dysfunction for 6 years PLEASE HELP

    Hey Guys,

    I'm posting this desperately seeking help because like the title of my post says I've been struggling with HF and ED for 6 years now. I started masterbating with and without porn around the age of 12-13 and became sexually active my freshman year of high school at the age of 14. All throughout high school and college I never experienced any problems with achieving or maintaining an erection but I will say that from time to time I would experience premature ejaculation. The premature ejaculation never really bothered me too much and I always assumed it was because I was young, very sensitive and easily excited. Now in retrospect I believe the premature ejaculation was caused by a tight pelvic floor that was conditioned by masterbating with porn. I never attempted penis exercises such as "jelqing" but now that I think about it I would masterbate while watching porn and try to last as long as possible by not touching myself or kegeling when I would reach the point of no return. So in a sense I guess I was "edging" in hopes of curing my premature ejaculation. When I was 22 is when the real problems started...

    I remember during finals week I was pulling all nighters and studying as much as I could day in and day out. Then one day I had sex with my girlfriend at the time in the morning, masterbated to porn in the afternoon and then masterbated once again at night time in between studies. I know now that this was a very stupid thing to do but at the time I was under the impression that my penis was indestructible and my stress levels were pretty high. That third time while I was masterbating I felt a very sharp pain in my pelvic floor region and my penis immediately "turtled" and retracted towards my body. My penis was very small, hard to the touch, cold to the touch and lifeless. Never experiencing something like this before I became very anxious and worried. I didn't know what to do and was also very embarrassed so I didn't tell anyone and thought things would resolve on their own. After a few days my penis started to loosen up a little bit but was still hard in the flaccid state, smaller, cold and the sensitivity was very abnormal. I decided it was time to tell my mother who insisted that I see a urologist. The first urologist I went to basically wrote me off, told me to resume masterbating and wrote me a script for viagra. Realizing this guy didn't help me at all I went to get a second opinion from another urologist. This doctor ran every test imaginable but everything came back normal in regard to my penis and overall health. He even suggested that I might have prostatitis even though my bloodwork, urine, and prostate fluid showed no signs of infection. Finally I went to a third urologist, who actually listened to me and realized things were abnormally hard down there but admitted that this wasn't something he was familiar with.

    At that point I was very depressed and came to the conclusion that this was something I would have to solve on my own. I started googling my symptoms which are:

    • smaller in the flaccid state
    • harder in the flaccid state
    • veins are more prominent in penis (especially what I believe is the dorsal vein)
    • no morning erections
    • no spontaneous erections
    • when erection is achieved it is 60%-70%
    • hard to achieve any erection while standing
    • erection needs constant stimulation to maintain rigidness
    • less sensitivity (sometimes completely numb)
    • lower libido
    • deflated glans
    • cold glans
    • dribbling ejaculations
    • symptoms sometimes worse after ejaculation
    • hesitancy when urinating
    • weak urine flow
    • straining with bowel movements


    There might be some other symptoms but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. When I googled these symptoms I was shocked to see how many men were in the same boat as me. During this time I also learned that the pelvic floor muscles played a major role in achieving and maintaining erections. I decided the next plausible step for me would be seeing a pelvic floor physical therapist. Over the last 4 years or so I think I've seen 4-5 different pelvic floor specialists. I even went to Beyond Basics in NYC but was only able to go a few times because of the distance. Sometimes I would leave these places with some relief but roughly only 10%-20% better. The longest I ever saw a therapist consistently was for 4 months 3x a week and I'm still in the same situation. They would perform inter rectal trigger point therapy on me but I never felt like that made much of any difference. In fact, I feel like I'm more tight towards the front of my pelvic floor not the back near the anus. No physical therapist I ever saw focused on this front area of the pelvic floor. I also feel like none of the physical therapists took my whole body into consideration. I always see people with this problem stating that body alignment and posture have a role to play with pelvic floor dysfunction and since then I've been working on postural issues that I believe I have such as: kyphosis, ATP, knee valgus and my right hip is higher than my left.

    Over the last 6 years my symptoms have seemed to fluctuate for better or for worse but I have never returned to 100% normal function. I remember a couple years ago I used to perform the 11 stretches featured in Amy Stein's "Heal Pelvic Pain" religiously and that seemed to help me out the most. Again, I would never reach 100% recovery but I would notice improvement here and there. I became frustrated and I stopped doing these exercises and started focusing on other aspects of my life such as my career and school. Three years ago I met the woman of my dreams and for the first year of our relationship my symptoms weren't so terrible. I knew that I was still not back to normal but she couldn't really notice a problem. I was lucky enough to get married while having this condition but for the last year and a half my symptoms have seemed to return with a vengeance. This has seriously taken a toll on my self-esteem and confidence which has negatively effected my life in many ways. Sometimes I even feel selfish for bringing her along on this awful ride. She has been very loving and supportive through all of it but I still can't help but think that she would be better off without me.

    Im 28 years old and about to turn 29. I made a pact with myself that I am going to do everything in my power to get rid of this and not give up. I feel like the medical world has in many ways let me down and I'm going to have to rely on myself to get out of this hellhole. I am at a point where I believe you guys are my only hope at overcoming this and would greatly appreciate any suggestions or advice you may have. I highly respect this community and believe that you have improved the lives of many men across the globe. I hope someone here can point me in the right direction...

    Sorry for this long post but this problem has been going on for many years. I've learned a lot about myself throughout this process and have gained an enormous amount of compassion for other people. I tried to write down everything that I thought was important and related to my condition so it could give you guys a better picture of what I'm dealing with and how to solve it. I guess my main questions are:

    1. Does this sound like your typical hard flaccid/tight pelvic floor case?
    2. Do you think my postural issues are holding me back from reaching 100% recovery?
    3. Should I be able to feel a reverse kegel in the front of my pelvic floor? Would gaining more strength in my abdominals help me with reverse kegels?
    4. Is there anything else I'm not thinking of that could potentially help me out?


    Thank you in advance and I hope all of you had a wonderful Christmas! Feel free to ask me any questions!

  • #2
    Originally posted by sobie24 View Post
    Hey Guys,

    I'm posting this desperately seeking help because like the title of my post says I've been struggling with HF and ED for 6 years now. I started masterbating with and without porn around the age of 12-13 and became sexually active my freshman year of high school at the age of 14. All throughout high school and college I never experienced any problems with achieving or maintaining an erection but I will say that from time to time I would experience premature ejaculation. The premature ejaculation never really bothered me too much and I always assumed it was because I was young, very sensitive and easily excited. Now in retrospect I believe the premature ejaculation was caused by a tight pelvic floor that was conditioned by masterbating with porn. I never attempted penis exercises such as "jelqing" but now that I think about it I would masterbate while watching porn and try to last as long as possible by not touching myself or kegeling when I would reach the point of no return. So in a sense I guess I was "edging" in hopes of curing my premature ejaculation. When I was 22 is when the real problems started...

    I remember during finals week I was pulling all nighters and studying as much as I could day in and day out. Then one day I had sex with my girlfriend at the time in the morning, masterbated to porn in the afternoon and then masterbated once again at night time in between studies. I know now that this was a very stupid thing to do but at the time I was under the impression that my penis was indestructible and my stress levels were pretty high. That third time while I was masterbating I felt a very sharp pain in my pelvic floor region and my penis immediately "turtled" and retracted towards my body. My penis was very small, hard to the touch, cold to the touch and lifeless. Never experiencing something like this before I became very anxious and worried. I didn't know what to do and was also very embarrassed so I didn't tell anyone and thought things would resolve on their own. After a few days my penis started to loosen up a little bit but was still hard in the flaccid state, smaller, cold and the sensitivity was very abnormal. I decided it was time to tell my mother who insisted that I see a urologist. The first urologist I went to basically wrote me off, told me to resume masterbating and wrote me a script for viagra. Realizing this guy didn't help me at all I went to get a second opinion from another urologist. This doctor ran every test imaginable but everything came back normal in regard to my penis and overall health. He even suggested that I might have prostatitis even though my bloodwork, urine, and prostate fluid showed no signs of infection. Finally I went to a third urologist, who actually listened to me and realized things were abnormally hard down there but admitted that this wasn't something he was familiar with.

    At that point I was very depressed and came to the conclusion that this was something I would have to solve on my own. I started googling my symptoms which are:

    • smaller in the flaccid state
    • harder in the flaccid state
    • veins are more prominent in penis (especially what I believe is the dorsal vein)
    • no morning erections
    • no spontaneous erections
    • when erection is achieved it is 60%-70%
    • hard to achieve any erection while standing
    • erection needs constant stimulation to maintain rigidness
    • less sensitivity (sometimes completely numb)
    • lower libido
    • deflated glans
    • cold glans
    • dribbling ejaculations
    • symptoms sometimes worse after ejaculation
    • hesitancy when urinating
    • weak urine flow
    • straining with bowel movements


    There might be some other symptoms but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. When I googled these symptoms I was shocked to see how many men were in the same boat as me. During this time I also learned that the pelvic floor muscles played a major role in achieving and maintaining erections. I decided the next plausible step for me would be seeing a pelvic floor physical therapist. Over the last 4 years or so I think I've seen 4-5 different pelvic floor specialists. I even went to Beyond Basics in NYC but was only able to go a few times because of the distance. Sometimes I would leave these places with some relief but roughly only 10%-20% better. The longest I ever saw a therapist consistently was for 4 months 3x a week and I'm still in the same situation. They would perform inter rectal trigger point therapy on me but I never felt like that made much of any difference. In fact, I feel like I'm more tight towards the front of my pelvic floor not the back near the anus. No physical therapist I ever saw focused on this front area of the pelvic floor. I also feel like none of the physical therapists took my whole body into consideration. I always see people with this problem stating that body alignment and posture have a role to play with pelvic floor dysfunction and since then I've been working on postural issues that I believe I have such as: kyphosis, ATP, knee valgus and my right hip is higher than my left.

    Over the last 6 years my symptoms have seemed to fluctuate for better or for worse but I have never returned to 100% normal function. I remember a couple years ago I used to perform the 11 stretches featured in Amy Stein's "Heal Pelvic Pain" religiously and that seemed to help me out the most. Again, I would never reach 100% recovery but I would notice improvement here and there. I became frustrated and I stopped doing these exercises and started focusing on other aspects of my life such as my career and school. Three years ago I met the woman of my dreams and for the first year of our relationship my symptoms weren't so terrible. I knew that I was still not back to normal but she couldn't really notice a problem. I was lucky enough to get married while having this condition but for the last year and a half my symptoms have seemed to return with a vengeance. This has seriously taken a toll on my self-esteem and confidence which has negatively effected my life in many ways. Sometimes I even feel selfish for bringing her along on this awful ride. She has been very loving and supportive through all of it but I still can't help but think that she would be better off without me.

    Im 28 years old and about to turn 29. I made a pact with myself that I am going to do everything in my power to get rid of this and not give up. I feel like the medical world has in many ways let me down and I'm going to have to rely on myself to get out of this hellhole. I am at a point where I believe you guys are my only hope at overcoming this and would greatly appreciate any suggestions or advice you may have. I highly respect this community and believe that you have improved the lives of many men across the globe. I hope someone here can point me in the right direction...

    Sorry for this long post but this problem has been going on for many years. I've learned a lot about myself throughout this process and have gained an enormous amount of compassion for other people. I tried to write down everything that I thought was important and related to my condition so it could give you guys a better picture of what I'm dealing with and how to solve it. I guess my main questions are:

    1. Does this sound like your typical hard flaccid/tight pelvic floor case?
    2. Do you think my postural issues are holding me back from reaching 100% recovery?
    3. Should I be able to feel a reverse kegel in the front of my pelvic floor? Would gaining more strength in my abdominals help me with reverse kegels?
    4. Is there anything else I'm not thinking of that could potentially help me out?


    Thank you in advance and I hope all of you had a wonderful Christmas! Feel free to ask me any questions!
    So you had a happy married life for a year then what's the problem now?What are your symptoms now that sucks you?When did you 1st visit this forum and where you continuously in touch of this forum for the past few years?Did you start doing any workoutor or does your hf gets worse or better after workout?

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    • #3
      Look. You injured your self. And you know that injuries need REST ( and a few other things ) to heal up. You need to take a month off. Without masturbation. Light reverse kegeling ( 10 RK 3 sec hold ) One in the morning and one set before you sleep. If you feel tired just let two days pass and repeat. When sitting in a chair try to always keep you back STRAIGHT ( there are many reasons you should do that ). Also check bigbobs signature, its very helpfull for pelvic floor injuries. Also add to your 1 month routine the hindi squat too. When your resting month has passed and you want to procced to something more. Message me or post it here. Good luck bro. Many have gone through this. Also i think its time to perfect your tongue skills . lol have fun and good luck.
      https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...rspective.html Hard flaccid and why you have it. Recovered.

      Link to off site location removed.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ranchi View Post
        So you had a happy married life for a year then what's the problem now?What are your symptoms now that sucks you?When did you 1st visit this forum and where you continuously in touch of this forum for the past few years?Did you start doing any workoutor or does your hf gets worse or better after workout?
        Well when I met her I still had all of symptoms I listed in bold but to a lesser degree. Back then I was able to achieve a decent erection suitable for sex but I still knew there was a problem but went on with my life. Currently I can't even have sex because my erection quality is terrible. I almost feel like I'm back at square one like when I first started experiencing problems six years ago. I first visited this forum 3 years ago when I started researching about my symptoms and no doctors I visited were able to help me. This is my first post on the forum. I feel that if I do any type of work out with weights that my symptoms become worse not better.

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        • #5
          Your wife thinks nothing is wrong? When I told me ex about my Problem she thought I was joking and said she never noticed anything wrong during sex. Are your erecfions okay for sex? If you get overly stressed at work it could just add to your problem even more.

          You can try doing more trigger point therapy on your hips, adductors abd glutes to see if that makes a difference and doing stuff like glute exercises to see if it works. Did your physio do external work on your BC and IC muscles? Otherwise, seems like you're living pretty normality with the Problem.

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          • #6
            Week urine flow. Problem in bowel. Iam sure RK and yoga is going to help.
            https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...rspective.html Hard flaccid and why you have it. Recovered.

            Link to off site location removed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by greg123 View Post
              Look. You injured your self. And you know that injuries need REST ( and a few other things ) to heal up. You need to take a month off. Without masturbation. Light reverse kegeling ( 10 RK 3 sec hold ) One in the morning and one set before you sleep. If you feel tired just let two days pass and repeat. When sitting in a chair try to always keep you back STRAIGHT ( there are many reasons you should do that ). Also check bigbobs signature, its very helpfull for pelvic floor injuries. Also add to your 1 month routine the hindi squat too. When your resting month has passed and you want to procced to something more. Message me or post it here. Good luck bro. Many have gone through this. Also i think its time to perfect your tongue skills . lol have fun and good luck.
              He doesn't need rest. This happend 6 years ago...anything in the body would've healed by now. When I got Hf I didn't touch myself for 2 months and it just made everything worse because it just deconditioned my penis and made my hormones out of wack

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              • #8
                Mike. I was injured for 2 and a half years. I rested for a few months without masturbation and porn and eq returned. My Injury was way worse than you think. My penis changed in shape and i have a freaking hourglass. Listen to me ive been battling inuries for along time even though iam young. I know what works and what doesnt and i clearly saw improvements after a rest. Also after that i started jelqing again the right way. Very light routine while being flaccid. And guess what. I have morning wood again. Visible vains and great erections. I also do yoga to fix hard flaccid. I could also not pee and shit because of my poor pelvic floor mucles. Well guess again. Iam cured. Yoga squats and RK saved my ass.
                https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...rspective.html Hard flaccid and why you have it. Recovered.

                Link to off site location removed.

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                • #9
                  Rest improved your EQ because abstaining jacks up your libido. I got EQ as well with my HF and abstaining just makes my dick super sensitive. And good to hear you're better, but guys with hf have abstained from anywhere to 1-6 months and it didn nothing. Anyway, not here to hijack OPs thread.


                  OP, try to add in the Hindu squats and RKs...but tell us what has changed so much over the last year? If your symptoms were manageable before what has turned them back into being worse?

                  I would keep doing the stretches and exercises as they could mitigate the symptoms and in the mean time you could take a little cialis to take the stress off of you for a bit.

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                  • #10
                    I didnt say abstaining can cure hard flaccid.But if you keep masturbating while trying to cure it, it will only cause more tension in the muscles. HF is very weird.
                    https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...rspective.html Hard flaccid and why you have it. Recovered.

                    Link to off site location removed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by greg123 View Post
                      Look. You injured your self. And you know that injuries need REST ( and a few other things ) to heal up. You need to take a month off. Without masturbation. Light reverse kegeling ( 10 RK 3 sec hold ) One in the morning and one set before you sleep. If you feel tired just let two days pass and repeat. When sitting in a chair try to always keep you back STRAIGHT ( there are many reasons you should do that ). Also check bigbobs signature, its very helpfull for pelvic floor injuries. Also add to your 1 month routine the hindi squat too. When your resting month has passed and you want to procced to something more. Message me or post it here. Good luck bro. Many have gone through this. Also i think its time to perfect your tongue skills . lol have fun and good luck.
                      So by injured myself you mean I strained my pelvic floor muscles that day I felt the sharp pain 6 years ago? I've definitely been working on my sitting posture and making it a point to engage my core and sit on my sit bones. I've read about reverse kegels but never could tell if I was performing them correctly. Will the hindi squat allow me to feel the sensation of a reverse kegel more? Should I be able to feel a sensation in the front of the pelvic floor? I've seen people say that a front reverse kegel is similar to how you push down when your pissing to get the stream going faster. Have people noticed that this front area needs to be focused on more when dealing with hard flaccid? I will check out bigbob's signature and see what it has to say. lol yeah my tongue has been more active lately but it's disappointing when I don't get hard enough for sex when eating my wife out.

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                      • #12
                        Yes thats the muscle. It pushes urine out faster. And you also fart with it. When doing a proper hindi squat and you activate your RK muscle it will be easier for you to tell yes.
                        https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectil...rspective.html Hard flaccid and why you have it. Recovered.

                        Link to off site location removed.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mikecares View Post
                          Your wife thinks nothing is wrong? When I told me ex about my Problem she thought I was joking and said she never noticed anything wrong during sex. Are your erecfions okay for sex? If you get overly stressed at work it could just add to your problem even more.

                          You can try doing more trigger point therapy on your hips, adductors abd glutes to see if that makes a difference and doing stuff like glute exercises to see if it works. Did your physio do external work on your BC and IC muscles? Otherwise, seems like you're living pretty normality with the Problem.
                          For the first year while I was dating my wife my issues weren't as bad to be honest and she didn't notice a difference. I could notice a difference in sensation, my erections were probably 70-80% and my glans wouldn't inflate normally but I was still able to have sex which was a huge relief. The thing is my symptoms have fluctuated over the course of 6 years and when they were at their worst I would be totally numb and lifeless down there. I've slept with around 15 different women since this happened 6 years ago and a few of those relationships ended because of the erection issues I was experiencing. Right now my wife does think something is wrong because my penis is cold and hard to the touch currently and we haven't been having sex. I have started to do the pigeon pose in yoga for my hips and I know that my glutes are extremely weak. When I went for pelvic floor specialists they would always just stick a finger up my ass to feel around for trigger points.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sobie24 View Post
                            For the first year while I was dating my wife my issues weren't as bad to be honest and she didn't notice a difference. I could notice a difference in sensation, my erections were probably 70-80% and my glans wouldn't inflate normally but I was still able to have sex which was a huge relief. The thing is my symptoms have fluctuated over the course of 6 years and when they were at their worst I would be totally numb and lifeless down there. I've slept with around 15 different women since this happened 6 years ago and a few of those relationships ended because of the erection issues I was experiencing. Right now my wife does think something is wrong because my penis is cold and hard to the touch currently and we haven't been having sex. I have started to do the pigeon pose in yoga for my hips and I know that my glutes are extremely weak. When I went for pelvic floor specialists they would always just stick a finger up my ass to feel around for trigger points.
                            Did you end these relationships or did they? Because it sounds like you are putting more stress on yourself which is compounding your hf problem. You can still mitigate these symptoms (even if you feel like this stuff isn't helping your problem "go away") with doing the stretches, RKs, Hindu squats and other pelvic floor exercises. Also, start doing internal TP again but this time do it yourself: buy a therawand and use that. Even though you said it didn't make it go away, it Can still help a bit. Keep doing the posture exercises as well

                            Also, you can take supplements to help with libido and EQ and at worst you can try cialis. Also, Maybe try having a few glasses of wine with your wife before sex to take the stress off.

                            All the stuff I listed is what I do to try and cope with my HF and it's worked pretty well

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                            • #15
                              I do feel that ejaculation does sometimes make my symptoms worse because my pelvic floor muscles are contracting when they are already tight to begin with. I have abstained before in the past for a month or so but never incorporated the hindi squat or RK's while doing so. I've recently quit porn a few months ago because I believe it doesn't help anything even if you don't have pelvic floor issues. And the answer your question mike, I'm really not sure what has changed in the last year to make my symptoms come back with a vengeance. I wish I did because although I was experiencing symptoms of a tight pelvic floor before, things weren't this bad. I've tried cialis and viagra before but didn't notice much of a difference and for some reason it would make me feel sort of light headed. It's interested that you mentioned a "baseball bat shape" to your penis greg because during these past 6 years my penis has looked like that but it eventually went away.

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