Locating and Activating the Ischiocavernosus Muscle (IC) to obtain more 'Penis Power'

[Pegasus]

You guys may as well be speaking Martian. I haven't a clue what you mean by Kegels ... Seen an article by a medic saying they're "dangerous" for most men. Reverse Kegels, BC, HF, What are you on about ? Read a post by one chap who said he'd tried IC exercises and got a fast erection, which, when he tried again became almost painful. However, I haven't read a single post which actually tells you clearly, and succinctly, how the devil you go about finding your IC muscle, and then how to exercise it. One post said he thought "It was the clearest explanation of where the IC is located and what it does' ... sorry guys, but it was clear as mud for me. All I want to know is how you identify the IC muscle in your own penis, ie., what do you actually do ? Step by Step Idiot's Guide Style, and then how you exercise it to get a great erection ? Will someone please, please give me a clear, layman's explanation without all the BC, Kegel, Reverse Kegel stuff, in plain English.

First thing start your own thread do not threadjack .
Any number of threads on the questions you ask . We can take you though it starting with basic kegels . Might I suggest given your lack of knowledge you start with the basics .

[Big Al]

You guys may as well be speaking Martian. I haven't a clue what you mean by Kegels ... Seen an article by a medic saying they're "dangerous" for most men. Reverse Kegels, BC, HF, What are you on about ? Read a post by one chap who said he'd tried IC exercises and got a fast erection, which, when he tried again became almost painful. However, I haven't read a single post which actually tells you clearly, and succinctly, how the devil you go about finding your IC muscle, and then how to exercise it. One post said he thought "It was the clearest explanation of where the IC is located and what it does' ... sorry guys, but it was clear as mud for me. All I want to know is how you identify the IC muscle in your own penis, ie., what do you actually do ? Step by Step Idiot's Guide Style, and then how you exercise it to get a great erection ? Will someone please, please give me a clear, layman's explanation without all the BC, Kegel, Reverse Kegel stuff, in plain English.

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[GettingOverIt]

You guys may as well be speaking Martian. I haven't a clue what you mean by Kegels ... Seen an article by a medic saying they're "dangerous" for most men. Reverse Kegels, BC, HF, What are you on about ? Read a post by one chap who said he'd tried IC exercises and got a fast erection, which, when he tried again became almost painful. However, I haven't read a single post which actually tells you clearly, and succinctly, how the devil you go about finding your IC muscle, and then how to exercise it. One post said he thought "It was the clearest explanation of where the IC is located and what it does' ... sorry guys, but it was clear as mud for me. All I want to know is how you identify the IC muscle in your own penis, ie., what do you actually do ? Step by Step Idiot's Guide Style, and then how you exercise it to get a great erection ? Will someone please, please give me a clear, layman's explanation without all the BC, Kegel, Reverse Kegel stuff, in plain English.

To me it feels like tightening your abs:

- Imagine you had abs around your fat pad.

- Tighten that area up like you are flexing the abs.

- While doing that you might notice that area and your abdomen sucking in.

- At the same time try and Lift your tool as you would a slow motion kegel.

- Then while keeping that lower fat pad area tight do a slow reverse kegel. Like peeing out.

The combination above ie the slow kegel followed by the reverse kegel is what I think exercises the IC muscle.

If you get this right it does induce a very controlled erection level. So this format of locating the IC, is best done with an erection.

[Joven Tantra]

Is this what IC contractions should look like?
https://youtu.be/Lle3kHGjJ6c (starts at 1:08)

[DickerSchwanz]

Also the exercises you talked about on this thread, are they to be done while sitting or standing? Because when you use words like downwards or inwards, i wonder what you mean because these terms mean different things in different positions.

Can and should do in all positions. sitting, standing lying down. Up is in relation to my head. Down then always means towards the legs.

However i wonder if strengthening a tight IC muscle does any good.

Control is important. Being able to relax and tighten is slowly and releasing the muscle conciously.

I apologize, but after going through this thread I don’t have a firm grasp on how to know I am training the IC.

Is it as simple as performing a RK when erect such that I am more engorged than normal (particularly the head), and then gently pushing my penis so that it angles left, and then repeating so it angles right?

What would be a good routine? 5 sets of 30 seconds left and 30 seconds right every other day?

using RK has that effect. Very similar. IC is still different and more direct using the muscles consciously contracting them. More intense.
It`s like "lifting a weight up" vs "contracting your biceps to move weight up". That`s the difficult step to have the connection. easy with biceps but hard with the IC. It's like using ear muscles lol.

Is this something someone with PreP should be looking into ? If i understand correctly to start doing a RK you can use the IC muscle to start the pushing/balloning effect because the IC is in the starting line to push out on the PC and then PB. if the IC is strong and you can isolate it correctly you should in logic be able to have anothe muscle to control the push on the other areas and 3 muscles are better than 1 for more control ? But you have to also be care to not over work it because then the IC will become too tense and not work at all. Is my logic correct ?

Yes, that`s possible. I can do a full RK and an IC ontop. A very strong RK does hinder the IC from full function. It`s a bit like pressing the bicep of someone curling down. But you can play with intensities. Waves.

I think I have located and figured out how to use/train it.

Definitely easier with an erection.

I noticed that if my penis is semi erect and I engage this IC muscle, it pushes my penis into a pumped erection. So it's like ballooning the penis up. When the muscle is engaging I noticed my testicles rising as I tightened the muscles.

The pictures shown here should be checked out well and understood cos this helps visualization and connecting your mind to locating it when you attempt to do the exercise.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if done correctly, you can really feel the tension pressure on the sides of your penis but at the point around your pubic bone area where your penis comes out of your body?

You totally got it, congrats.
A- Yes that`s where you focus the movement towards especially to get a direct effect on the penis. But you can also focus it deeper inside. The muscles is basically all the way the CC goes inside. The CC splits along with the IC "legs".
I can shift the muscles from ontop the CC towars the sides. It's like feeling arm muscles go over very soft cartilage and noticing the shift by very subtle arm movements while flexing.

I use my BC muscle and IC muscles along with RK`s to fill a semi to erection. Not in all situations possible but with some arousal a nice ballooning effect.
I assist it with breathing. (don`t overdo bad breathing.)
I hold as slight RK and switch to an IC hold and squezze my semi erect penis inside the body. This might already fill the penis especially the glans.
I then do a fast BC Kegel(NO HOLD) to push blood into my CS which rushes into the Glans. That BC Kegel if done hard overpowers the IC hold and the RK should be released too. BC is a stronger muscle, like Biceps vs triceps. I do that at the top of an inhale and then switch to an exhale AND immediately to a very hard IC hold(then you can add the RK along with it)

The IC hold after the BC kegel holds in the blood the BC pushed into the penis. A strong IC and RK holds possibly everything in the BC pushed in.
Then you do again the BC to get more blood in and repeat.
If done along with the breathing you will have very short inbreaths. Without the breathing its very hard.
I do that until I can`t get more blood in, then I hold the IC and RK for as long as I can.
Using the hand to clamp base off slightly to keep blood in helps too. It's like assisting someone deadlifting. The stronger the IC the more blood you can hold.

I'm looking into training my IC muscle as well. I think I'm getting it. From my understanding, it is sort of like a kegel but where you only hold or try to hold the very beginning of the "movement." I seen the base of my penis go inward a bit but I can barely hold it for a second if that and if I try to hold it longer it usually turns into a full kegel.

Am I on the right track? And do I just need to work on trying to hold it longer without doing a full kegel?

You need to see it as muscles. I engage the Ischiocavernosus muscles to get an IC contraction. I also engage the BC muscles which is different.
The video I couldn`t sit through. Anatomy diagrams help.

I think i can also localise the IC by what everyone else says starting a kegel but very lightly and only by maintaining the start of the movement.
Would training this muscle help counter IKs because if it is strong you have more control and can counter them more easily while doing RKs ?

It gets you there but a full IC kegel, you only use these 2 muscles no other PF kegel muscle at all, it prevents the full contraction for me.

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I also do it while walking which is like fucking with just your inner penis. Which is no suprise cause the IC muscles in a vagina are stronger and can clamp the penis and most of the vagina canal. (when she can squezze but also pushes out)

[GettingOverIt]

This is a long read but worth it. Check it out:
https://healthdoc13.wordpress.com/ta...rnosus-muscle/

[Robson1444]

Hey dicker can you tell me what do you think about tugging a slightly stretched penis in order to activate the IC.I felt better activation of the IC by lightly pulling my flaccid penis upwards and trying to tug it.I saw a doctor prescribe it too-Geng Long Hsu.In my opinion i felt more activation than the flaccid without very light stretching.

[DickerSchwanz]

Yeah the IC might react to different stretches. Stretching it too hard might result in an injury or tightness in the IC.

It's almost impossible to me to have a stretch access to the IC with a flaccid. Sideways up it stretches the opposite IC "leg" a bit.
When you can access your inner body anchoring of the penis with a stretch you might pull on the IC too.

Easiest IC workout is semi hard to hard and then just flexing it. Sitting pushing down forward on the erect shaft I can get a gut pull with the IC vs. the push.
With missionary intercourse fun to lean back on your own heels and then angle her so you can dick push her up with the IC inside her lol same exercise. The flex can be felt inside her but obviously improbable that the IC muscle could lift her whole body lol that would be some dick power as would be pushing yourself up with the help of your dick alone. Impossible? probably ^^

[2young4this]

Hey all,

I tried locating the IC muscle, I feel I can sense it kind of tightening from the sides and around like explained - when I am doing a light kegel, I feel the muscle hardening a little with my hand also, however, trying to get a tighter contraction only results in BC contracting together with the IC? Cant imagine how it is one or the other.

Do you think I may have found it?

It also seems that no matter how much i try, I always back kegel in addition to trying to isolate the IC. Yesterday I tried to find it during erection and flaccid for like 15 minutes and my PF feels tight like I was on a masturbation/sex marathon. (Have only been masturbating every 7 days for some time and didnt feel this tightness for a long time.) And I really did not do that much kegeling, just light ones and a couple hard ones to try and see the difference.

I have NO ERECTION PROBLEMS at all, but suffer from PreE quite badly.

Can this imply something about what causes my PF overactivity? Getting so tight it is uncomfortable from just a couple kegels? Could this mean weakness and I should kegel more? I RK all the time but getting this after all this time makes me think it had no effect from immediate tension release.

Should I wait a day and try to isolate the IC again? Scared of more PF tigthness.

What the hell.

[DickerSchwanz]

you need to train control and relax all of the muscles then you can adjust movements, speed etc. and kegels etc. can help it along the way.
Kegel like its on a dial with not hard stops but slow contractions and then slow releases.

IC I wouldn't know how to get my hands right at the muscle. It`s inside check the anatomy diagrams different ones.
Sounds you are getting there. Kegel and IC are different. You can`t do a full kegel while doing a full IC and vice vers, if both are ok. Like triceps vs. biceps.