I've trained my PF to not want to ejaculate - how can I reverse this?

[ThatGuy34]

Good, go for that 22min yoga... To be honest, there are some people that do up to 40 total min a day, so you have room if you're not making gains. 2x a day really should be bare minimum until you are symptom free and can maintain that with 1 session/day (1 session is day is a maintenance routine). You will probably need to do yoga for atleast the next year, but really you should do it the rest of your life.
When you masturbate, focus on breathing properly and keeping everything relaxed. With the breathing being done properly in your yoga, it should be easier to maintain that technique during stimulation, also considering that your tension levels are pretty low. If you still can't stop IKs, then try standing. Remember, this stuff requires 150% undivided attention. You cannot be on your phone or listening to stuff except for relaxing music. Even when stimulating you must start off focusing on your PF only, little to no arousal is allowed.

Also make sure you are not rushing your breathing and shortening the duration, slowly inhale until you can't inhale anymore, filling up the lungs entirely. Imagine breathing with your balls. Make sure you are practicing the entire breathing motion, so it overpowers the tense muscles and trains them to move with the breathing (basically breath properly, this will help with the masturbation). Finally, understand that intimacy issues are usually the last symptoms to go when having PF issues, assuming you maintain your routine and healthy habits.

I've started doing my breathing with longer breaths - 2 minutes used to be 24 breaths, now it's only 13 or 14 breaths.

The Ik thing is different to how it used to be. When I first realised I had hypertonic PF I had IK's in a series of spasms that would come one after another, but now it's just one long feeling of an IK. How would standing be any different? Surely when standing the PF would be more tense?

When I wake up each morning my PF feels tighter than it does after stretching.

This is a bit off topic, but I don't know where else I could ask this. About a month ago I was concerned that I had conditioned my penis to only certain masturbation tech issues because I was having issues when using a stroker. However I now think the issue is caused by the fact that my penis is curved upwards (but not significantly enough to be Peyronie's disease). Basically instead of having a pleasurable climax with the stroker it would be overwhelming to my glans in a bad/ non-pleasurable way. Basically what I think was/ is causing the issue is that there's not enough pressure on my frenulum and too much pressure on the top of my glans, as a result of my curved penis. Is this an issue you've heard of before? I'm scared that this will be an issue during sex that would cause me to be unable to have a pleasurable orgasm inside a partner.

[ThatGuy34]

Good, go for that 22min yoga... To be honest, there are some people that do up to 40 total min a day, so you have room if you're not making gains. 2x a day really should be bare minimum until you are symptom free and can maintain that with 1 session/day (1 session is day is a maintenance routine). You will probably need to do yoga for atleast the next year, but really you should do it the rest of your life.
When you masturbate, focus on breathing properly and keeping everything relaxed. With the breathing being done properly in your yoga, it should be easier to maintain that technique during stimulation, also considering that your tension levels are pretty low. If you still can't stop IKs, then try standing. Remember, this stuff requires 150% undivided attention. You cannot be on your phone or listening to stuff except for relaxing music. Even when stimulating you must start off focusing on your PF only, little to no arousal is allowed.

Also make sure you are not rushing your breathing and shortening the duration, slowly inhale until you can't inhale anymore, filling up the lungs entirely. Imagine breathing with your balls. Make sure you are practicing the entire breathing motion, so it overpowers the tense muscles and trains them to move with the breathing (basically breath properly, this will help with the masturbation). Finally, understand that intimacy issues are usually the last symptoms to go when having PF issues, assuming you maintain your routine and healthy habits.

Maybe this is also a PF issue? - when I'm erect my penis doesn't point upwards if I lay on my back. If I lay flat on my back my penis lays down parallel to my body pointing towards my face. It is not very comfortable to push it so that my penis is pointing more towards my feet while erect and I'm laying flat on my back.

[HansTwilight]

The Ik thing is different to how it used to be. When I first realised I had hypertonic PF I had IK's in a series of spasms that would come one after another, but now it's just one long feeling of an IK. How would standing be any different? Surely when standing the PF would be more tense?

This one may actually be subjective. My tension was amplified by sitting down because I would sit an masturbate, so any pressure on the rectum/perineum would cause tension.

Basically what I think was/ is causing the issue is that there's not enough pressure on my frenulum and too much pressure on the top of my glans, as a result of my curved penis.

So sounds like your sensitive glans is causing tension. Yes this is common. Some people would say to desensitize it, but the question is, how desensitized do you want to get. PF stretching and RKs can allow you to avoid this.

Maybe this is also a PF issue? - when I'm erect my penis doesn't point upwards if I lay on my back. If I lay flat on my back my penis lays down parallel to my body pointing towards my face. It is not very comfortable to push it so that my penis is pointing more towards my feet while erect and I'm laying flat on my back.

Where the penis points is usually a genetic factor.

[ThatGuy34]

This one may actually be subjective. My tension was amplified by sitting down because I would sit an masturbate, so any pressure on the rectum/perineum would cause tension.


So sounds like your sensitive glans is causing tension. Yes this is common. Some people would say to desensitize it, but the question is, how desensitized do you want to get. PF stretching and RKs can allow you to avoid this.


Where the penis points is usually a genetic factor.

I don't want to desensitize the glans. I enjoy playing with it, it's just toward the point of orgasm itself that the glans sensitivity becomes an issue.

The majority of the times I've ever masturbated would be when laying flat on my back, then it's probably equal between seating and standing, although I haven't really masturbated standing anymore than a few times in the last 3 years or so.

Also regarding Hindi squats, my ankle mobility isn't good enough to get in Hindi squat position without my heels leaving the floor. So can I do Hindi with a block underneath my heals to remove some stress from my calves?

[HansTwilight]

I don't want to desensitize the glans. I enjoy playing with it, it's just toward the point of orgasm itself that the glans sensitivity becomes an issue.

The majority of the times I've ever masturbated would be when laying flat on my back, then it's probably equal between seating and standing, although I haven't really masturbated standing anymore than a few times in the last 3 years or so.

Also regarding Hindi squats, my ankle mobility isn't good enough to get in Hindi squat position without my heels leaving the floor. So can I do Hindi with a block underneath my heals to remove some stress from my calves?

Try doing hindis with a thick band wrapped around a pole. Wrap the band around yourself so you don't have to hold yourself up with your arms (they will get too tired). You really need to go for that flat footed squat. If you don't have the ankle mobility then you have tight heel coords. Definitely look into that as well,

[ThatGuy34]

Try doing hindis with a thick band wrapped around a pole. Wrap the band around yourself so you don't have to hold yourself up with your arms (they will get too tired). You really need to go for that flat footed squat. If you don't have the ankle mobility then you have tight heel coords. Definitely look into that as well,

My Achilles tendons were either tangled or short (I can't remember which) and I had them both operated on when I was 8 or 9. I can do the squat without using my arms to support me constantly.

[HansTwilight]

My Achilles tendons were either tangled or short (I can't remember which) and I had them both operated on when I was 8 or 9. I can do the squat without using my arms to support me constantly.

Ok good. Just keep your feet flat if you can. Speak to a doctor if you are concerned about keeping your feet flat.

[ThatGuy34]

Ok good. Just keep your feet flat if you can. Speak to a doctor if you are concerned about keeping your feet flat.

Omg I forgot to reply. Thankyou for all your help!

I think my issues are getting less bad because I didn't even have any perineal pain or even discomfort after ejaculating TWICE today, AND doing a lot less stretching than usual last night because I really needed sleep. A month or so ago ejaculating once would cause me to have perineal discomfort for a few hours unless I stretched afterwards.

Hopefully I'll get better soon. I'm doing extra stretching today to make up for the lack of it last night.

[HansTwilight]

Omg I forgot to reply. Thankyou for all your help!

I think my issues are getting less bad because I didn't even have any perineal pain or even discomfort after ejaculating TWICE today, AND doing a lot less stretching than usual last night because I really needed sleep. A month or so ago ejaculating once would cause me to have perineal discomfort for a few hours unless I stretched afterwards.

Hopefully I'll get better soon. I'm doing extra stretching today to make up for the lack of it last night.

Of course, it's what I'm here for
Make sure you keep these exercises and stretching up every day, you will need to do this stuff for a long time to keep the muscles relaxed, as you don't want a relapse. You don't need to do extra stretching to "make up", that can cause overtraining and it won't make up for lost time. That's a common misconception.

[ThatGuy34]

Of course, it's what I'm here for
Make sure you keep these exercises and stretching up every day, you will need to do this stuff for a long time to keep the muscles relaxed, as you don't want a relapse. You don't need to do extra stretching to "make up", that can cause overtraining and it won't make up for lost time. That's a common misconception.

Ah okay then, I won't do the extra stretching.

Perhaps I should actually reduce it a little bit from the 22 minutes? Beforehand I was only doing 10 minutes so 22 could easily be too much, especially on leg training days where I'm doing Hindi squats too. Plus I'll need some room to move into when I get diminishing returns from the current amount of stretching.