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    In january this year i did two jelqing sessions of each 100 strokes + stretching.
    I did not immediately see a decline in EQ.
    But after a couple of weeks things began to change. My penis slowly began to become less flexible and actually started to harden.
    I feel a thickening in my left chamber. Simultaneously my EQ also began to decrease. It's a lot more difficult to get erect now, a lot more manual stimulation is required. I feel i cannot generate the acquired internal pressure because the tissue feels raw. Moreover it takes an incredibly focused mind to stay erect. And when i mean erect, it's still not rockhard and quite bendable. I constantly have to stimulate the head. When i leave it, i'll deflate within 5-10 seconds. Even with the constant stimulation, it sometimes deflates. When i grip the base, i feel it's very weak and i'll deflate within seconds. There never is morning wood.
    One day i took Levitra 10 mg, it got a little bit harder but it was still deflating a bit and i had to keep stimulating.
    I am sure that intercourse is impossible would be impossible because i have no stamina whatsoever.
    My opinion is that i injured my penis, but it took some time for scar tissue to develop, so i am getting the bill right now. I'm afraid my body has somehow reacted with a fibrotic process in order to protect itselve. And it's still getting worse. When penile tissue becomes fibrotic, it becomes less pliable and it cannot efficiently trap the blood (venous leakage).
    I went to an urologist, he manually examined my pecker and said there was nothing wrong. But he doesn't know how my dick felt before the injury. It was flexible and spongy. Now the spongyness has gone and have got a penis that is rubbery with local hardenings. I am very very very worried where this is going to end.

    For the record i have NOTHING to do with Dr. Lin or sXXt like that. I'm just a guy with serious ED questions that wants to get some good advice.

  • #2
    I really can't believe that such a small amount of PE could have done that to you. Either you had a death grip on it at a higher erection level or you aren't saying everything. If you could be more detailed about what you did then it would be very helpful.
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    • #3
      I did not experience any pain during the exercise. Full erection? Certainly not, as i was having trouble keep the blood in during the exercise. I could do max ten jelqs, then i had to masturbate again to have enough blood in it.

      BTW if you tell urologists about jelqing and describe the exercise, they look at you as if you were escaped from a nutt house. It's very difficult to get an objective opinion like that.
      Last edited by Pete28; 05-29-2010, 02:48 PM.

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      • #4
        Well, that makes me think that there is no way that jelqing did this to you. How hard were you pulling when you stretched, and how fast were your jelqs?
        Starting Size (09/2009): ~7"BPEL x ~5" MSEG
        Most Recent Measurement (08/13/2012): 8"BPEL x 5.5"MSEG
        Final Goal: When I'm told to stop.
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        • #5
          Pete, do you use porn a lot?

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          • #6
            The jelqing strokes were quite fast.
            As i tried to keep the blood in.

            I don't use porn a lot, but i trie to get an erection every day (sometimes up to three times a day) to keep the blood flow going because spontaneous erections are non existent.
            Last edited by Pete28; 05-29-2010, 03:18 PM.

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            • #7
              Hmmm, I wish I could help you here... maybe someone else will be able to. To me it seems like you did WAY too little to hurt yourself from PE.
              Starting Size (09/2009): ~7"BPEL x ~5" MSEG
              Most Recent Measurement (08/13/2012): 8"BPEL x 5.5"MSEG
              Final Goal: When I'm told to stop.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pete28 View Post
                In january this year i did two jelqing sessions of each 100 strokes + stretching.
                I did not immediately see a decline in EQ.
                But after a couple of weeks things began to change. My penis slowly began to become less flexible and actually started to harden.
                I feel a thickening in my left chamber. Simultaneously my EQ also began to decrease. It's a lot more difficult to get erect now, a lot more manual stimulation is required. I feel i cannot generate the acquired internal pressure because the tissue feels raw. Moreover it takes an incredibly focused mind to stay erect. And when i mean erect, it's still not rockhard and quite bendable. I constantly have to stimulate the head. When i leave it, i'll deflate within 5-10 seconds. Even with the constant stimulation, it sometimes deflates. When i grip the base, i feel it's very weak and i'll deflate within seconds. There never is morning wood.
                One day i took Levitra 10 mg, it got a little bit harder but it was still deflating a bit and i had to keep stimulating.
                I am sure that intercourse is impossible would be impossible because i have no stamina whatsoever.
                My opinion is that i injured my penis, but it took some time for scar tissue to develop, so i am getting the bill right now. I'm afraid my body has somehow reacted with a fibrotic process in order to protect itselve. And it's still getting worse. When penile tissue becomes fibrotic, it becomes less pliable and it cannot efficiently trap the blood (venous leakage).
                I went to an urologist, he manually examined my pecker and said there was nothing wrong. But he doesn't know how my dick felt before the injury. It was flexible and spongy. Now the spongyness has gone and have got a penis that is rubbery with local hardenings. I am very very very worried where this is going to end.
                Did you do a thorough warm up?

                Did you follow your training up with stamina work?

                Why did you start with 100 reps? When I train men, my usual recommendation is that 100 jelq reps is the MAXIMUM that should be performed for the first few weeks. Most men start with a much lower rep count.

                What kind of stretching did you do?

                What kind of intensity did you use?

                Looking at your previous posts, you seem to have had issues prior to January. It's likely that you aggravated your condition.

                Originally posted by Pete28 View Post
                For the record i have NOTHING to do with Dr. Lin or sXXt like that. I'm just a guy with serious ED questions that wants to get some good advice.
                What's odd about posts like your is that they all seem to have the same theme. Even more odd is your multiple posts on the subject of "PE induced" ED PRIOR to January. That makes the title of your post misleading as you were already suffering from issues prior to jelqing- how can you be assured that jelqing caused your problems and didn't merely aggravate an already existing condition...

                And why, contrary to all of the warnings on this site, would you engage in PE while you're already suffering from ED?
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                • #9
                  Pete,
                  That sounds awful! Can you us some more background?
                  How old are you?
                  What is your overall physical condition?
                  Do you have any health issues?
                  Are you taking any medication or supplements?
                  Anything else that might be a contributing factor? All this from 2 sessions with 100 strokes 4 months ago, doesn't seem reasonable.
                  Are you still seeing the urologist?
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                  • #10
                    Hi Pete28 I think I have simular ED to you but not as servere. The symptons you describe I can relate to. I know what you mean about less spongy penis when flacid mine feels less spongy (harder to stretch it) than before and it does feel more hard when flacid (yet not turtling). I have a theory that maybe SOME of us who injured ourselves stretched too hard and too much, which may of overstretched the erectile chambers resulting in build up of scar tissue in the penis. Hell I have several ideas as to what I did to myself but I guess all that matters really is getting better erections and restoring potency as best as possible.

                    Now I don't know how effective it is or whether it truly works but I have read from other guys with ED that their urologist said that there are treatments to break up or reduce scar tissue in the penis either by a special cream or an injection directly into the penis (which apparently is very painful) this might be worth looking into.

                    I know it sucks having these ED problems I have still have problems myself in this area.

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                    • #11
                      Just remember, before you started peing, you were only masturbating. So you used to only masturbate, until ejaculation; But now your sitting down to do PE with a 50-70% erection. (its a whole different mindset) Dont be surprised if you have re-stimulate yourself to get it back up. I had the same experience, I was noticing it was taking me longer to stimulate to erection while doing PE. Obviously the penis is going to have a much faster response when your in the "fantasy masturbate till ejaculation mindset" as opposed to the get the jelq's over and done with "PE mindset".

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                      • #12
                        Today i had a test known as cavernosography. The doc, a regarderd specialist in male sexual dysfunction, assured me 100% i have no venous leak, nor he saw any penile abnormalities
                        Then I do wonder what's the cause of my ED. It does encourage me a bit that the situation might not be irreversible.


                        Big Al,

                        I will aswer your questions

                        Why did you start with 100 reps? When I train men, my usual recommendation is that 100 jelq reps is the MAXIMUM that should be performed for the first few weeks. Most men start with a much lower rep count.

                        I just started with the 'Jon Pop beginners training routine'

                        Here you can read:

                        Repeat with 50 "Wet Jelqs" and 30 "V" Jelqs.

                        Do a total of 150 "Wet Jelqs" and 90 "V" Jelqs.

                        These are more than 100 reps i think.

                        That makes the title of your post misleading as you were already suffering from issues prior to jelqing- how can you be assured that jelqing caused your problems and didn't merely aggravate an already existing condition...

                        Ok, this could well be the case.

                        And why, contrary to all of the warnings on this site, would you engage in PE while you're already suffering from ED?

                        You should check many posts on this site.
                        Regularly with cases of ED, the advice is given even by senior members to do 'some light jelqs' to improve the situation. There is told it should improve the situation, not worsen it.
                        Last edited by Pete28; 06-01-2010, 12:46 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pete28 View Post
                          Today i had a test known as cavernosography. The doc, a regarderd specialist in male sexual dysfunction, assured me 100% i have no venous leak, nor he saw any penile abnormalities
                          Then I do wonder what's the cause of my ED. It does encourage me a bit that the situation might not be irreversible.
                          There could be a psychological component to it(?) Perhaps stress, medication, supplementation?

                          Originally posted by Pete28 View Post
                          Big Al,

                          I will aswer your questions

                          Why did you start with 100 reps? When I train men, my usual recommendation is that 100 jelq reps is the MAXIMUM that should be performed for the first few weeks. Most men start with a much lower rep count.

                          I just started with the 'Jon Pop beginners training routine'

                          Here you can read:

                          Repeat with 50 "Wet Jelqs" and 30 "V" Jelqs.

                          Do a total of 150 "Wet Jelqs" and 90 "V" Jelqs.

                          These are more than 100 reps i think.
                          Everyone's philosophies on training are different, but I always tell guys to use caution whenever they're trying something new. Whenever I list a prescribed rep scheme, it's usually the recommended maximum and should be worked towards gradually.

                          Originally posted by Pete28 View Post
                          That makes the title of your post misleading as you were already suffering from issues prior to jelqing- how can you be assured that jelqing caused your problems and didn't merely aggravate an already existing condition...

                          Ok, this could well be the case.

                          And why, contrary to all of the warnings on this site, would you engage in PE while you're already suffering from ED?

                          You should check many posts on this site.
                          Regularly with cases of ED, the advice is given even by senior members to do 'some light jelqs' to improve the situation. There is told it should improve the situation, not worsen it.
                          "Light" is a relative term. If you're doing something and it only aggravates your situation, then (if there are no other factors) whatever you're doing is too much. Also, there's a difference between doing something for therapeutic purposes and engaging in enlargement activities. If one has an injury, substantial ED, or other signs of damage/disorder, then it's best to correct the situation before starting any enlargement work.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pirate View Post
                            Pete,
                            That sounds awful! Can you us some more background?
                            How old are you?
                            What is your overall physical condition?
                            Do you have any health issues?
                            Are you taking any medication or supplements?
                            Anything else that might be a contributing factor? All this from 2 sessions with 100 strokes 4 months ago, doesn't seem reasonable.
                            Are you still seeing the urologist?
                            Hi Pete,
                            Could you fill in some of my background questions?
                            Thanks,
                            -Pirate
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                            • #15
                              Just keeping you informed about my condition.
                              I'm taking Cialis 5 mg daily for the past three days. It barely makes any difference.
                              It's extremely 'hard to get hard'. It takes 10 minutes of constant stimulation.
                              Then i never seem to get into the fase of 'full rigidity', even when penis had reached it's full length.
                              The fact the ED-drugs don't work, make me believe this is certainly not psychological but a signs of real vein/tissue damage.
                              There simply is no internal pressure. I was told i don't have venous leak after cavernosogram but i'm doubting on this.
                              I need constant stimulation, when i stop stimulation, i can litterately see the erection go down. I have also lost girth, it does not fill up properly so it cannot expand like it should to press against the valves.
                              I feel there is some sort of scar tissue (not very hard but noticebly)

                              I guess I am screwed for life.
                              Usually when somebody gets injured, you get warning signs of your body and it heals after a couple of days, but i immediately got the full bill. I very deeply regret i ever engaged into PE. I concern it's a very dangerous thing to do. I only followed a beginner's routine so didn't think it would be a dangerous thing to do. I was very naive.

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