ADVICE NEEDED ( Strong uncontrollable kegels, urinating, turtling and more )

**Closed045** · 03-10-2014

As always before I can get some advice I need to provide background information, just like to mention this is the only place where I can get information on this so I really appreciate all replies.

Okay, I am having a few problems with my penis. Firstly I am currently rebooting from porn and avoiding all porn and masturbation, I don't get morning wood and I haven't since I was 16 (I'm almost 19 now) I'm sure that sounds crazy but it was due to the fact I masturbated 3-5 times a week too porn since I was 13-18 . I have previously done 2 months of PESG's routine in winter 2012 where I saw gains but also developed hard flaccid, but here is where the confusion comes in because maybe my penis was just turtling, and I never knew of that term before so thought it was hard flaccid.
So Problem 1 - I don't get morning wood at almost 19 and need to stroke myself to get 60->100% hard and stay hard EVEN when looking at porn , yeah I'm not going back to that.

Problem 2 - Generally every day I will "check" or feel my flaccid to see if it is hard, generally it isn't however sometimes it is, then I just shake it and it goes away. People may say this obsessive like behaviour is what causes this hardness however there have been occasions when I haven't touched my penis and it was hard in the flaccid state, which led to me daily checking the hardness. Have others experienced this? Is it normal? I have never experienced painful hard flaccid.

Problem 3 - I get uncontrollable strong kegels at the end of my urination stream, and during defecation (detailed but hey where else can you post this online and get constructive help). I have read about reverse kegels and tried to reverse kegel to stop it , but that results in just another strong uncontrollable kegel afterwards. This may be due to previously doing loads of kegels for a 2 month period and before I learnt about kegels I used to do them when getting hard and masturbating when I was younger (this still happens to me), I have never done a reverse kegel routine as of right now.

Problem 4 - Penis "turtles" but feels hard in the flaccid state (hard flaccid?) when I wipe my butt even gently. I am not playing with my ass that doesn't turn me on but I would like to know if this is normal, note after I finish up in the bathroom my penis goes back to being normal and not turtling.

NOTE - I have posted about similar issues before (the hard flaccid/ turtling) not the kegel problem and morning wood so I need some advice for all problems please.
If you read all this text thank you and please give me some feedback, all replies are greatly appreciated. PE clearly works so I want to have a healthy penis to do it (One last point, because I never got morning wood before I did 2 months of PE I didn't have it as a PI, in theory when my morning wood returns my penis should be in better shape that it was then.. I do get HAVING TOO PEE WOOD, not true morning wood)

Thanks again

**MrB8** · 03-10-2014

Sorry about your injury.

And I commend you on quitting porn

, it may take some time to detox, but a strong will is definitely going to prevail, and you will reap the benefits of your wise decision.

Balancing your pelvic floor should be of great help, please take a close look at the following links.

Pelvic Floor Balance

Kegels: Only One Piece of the Equation to Strengthen the Pelvic Floor

Yoga Poses for Pelvic Floor Stretching - relax your muscles

Confusion with Reverse Kegels

I'll leave it to the experts to help you with your HF injury, wishing you a speedy recovery.

Good Luck!

**Closed045** · 03-10-2014

Thanks for the solution regarding my kegel issues, need some more views based on the other problems.

**AverageAndAhalf** · 03-10-2014

Sorry to hear your suffering my man...

I've suffered similar problems too, I haven't really got time to go into detail right now as I'll be going to bed soon

Take a look at a thread I posted that might help with some of your problems

https://www.pegym.com/forums/gym/704...tty-potty.html

Also I have same problem with kegleing to finish a pee...I've discovered I can press my PC muscle once or twice instead of flexing it...been doing it every time for approx a week now, so far my PC muscles seem to be very relaxed.

**closed111** · 03-10-2014

Don't know if its a coincidence but I also got HF from PESG's routine 4 weeks into it. Other factors probably contributed to it as well so I shouldn't blame the routine.

**Closed045** · 03-11-2014

Appreciate the feedback, will look into a reverse kegel routine soon and the other links posted by MrBB and Average and a Half.
AverageAndAHalf - Would you mind clarifying what you mean when you say you press your PC muscles instead of flexing it, thanks.

Yeah dam101 during the PESG routine I was masturbating to porn 3-4 times a week which probably affected me getting hard flaccid (still confusion around this though not going to go into detail), however I am just waiting for rock hard morning wood which is lacking because of porn induced erectile dysfunction, I didn't get morning wood before or during the PESG routine because of this I now realise.

Hopefully when that returns I can do PE because if you can urinate fine and get a 10/10 erection fine with no porn/stroking required then your penis in my opinion is fine, so what I have strong involuntary kegels and experience a flaccid that is hard after certain things, gotta solve one problem at a time.

More replies wanted/needed/appreciated

**AverageAndAhalf** · 03-11-2014

soon as you've finished your pee, instead of doing a kegel to expel whats left take your other hand and press the area between your balls and ass hole, the urine will squirt out.

By resting and not using your PC muscle for a while, it in my case became relaxed enough to start a kegle regime again.