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  • Difference Between HF and Torn Buck's Fascia

    Hey guys,

    First thread but I've been reading this forum for the longest time. (years)

    I have suffered the "torn fascia" ordeal and the full rupture took the toll of roughly 5 years. My penis had the hourglass shape as of 3 days ago. I wanted to share what I believe is the difference between HF and torn buck's fascia because I see people bickering back and fourth about what it really is and how to fix it.

    Torn buck's fascia resembles HF because when the fascia is torn, the blood escapes the corpus cavernosum (CC) leaving it drained and hardened. Hard flaccid is when there is a limited amount of blood that goes into the CC, leaving it drained and hardened. The problem arises is when people claim that a hardened CC can all be fixed by strectching and relaxation, which will help blood flow into the CC.

    I used to try jelqing, but I never realized when my penis was injured, I just thought the curve in my penis was just how it naturally is. When I torn my fascia, it was only torn on the left side so only the left side was indented. Now that was years ago.

    Fast forward to the present after I read HF Unraveled and the theories of torn fascia. I believed my torn fascia was Obitoo's explaination of HF, so I started stretching. Three days ago, I was doing garland pose focusing on opening my pelvic region, I stood up and looked down at my penis because it felt weird. The right side of my penis had an identical indentation at the same length of the left side. It all made sense to me when that happened, stretching my groin pulled on the already torn fascia into a full tear. My buck's fascia is tightly wrapped around the CC at the indentation currently and the region below the indentation doesn't fill the CC with blood, but rather balloons the penis with blood that escaped the CC.

    My goal of this thread is to separate the confusion with HF and TBF. With HF, you would have a constant hard, cold flaccid, but with TBF, you have a hard flaccid that still feels plump, almost like a jelly-like flaccid penis with a hard "core".

    I know the tear can heal IF IT IS NOT A FULL TEAR. I did a discipline regime where I did not touch my penis or look at provocative images at all during the time of my half tear. Roughly 3 weeks of that and my penis was back to normal, in the sense that it started to stand up by itself, strong, and full. I messed up by masturbating by the next day, which probably ripped the tear again. I saw somewhere that fascia needs about 3 months of rest to fully heal to near intact strength, but if there is a full hourglass shape of the penis (which indicates a full tear) surgery would probably be the only option.

    My main takeaways:

    1. HF and TBF needs to be separated into two different problems.
    2. Indentations of the penis is either caused by a ripped fascia or Peyronie's.
    3. A partially torn fascia can heal by itself by not touching it, avoiding erections, and cold showers to shrink the space between the tear. (what I did during the discipline regime)

    Please do not try to treat everyone with stretching/yoga unless they know FOR SURE they have HF, relaxation definitely helps though. Remember, the MAIN difference between HF and TBF is the quality of the flaccid: Is the whole penis cold and hard while flaccid (HF) or is it jelly-like with a hard core (TBF)?

    Please put this somewhere where many people can see it. I wish I saw this before fully tearing mine, would have been healing/healed by now... The misinformation is what caused me to take incorrect action. Jelqing during puberty is probably what causes the tear because the fascia is already stretching from your growth spurt, manual stretching could overdo it. You should probably be 21 or older before trying this jelqing stuff to give the fascia a good amount of time to repair from the growth spurt. I mean... don't you think it's more than a coincidence that only people who try this PE stuff get torn fascia?

    By the way: there is a pornstar by the name of "Rocney Dangerfield" and it looks like he has the same exact issue of torn fascia (torn at the base). I guess it is still possible to have a good sex life after this tear, but you need things like cock rings and whatnot to keep an erection going.

  • #2
    Really interesting thread. I am not expert PE, but think pulling a hard flaccid penis is a big mistake.

    You wrote you did not realize the injury, but how hard did you stretch when you tore your fascia for the first time? Or how was the training?

    Unfortunately this torn fascia "myth" seems real...
    I hope you will get better soon!
    Last edited by hectol; 09-21-2015, 09:32 AM.

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    • #3
      And who diagnosed the torn fascia?
      The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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      • #4
        @hectol I don't remember if I did anything too insane, but I didn't keep close watch on my stuff back then.

        @cusp82 I'm going to a urologist Friday. This is all introspection. I saw how you guys mauled that major Wang guy and I understand I'm not a doctor.

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        • #5
          Not mauled. He said something that is extremely rare and before we have others running around saying they have the same thing and the oh woe is me that goes with it I think for all that it would be best to see if it was diagnosed by a doctor. Yes I know the docs know nothing but I bet you they know more than anyone here.
          The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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          • #6
            Please report back asap

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            • #7
              @Night flyer
              After reading your post I would have bet that you must be a doctor with all your outstanding insights. Then you've suddenly mentioned that you are no doctor at all. This really devastated me, considering your great knowledge on this topic. Can't we at least award you with a doctor honoris causa?

              *facepalm*

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              • #8
                And my mauling begins now.

                If I truly had HF, why did my condition get far worse after stretching?

                But yes, I will report back, but I don't think I will get much based off past people's experience.

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                • #9
                  I don't see a mauling do you?
                  The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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                  • #10
                    I do not think this topic bullshit, but i visited an urologist last week(with HF), and mentioned him what if i tore something in my penis during streching. He responded it will heal, even a broken penis can heal...
                    and also suggested to stop reading about these..

                    Can not you maintain erection?

                    Seriously, even if this fascia thing is real, why doctors do not know it? Or would it be a "newborn" issue?
                    Last edited by hectol; 09-21-2015, 11:43 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Because it is so uncommon that it's not a big interest to them.
                      The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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                      • #12
                        so are you saying over extended flaccid is caused by torn bucks fascia? also what if you penis fluctuates from hard flaccid to larger softer hard flaccid.


                        Also are you getting your sources for these claims? just your opinion?

                        also not mauling you. Im also trying to figure out wtf is going on.

                        i have a super small indent on the upper left side of my penis but sometimes is filled in? could that be a tear or just an area that not fully filling.

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                        • #13
                          @terry947 this is from observing the changes it's been going through and reading lots of articles + this forum. I'd post links, but it would be repetitive to all the other HF/torn fascia threads. I'd say a tear since it's not chronically indented, I'd take a long rest if I were you (couple months) if you want to be absolutely safe. My indentation got worse with a deepening indent to the point of curvature, rest now for minimal damage.

                          I've also developed some dribbling after peeing which supports my view because the indentation where the fascia ends up would constrict the urethra. Possibly even retrograde ejaculation... I'll bring that up with the urologist. I actually remember before the full tear, my pee stream started to look different, I thought it was because the stretches were working... I'm starting to wonder just how "rarely" this happens to people.

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                          • #14
                            The indentation is normal because your penis is in a state of contraction. All kinds of anomalies appear on the penis when this contraction is taking place. An indentation is typically caused by a cramped ischio on the side which is affected. See this picture:
                            https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...2e763e9d85.jpg

                            Also, the so called tear you are feeling is probably just the ischio where it meets up with the soft tissue.

                            Every symptom listed so far, including the dribbling, is pretty much on par for a tight pelvic floor with cramped ischio muscles. Stop seeing this as some exotic disease. The paranoia and search for some exotic disease to explain this issue is actually just another symptom which is quite common with hard flaccid.

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                            • #15
                              Can you explain why my condition got worse after garland pose? (Which is supposed to stretch those frontal muscles)

                              Why is the curve gone and everything below the indent doesn't get erect, but everything above it does?

                              How can 1 minute of stretching cause my other ischo muscle to permanently become tense with no pain?

                              Why is my flaccid still filling up with blood but the core is still hard, sometimes only semi hard?

                              *Why do you think it's impossible for your buck's fascia to tear?*

                              I can't stand by the classical hf remedies because following them has made my condition worse.

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