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  • Is Peyronie's disease or something similar possible on the underside of the penis?

    Hey there, I have a question surrounding my penis which I haven't come across before. My penis is bent quite downwards in erect state, and it seems that from the perspective of looking at my penis from beneath, from the middle of the base to the glans the big tube/vein that runs there goes inward as it reaches the top as if it is pinched or partly constricted at that area. This vein/tube is named the Corpus Spongiosum in this anatomy picture:

    https://www.pegym.com/forums/attachm...id=83068&stc=1

    Could it be that scar tissue has settled here, on the underside of the penis? As normally from what I have seen on the internet, it only appears on the top of the penis. Also, could this affect the ability to maintain an erection because it is constricting blood flow somehow? As this i an issue I deal with at this moment. I have always worn my flaccid bent downwards in my underwear as a kid, so this could perhaps have caused it.. Sometimes, when it goes from flaccid to 20% erect, I see the typical hour glass shape as if an invisible rubber band is in the middle, constricting it. This however is not always the case with 20% erect or any other erect state. Also, it goes away once I get more erected to become the erection I described above at 100% which is bent downwards with partial constriction so it seems on the underside from mid-base to frenulum/glans. Also, the first time I have seen this hour glass shape was at the age of 19 (now 21) when I had sex on a frequent basis, and before that time my penis shape was exactly the same while fully erect, and I did not have any hour glass while flaccid so the 2 might be unrelated to eachother.

    Your opinions and advice are most valued!
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  • #2
    Hey Nikitis!

    Unfortunately, I am currently unable to view attachment Vidios so I cannot fully comprehend your issue. However, from your description, I do not "see" any troublesome issue. Each guy's penis takes on a different shape and yours is not radically different. The CS starts to taper off as it enters the glans so I don't think that should be of concern.

    If you are able to achieve a strong erection, I would not worry about its shape.
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    • #3
      Nikitis,

      Have you read this --

      What is Peyronie’s Disease? Learn How to Cure a Bent Penis

      Scar tissue causing Peyronie's can cause on any side of the penis, not just the top. The location of the plaque is what causes the direction of the bend.

      Please read the above and let us know if you have any other questions.
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      • #4
        Have you ever been examined for hypospadias. This particular issue functions along a spectrum, so one might have it and not notice anything apart from some mild irregularities.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Big Al View Post
          Have you ever been examined for hypospadias. This particular issue functions along a spectrum, so one might have it and not notice anything apart from some mild irregularities.
          I have never heard of hypospadias before, but I had some check ups in my life at several doctors where they also checked my penis, and all was well each and every one of them said concerning my penis. From what I can observe my urethra ends on the top of my glans, perhaps on first sight a little too much towards the top, but this could be natural. I have a thick foreskin though (uncircimcised) and when i retract it my frenulum is always white, and while erect it seems to be on the border of too tight and normal although my glans is not emphaticly pulled downwards. The upper part of my shaft including the head is slightly tilted downwards though when fully erect, also giving this slight heavy feeling as if it is pulled downwards while standing up even though this could be my imagination.

          The CS as abbreviated above already tapers in fully at around 4 centimeters beneath the glans on the underside of my penis and exactly here is also where the curve starts although this curve is really really mild, not that much notable but certainly there. The shaft starts thinning at the dent where the CS is fully gone inwards in the shaft.

          I have read the article on Peyronie's disease and are well aware I could have it, and that PE could work for it thats one of the reasons I am here!

          Also, sometimes erections feel painful around the shaft, most notably when I bent my full erection up and downwards or to the left and right from the base. And I sometimes have the idea the situation of the CS, which tapers in completely 4-5 cm from the tip of my penis, because of constriction or something else, could be the reason I have troubles sometimes maintaining a full erection, aswell as reaching a full erection.
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          Last edited by Excellator; 03-03-2016, 09:37 AM.

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          • #6
            (Sorry for dp/bumping, there is no edit option on the forum on the mobile version)

            Also perhaps a small but interesting detail, i've taken Cialis around 4 times in my lifetime and once I had an erection where the CS somehow did not taper off at that point but instead was more engorged towards the tip of my penis, and also the length of my whole penis seemed longer by approx. an inch. I have never reached such an erection naturally. Ofcourse this could have been coincedence or slightly illusion, as back then I did not check fully as to how my penis looked nor did I take measurements. The length was really bigger though to some extent, and the tip of my glans seemed a little smaller, as if the blood spread out more resulting in more length of my total erection.

            Edit 3-3-2016

            Yesterday I have succesfully jelqed together with the JP90 routine and today I took a proper look at my morning wood, and now I can properly see what's going on.

            The CS has a dent around 11cm upwards from the base, and it does not really recover that much in thickness after this dent. Do you guys know what this could be? EQ was really good by the way!
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            Last edited by Excellator; 03-03-2016, 09:31 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nikitis View Post
              (Sorry for dp/bumping, there is no edit option on the forum on the mobile version)

              Also perhaps a small but interesting detail, i've taken Cialis around 4 times in my lifetime and once I had an erection where the CS somehow did not taper off at that point but instead was more engorged towards the tip of my penis, and also the length of my whole penis seemed longer by approx. an inch. I have never reached such an erection naturally. Ofcourse this could have been coincedence or slightly illusion, as back then I did not check fully as to how my penis looked nor did I take measurements. The length was really bigger though to some extent, and the tip of my glans seemed a little smaller, as if the blood spread out more resulting in more length of my total erection.

              Edit 3-3-2016

              Yesterday I have succesfully jelqed together with the JP90 routine and today I took a proper look at my morning wood, and now I can properly see what's going on.

              The CS has a dent around 11cm upwards from the base, and it does not really recover that much in thickness after this dent. Do you guys know what this could be? EQ was really good by the way!
              The penis isn't a perfectly smooth organ- there are "ribs" along the shaft that might appear more pronounced as your penis becomes more conditioned. If you have something that appears to be an actual anomaly, all anyone at the forum can do is speculate. While a dent could be considered a symptom of Peyronie's, it doesn't automatically mean that you have it.
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              • #8
                I did some searching for similar "ribs" as you speak of Al, but from the pictures I have seen my case is really different I think. I will upload a photo in a hour once I get home, so you or others here with experience can judge!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nikitis View Post
                  I did some searching for similar "ribs" as you speak of Al, but from the pictures I have seen my case is really different I think. I will upload a photo in a hour once I get home, so you or others here with experience can judge!
                  It's understandable your wanting some clarity on this, and your confidence in us is greatly appreciated, but even with a detailed pic none of us will be able to tell you with any certainty what the issue might be. For that, a proper medical check up will be needed.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Big Al View Post
                    It's understandable your wanting some clarity on this, and your confidence in us is greatly appreciated, but even with a detailed pic none of us will be able to tell you with any certainty what the issue might be. For that, a proper medical check up will be needed.
                    Hmm, well we could wait with the photo perhaps. Yesterday I purchased a Fleshlight STU, along with fleshlight lubricant which contains magnesiumchloride and I tested it out to see what my erection would do, as I wouldn't get the chance to check this out by simply masturbating. The lube felt a bit burning on my penis, but I ignored that and still did properly maintain an erection.

                    One thing though that I observed was while thrusting, the shaft was not fully hard/engorged as it is normally when I use my hand for masturbation. Even though I was fully stimulated physically. It is something I remember having felt a long time ago with real sex aswell.

                    When I pulled it out to check it out, while still hard and being completely relaxed and having no tightened pelvic floor muscles, I touched the shaft from above to see if it was hard, and it felt a bit soft! Also the head felt and looked a bit on the soft side. When I held a kegel it would harden a bit, towards 100% EQ.

                    The erection as a whole was really firm though and did not subside which it usually does with hand masturbation. Is this normal, for the glans and the shaft to be a bit soft with supposed (toy) intercourse? I had no real visual stimulation other then the Fleshlight.

                    Also, what was really scary, at the begin my glans got 80% engorged while my shaft lagged behind and was still flaccid. this made it look as if it got into this knot it couldn't get out of, but with some proper jelq-like soft stimulation by hand I got the whole thing engorged, and full. This symptom usually only happens in this extremity when I have stayed up a whole night, and being in a cold room/feeling cold which were both the case when this happens so I don't get startled that fast about it.

                    This what I describe above, together with the dent and the slight curve beneath the frenulum, are the only symptoms I can tie together with Peyronie's disease. As well perhaps with the 80/90% engorged penis head and shaft with intercourse (although no visual stimatulation was there and a Fleshlight was used).

                    What are your thoughts on this?

                    Oh and P.S. I can positively report that even though these (mild) problems (if they're mild or not I am not sure; reason I am asking) that I have, I did the JP 90 routine for about a week now, 2 on 1 off, and have booked some nice progress! Girth increased a bit, and around 0.2 inch length aswell. My penis is starting to look a bit rounder and firmer, and also longer from beneath view which is great!
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                    Last edited by Excellator; 03-11-2016, 08:46 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nikitis View Post
                      Hmm, well we could wait with the photo perhaps. Yesterday I purchased a Fleshlight STU, along with fleshlight lubricant which contains magnesiumchloride and I tested it out to see what my erection would do, as I wouldn't get the chance to check this out by simply masturbating. The lube felt a bit burning on my penis, but I ignored that and still did properly maintain an erection.

                      One thing though that I observed was while thrusting, the shaft was not fully hard/engorged as it is normally when I use my hand for masturbation. Even though I was fully stimulated physically. It is something I remember having felt a long time ago with real sex aswell.

                      When I pulled it out to check it out, while still hard and being completely relaxed and having no tightened pelvic floor muscles, I touched the shaft from above to see if it was hard, and it felt a bit soft! Also the head felt and looked a bit on the soft side. When I held a kegel it would harden a bit, towards 100% EQ.

                      The erection as a whole was really firm though and did not subside which it usually does with hand masturbation. Is this normal, for the glans and the shaft to be a bit soft with supposed (toy) intercourse? I had no real visual stimulation other then the Fleshlight.

                      Also, what was really scary, at the begin my glans got 80% engorged while my shaft lagged behind and was still flaccid. this made it look as if it got into this knot it couldn't get out of, but with some proper jelq-like soft stimulation by hand I got the whole thing engorged, and full. This symptom usually only happens in this extremity when I have stayed up a whole night, and being in a cold room/feeling cold which were both the case when this happens so I don't get startled that fast about it.

                      This what I describe above, together with the dent and the slight curve beneath the frenulum, are the only symptoms I can tie together with Peyronie's disease. As well perhaps with the 80/90% engorged penis head and shaft with intercourse (although no visual stimatulation was there and a Fleshlight was used).

                      What are your thoughts on this?

                      Oh and P.S. I can positively report that even though these (mild) problems (if they're mild or not I am not sure; reason I am asking) that I have, I did the JP 90 routine for about a week now, 2 on 1 off, and have booked some nice progress! Girth increased a bit, and around 0.2 inch length aswell. My penis is starting to look a bit rounder and firmer, and also longer from beneath view which is great!
                      I think you might be fixating on minutiae. You can't expect your penis to be 100% when A) you're constantly inspecting it for defects which, in all honesty, don't appear to exist, and B) even the best of us have erections which fluctuate slightly during performance.

                      Also, you can't expect yourself to start trying a new technique without at least some slight degree of apprehension- it's a normal human trait to have some degree of concern over engaging in something new [sexually]- like the device you mentioned.

                      If the doctors you've seen have told you your penis is fine but you still suspect something's wring, then go see a specialist. In all honestly, nothing you've described appears to be out of the norm for variations, and if your fixation on the idea that there's something wrong with your penis persists, it might become something in an of itself.
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                      • #12
                        Thanks Big Al, you're the real MVP! I can honestly say I feel comforted after your words

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nikitis View Post
                          Thanks Big Al, you're the real MVP! I can honestly say I feel comforted after your words
                          Thank you for your kind words
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                          • #14
                            Well after a long time of absence, I am back, and am still worried about if this could be a possible abnormality which is causing problems for my erection quality.. Could anyone elaborate on the photos below? I have put arrows aiming at the indentation I spoke of before in this thread. In one photo, there is a red and a green arrow, with the green arrow pointing at the Corpus Spongiosum and the red arrow pointing at the indentation.

                            Photo of my penis with the red arrow pointing at the indentation. Note the downwards bent after this indentation. Erection was around 85% on this photo:
                            https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...mystufff5.html

                            A close up of my penis, which shows where the Corpus Spongiosum tapers in, way before the glans. The red arrow points at where this happens. Erection was around 90% in this photo:
                            https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...mystufff4.html

                            Here my erection is about 45%, and I hold the upper side of my penis, which normally is curved downward, up, and the indentation is again not hard to see. The red arrow points at it.
                            https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...mystufff3.html

                            In this photo my erection is about 35% but the typical curve of my penis after the indentation spot is good to see in this photo. The red arrow points at the indentation. Is this Peyronies?
                            https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...mystufff2.html

                            In this photo the green arrow points at the obvious expanded/engorged Corpus Spongiosum, with the red arrow pointing at the indentation of where this expansion of the Corpus Spongiosum seems to dissapear. This photo really shows the issue with my penis. Erection is about 80%. Note the deflated glans:
                            https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...-mystufff.html

                            I have noticed lately that my glans is only fully engorged and shiny when I am really aroused with porn I like for example. Although I don't watch porn at all.

                            Also, I have a varicocele in my left testicle which has been there for a while now and hurts on occasion, and which is probably lowering my total testosterone I highly suspect. I'm still visiting a high quality urologist for it soon to get it removed.

                            I was thinking of using a VED for this indentation issue of mine. It seems my glans and partial corpus spongiosum aren't engorging right at all when fully erect and I hope long term VED use could fix this. Also I have noticed that without a female with me, I find it hard to maintain an erection for longer than 10 seconds, as many times my penis already deflates after 3 seconds of not stimulating it. Also I feel that the pain in my scrotum of the varicocele plays a role. But maintaining an erection without a female seems really hard and unless really aroused, my penis deflates in 4 seconds.. Also the glans only becomes shiny and not wrinkled, when I am really aroused, by porn I like for example.

                            Also an urologist has only examined my penis in a complete flaccid state, and never in erect state as I never visited one purely for this concern regarding the indentation.

                            Please elaborate people!
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                            Last edited by Excellator; 09-13-2016, 08:50 PM.

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                            • #15
                              You're paranoid, that little dent is nothing to worry about.

                              Dude you won't be super hard all the time, wait to you get to 40. You seem to be looking for a 10 EQ all the time and that's just not going to happen.

                              Just of interest have you gained any length or girth since March?
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