Compression Hanging vs Vacuum Hanging

[LuisFernandez Member Find all posts View Profile Close LuisFernandez]

All,

I'm currently using my lghanger to hang 6 pounds. I really like it and it's very comfortable. However, it seems that historically compression hanging is proven to be successful. I've already gained about .80 of an inch (mainly with restorex.) I'm at 7.80" BPEL and my ultimate goal is 9" NBPEL.

I'm trying to think through my strategy for gaining 1.50" over the next year or so. I've been hanging for about 2 months and i'm going very slow - i'm only at 6 pounds so far.

So, i've been thinking a lot about the mechanics of compression vs vacuum hanging. It seems to be that i want to deform the corpus cavernosum chambers so that my erect length is affected. My urologist explained that the penis is like a bicycle tire. You have the outer layer (tunica) and the inner layer (smooth muscle?)

My concern with vacuum based hanging is that i'm mainly pulling on the septum and not really affecting the inner layer due to the anatomy of the "bicycle tire" form of the penis.

It seems to me, that based on common sense, compression hanging will pull on both the outer layer AND the inner layer. If i only pull on the outer layer then there's a chance that the CC does not expand to match the tunica. It may even cause a venous leak because now the outer layer of the tire will be too large for the inner layer to compress against and hold blood for an erection.

Also, it seems that if you pull on the outer layer too hard then you can even 'detach' your outer layer from your inner layer - eg detach your glans from your cavernosum.

With compression hanging, it seems that i do not have to worry about the inner layer. This is because i am compressing on both layers and pull on them. This erect length of the inner layer should match the outer layer.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? People like Kingsnake made most of their gains with compression hanging. Totalman does not even recommend vacuum hanging as he mentions on his videos. Compression hanging seems to simply be more 'proven.'

Let me know any thoughts. As of now i'm heavily considering to switch to compression hanging. I've got the technique down and have done it before, but vacuum hanging is just way more comfortable. Plus i can just leave on the taping and wrap and do a VED session and then jump to my vacuum ADS right after - so it's super conveninent.

Let me know any thoughts, opinions, and results about my train of thought.

Thanks.

[Party Senior Member Member of the Month August 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Party]

I always try to hang in a way to affect the inner penis. IE, bent over a bit, etc. The way an erection would angle.

[Cavalier Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Feb 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Cavalier]

I have hung with both a compression hanger and the LG vacuum hanger and I can tell you that the LG grips and pulls on everything just as well, if not better, as a compression hanger. A good vacuum hanger will have a chamber deep enough for the sleeve to grip the shaft. Shallow chambers tend to pull on the glans too much.

The smooth muscle is soft, pliable and sponge like and really isn't affected much by stretching or hanging. To help grow the smooth muscle it must be expanded from within with some exercises such as jelqing. Some of what I'm saying is explained in this thread.
FOCUS YOUR PE & GAIN! TGC Theory Explained! - PEGym ...


www.pegym.com › forums › pe-theory-science-forum

Here are a couple of other good articles.

Penis Creep & Its Scientific Implications

The Precise Mechanism of the Penis Enlargement Response ... - PEGym

[duude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close duude]

I have hung with both a compression hanger and the LG vacuum hanger and I can tell you that the LG grips and pulls on everything just as well, if not better, as a compression hanger. A good vacuum hanger will have a chamber deep enough for the sleeve to grip the shaft. Shallow chambers tend to pull on the glans too much.

The smooth muscle is soft, pliable and sponge like and really isn't affected much by stretching or hanging. To help grow the smooth muscle it must be expanded from within with some exercises such as jelqing. Some of what I'm saying is explained in this thread.
FOCUS YOUR PE & GAIN! TGC Theory Explained! - PEGym ...


www.pegym.com › forums › pe-theory-science-forum

Here are a couple of other good articles.

Penis Creep & Its Scientific Implications

The Precise Mechanism of the Penis Enlargement Response ... - PEGym

I second this! Great answer by the way.

@Luis Fernandez, I think that the TGC Theory thread is a great place to understand the tunica and smooth muscle.

[Marlon LGHanger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Marlon LGHanger]

All,

I'm currently using my lghanger to hang 6 pounds. I really like it and it's very comfortable. However, it seems that historically compression hanging is proven to be successful. I've already gained about .80 of an inch (mainly with restorex.) I'm at 7.80" BPEL and my ultimate goal is 9" NBPEL.

I'm trying to think through my strategy for gaining 1.50" over the next year or so. I've been hanging for about 2 months and i'm going very slow - i'm only at 6 pounds so far.

So, i've been thinking a lot about the mechanics of compression vs vacuum hanging. It seems to be that i want to deform the corpus cavernosum chambers so that my erect length is affected. My urologist explained that the penis is like a bicycle tire. You have the outer layer (tunica) and the inner layer (smooth muscle?)

My concern with vacuum based hanging is that i'm mainly pulling on the septum and not really affecting the inner layer due to the anatomy of the "bicycle tire" form of the penis.

It seems to me, that based on common sense, compression hanging will pull on both the outer layer AND the inner layer. If i only pull on the outer layer then there's a chance that the CC does not expand to match the tunica. It may even cause a venous leak because now the outer layer of the tire will be too large for the inner layer to compress against and hold blood for an erection.

Also, it seems that if you pull on the outer layer too hard then you can even 'detach' your outer layer from your inner layer - eg detach your glans from your cavernosum.

With compression hanging, it seems that i do not have to worry about the inner layer. This is because i am compressing on both layers and pull on them. This erect length of the inner layer should match the outer layer.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? People like Kingsnake made most of their gains with compression hanging. Totalman does not even recommend vacuum hanging as he mentions on his videos. Compression hanging seems to simply be more 'proven.'

Let me know any thoughts. As of now i'm heavily considering to switch to compression hanging. I've got the technique down and have done it before, but vacuum hanging is just way more comfortable. Plus i can just leave on the taping and wrap and do a VED session and then jump to my vacuum ADS right after - so it's super conveninent.

Let me know any thoughts, opinions, and results about my train of thought.

Thanks.

First and foremost, KingSnake did not make all his gains using a compression clamp. In fact he just like Dr. Ric moved away from compression clamp hanging because of the temporary nerve damage and ED it caused.
Secondly - if you want to target the Tunica, nothing is more effective than Bundle hanging with the LG Hanger. Don't believe me? Look at the KingSnake video attached. Scroll down to bottom of page....

L.G. Hanger, LLC: Search results for kingsnake bundle

Compression hanging can be effective, however the negative side effects outweigh the benefits. I've gone over this countless times, listing the pros & cons, or positive attributes vs. negative traits. Along with that there's a huge learning curve that most guys can't overcome because of the pain and discomfort a clamp produces.

I have yet to hear anyone explain to me how you can stretch the portion of your penis trapped in a clamp that's 2" - 2 1/2" long / wide. Anyone can do a simple test to prove this.

As for TotalMan .... he hasn't been around all that long! He's come to the game late. He's made several video's using our devices and when he made them he pronounced them "the BEST". I can post all of them if you like. What TotalMan has become is a marketeer... he's out to make a fast buck by selling junk he's getting made in China.

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I have hung with both a compression hanger and the LG vacuum hanger and I can tell you that the LG grips and pulls on everything just as well, if not better, as a compression hanger. A good vacuum hanger will have a chamber deep enough for the sleeve to grip the shaft. Shallow chambers tend to pull on the glans too much.

The smooth muscle is soft, pliable and sponge like and really isn't affected much by stretching or hanging. To help grow the smooth muscle it must be expanded from within with some exercises such as jelqing. Some of what I'm saying is explained in this thread.
FOCUS YOUR PE & GAIN! TGC Theory Explained! - PEGym ...


www.pegym.com › forums › pe-theory-science-forum

Here are a couple of other good articles.

Penis Creep & Its Scientific Implications

The Precise Mechanism of the Penis Enlargement Response ... - PEGym

Cavalier is spot on.

I own both types and after making gains with manual stretching an pumping, then going to compression hanging I then made even more gains with the LG Hanger.

The LG will apply force to all of the penis. I believe the LG Hanger to be the best of all hangers I have used thus far.

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Just to give more insight, I have 5 different hangers, the LG is by far my favorite

[hulkman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hulkman]

All,

I'm currently using my lghanger to hang 6 pounds. I really like it and it's very comfortable. However, it seems that historically compression hanging is proven to be successful. I've already gained about .80 of an inch (mainly with restorex.) I'm at 7.80" BPEL and my ultimate goal is 9" NBPEL.

I'm trying to think through my strategy for gaining 1.50" over the next year or so. I've been hanging for about 2 months and i'm going very slow - i'm only at 6 pounds so far.

So, i've been thinking a lot about the mechanics of compression vs vacuum hanging. It seems to be that i want to deform the corpus cavernosum chambers so that my erect length is affected. My urologist explained that the penis is like a bicycle tire. You have the outer layer (tunica) and the inner layer (smooth muscle?)

My concern with vacuum based hanging is that i'm mainly pulling on the septum and not really affecting the inner layer due to the anatomy of the "bicycle tire" form of the penis.

It seems to me, that based on common sense, compression hanging will pull on both the outer layer AND the inner layer. If i only pull on the outer layer then there's a chance that the CC does not expand to match the tunica. It may even cause a venous leak because now the outer layer of the tire will be too large for the inner layer to compress against and hold blood for an erection.

Also, it seems that if you pull on the outer layer too hard then you can even 'detach' your outer layer from your inner layer - eg detach your glans from your cavernosum.

With compression hanging, it seems that i do not have to worry about the inner layer. This is because i am compressing on both layers and pull on them. This erect length of the inner layer should match the outer layer.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? People like Kingsnake made most of their gains with compression hanging. Totalman does not even recommend vacuum hanging as he mentions on his videos. Compression hanging seems to simply be more 'proven.'

Let me know any thoughts. As of now i'm heavily considering to switch to compression hanging. I've got the technique down and have done it before, but vacuum hanging is just way more comfortable. Plus i can just leave on the taping and wrap and do a VED session and then jump to my vacuum ADS right after - so it's super conveninent.

Let me know any thoughts, opinions, and results about my train of thought.

Thanks.

I think I have detached my glans from using the lg hanger. Whatever it has done to me is a horrific feeling Every day. My skin is over my glans and I turtle 24/7. When I go to pull out my glans it feels only mushy and like there’s something missing or detached. I regret ever vaccum hanging. Only letting you know my experience

[Marlon LGHanger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Marlon LGHanger]

I think I have detached my glans from using the lg hanger. Whatever it has done to me is a horrific feeling Every day. My skin is over my glans and I turtle 24/7. When I go to pull out my glans it feels only mushy and like there’s something missing or detached. I regret ever vaccum hanging. Only letting you know my experience

Disinformation! I've reviewed your post history going back over a year, and you were complaining of the same problem long before you started using the LG Hanger. You're not being truthful, you've been doing PE with other devices that may have caused or contributed to your problems.

I've repeatedly reached out to you via PM with advice, along with suggestions here on the open forum.
You've stated you've sought the opinion and advice of your doctor and you didn't heed his / her advice, and you kept doing PE even when you were told to stop.

[MJN13 Member Find all posts View Profile Close MJN13]

So, as you can probably tell, you might get attacked depending on what personal experience you list on this forum...

That being said, you are spot on about Mike at Total Man saying that compression hanging is what he has used to make gains. He uses vacuum hanger types after he reaches fatigue with a compression hanger. I would encourage/challenge anybody to contact him directly and post his response on this forum...

When I got above 10 lbs with a vacuum hanger, I had a horrible time avoiding blisters. I followed the protocol, hanging two hours a day and only increasing a pound a week. I tried multi wrapping, the shoelace technique, and using gauze under the wrap as well. It was really annoying and I became primarily focused on not getting a blister instead of reaching fatigue. The main disadvantage of vacuum hanging is that your glans strength/toughness/conditioning must always be ahead of whatever weight you are trying to hang, regardless if that weight gives you fatigue or not.

I've made the switch to compression hanging for now. It's looking good so far.

[Marlon LGHanger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Marlon LGHanger]

So, as you can probably tell, you might get attacked depending on what personal experience you list on this forum...

That being said, you are spot on about Mike at Total Man saying that compression hanging is what he has used to make gains. He uses vacuum hanger types after he reaches fatigue with a compression hanger. I would encourage/challenge anybody to contact him directly and post his response on this forum...

When I got above 10 lbs with a vacuum hanger, I had a horrible time avoiding blisters. I followed the protocol, hanging two hours a day and only increasing a pound a week. I tried multi wrapping, the shoelace technique, and using gauze under the wrap as well. It was really annoying and I became primarily focused on not getting a blister instead of reaching fatigue. The main disadvantage of vacuum hanging is that your glans strength/toughness/conditioning must always be ahead of whatever weight you are trying to hang, regardless if that weight gives you fatigue or not.

I've made the switch to compression hanging for now. It's looking good so far.

I don't know if you've ever read my blog article on how to avoid blisters? I've posted it several times, but here it is again if you haven't read it. I've been hanging for 10 years and haven't got a blister for over 7 years! Follow my advice and you'll never get one again. If you have a LG Hanger and you're getting blisters, then you are not using it correctly, and if you want help overcoming the blister issue contact me directly via PM or email and I will coach you through the process of never getting a blister again.

As for Mike @ TotalMan - he doesn't know how to properly hang. His advice is not very good, and I've told him this personally when he decided he was going to deviate from our LG Hanger instructions. What amuses me is that he has preached "safety" in all most all his videos, which I totally agree with, yet he turns around and endorses a device that the vast majority of men can't effectively use and is far from being safe.

L.G. Hanger, LLC: Search results for blisters

[Marlon LGHanger Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Marlon LGHanger]

So, as you can probably tell, you might get attacked depending on what personal experience you list on this forum...

That being said, you are spot on about Mike at Total Man saying that compression hanging is what he has used to make gains. He uses vacuum hanger types after he reaches fatigue with a compression hanger. I would encourage/challenge anybody to contact him directly and post his response on this forum...

When I got above 10 lbs with a vacuum hanger, I had a horrible time avoiding blisters. I followed the protocol, hanging two hours a day and only increasing a pound a week. I tried multi wrapping, the shoelace technique, and using gauze under the wrap as well. It was really annoying and I became primarily focused on not getting a blister instead of reaching fatigue. The main disadvantage of vacuum hanging is that your glans strength/toughness/conditioning must always be ahead of whatever weight you are trying to hang, regardless if that weight gives you fatigue or not.

I've made the switch to compression hanging for now. It's looking good so far.

Another blog article on how to properly define "Fatigue".

L.G. Hanger, LLC: Search results for fatigue

[hulkman Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close hulkman]

Disinformation! I've reviewed your post history going back over a year, and you were complaining of the same problem long before you started using the LG Hanger. You're not being truthful, you've been doing PE with other devices that may have caused or contributed to your problems.

I've repeatedly reached out to you via PM with advice, along with suggestions here on the open forum.
You've stated you've sought the opinion and advice of your doctor and you didn't heed his / her advice, and you kept doing PE even when you were told to stop.

I never sought your advice because you usually try to say it’s not your device but another that caused anything. I know something is wrong and I know it’s from the lg hanger. And you did exactly that. Also you’re not a dr so what help can you be to me? I also said to speak through the private messages. And you didn’t

What advice did I not listen to telling me to stop pe? A doctor? Of course doctors are going to tell you to stop, there isn’t a urologist you can go to that is going to tell their patients to hang weights from their penis.

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I never sought your advice because you usually try to say it’s not your device but another that caused anything. I know something is wrong and I know it’s from the lg hanger. And you did exactly that. Also you’re not a dr so what help can you be to me? I also said to speak through the private messages. And you didn’t

What advice did I not listen to telling me to stop pe? A doctor? Of course doctors are going to tell you to stop, there isn’t a urologist you can go to that is going to tell their patients to hang weights from their penis.

To be fair here, it is never the device whether it be an extender, a hanger or a pump. It always, 100 percent of the time, comes down to the operator of the devices.

Could you injure yourself with a Bib, an LG or any extender....yes, you most certainly could but I would wager large sums of money that you weren't using a device properly if you caused yourself injury using a device.

You can injure yourself with your hands. The fault is yours and it is not fair for you to go and make slanderous accusations against a product.

Seeing as you didn't ask for advice, you are the cause of your issues, nobody else is to blame

Thousands of man have used many hangers of all types including the LG without issue.

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Just to add, for anyone that wants to comment on being attacked, when someone makes slanderous remarks, one can defend himself and that does not make it an attack.

I have just spent a stretch going through your history hulkman, its full of injuries and questions about injuries both before and after you were using the LG hanger.

I've read several of your threads, you've been offered help and advice by many including Marlon. You need to focus on your issues, stop casting blame on others and accept responsibility for what YOU have done to yourself.

We are all here to help you, I'm sure even Marlon would still like to help but you have to take the advice you are given.

The LG hanger has valves and O-rings, these are consumable parts, that means that eventually they will fail and require replacing. I have replaced my O-Ring twice and my valve once, In fact, I just ordered another valve. It has over 7 years on it.

I've replaced valves on pump cylinders as well.

In one of your threads you asked questions about losing pressure, yet you kept using the hanger.....accept responsibility.

Now we will move on but consider this a warning: do not start any threads or insert yourself into any threads to make disparaging remarks against Marlin or his hangers again.

We need to move forward and see if we can help you. As of now I would suggest you do absolutely NO PE, even if it takes a year, no PE