Hanging 101

[Maximus84]

Blink, not sure if you have covered the following question. What is your take on doing some manual stretches (5-10min) before the hanging session, to loosen the ligs up abit?

[blink2000]

Effectively, hanging does the same thing as a manual stretch, just with more force (as you move into the higher weights). As an extreme example, guys like Dustpan who can hang 75lbs probably can't benefit much from manual stretches.

I don't think that manual stretches would hurt at all, but I think the benefit will diminish after a while. Over time, your ligs will become harder & harder to deform. Once you completely maximize lig gains (by using the lower angles like SD, BTC), you'll be ready to move on to tunica deformation work (e.g. RSDT).

[overunderin]

New to hanging, have read the above a few times..Many Thanks for the trouble writing it blink.
Have done JP's routine twice to condition my unit.
Started hanging this week, 3x20 minutes at 1KG ( 2.2lbs )
Will stay at this weight for a couple of weeks before increasing...
Length is the goal at the moment....again Cheers !

[redbear52]

I don't know that it "has been demonstrated" that those who do heavy girth work have trouble making length gains. I don't count Bib or others having said so, without some other evidence to support the theory, as constituting a "demonstration".

It has been demonstrated that with any and all forms of PE some guys tend to gain length but little girth, and some girth but little length, but I don't think any physiological reason has been established for this observation. It may well be that guys who did heavy girth work did not gain much length, but that isn't the same as establishing that they failed to gain length because they did girth work. Conversely, there are surely guys who have gained a good deal of length with little girth gain, but again, this does not establish a cause and effect relationship.

In the absence of a very large randomized trial of participating members, it would be very difficult to garner evidence that someone's girth gains actually hindered subsequent length gains.

[Yuffie]

I'm clumpsy so i can't imagine me doing this safely.....however, nice read

[blink2000]

overunderin: good luck with things.

redbear52: Most of our PE knowledge is based on the success, failure, & collected wisdom of those who have gone before us. We can ignore it, or try to use it to our advantage (e.g. length first, girth second). This has been demonstrated many times with anecdotal evidence. As they say the proof is in the pudding. PE itself is "unproven", yet we know it works based on experience. The length first, girth second advice is based on this same type of logic.

The advice is based on the experience of many who have done progressively more advanced girth routines for long periods of time and have substantially scarred and toughened their penile tissues. These PE veterans were disappointed when their length gains were stunted. We don't want others to experience the same issues. You're welcome to ignore or follow it. Personally, I am going to follow this rule, because I believe the veterans I learned it from.

[redbear52]

A hypothesis is a hypothesis and remains a hypothesis even if one million people repeat it. You keep talking about this having been "demonstrated". If you know of some real evidence other than someone having expressed this as conjecture and it having been accepted as "the conventional wisdom", why don't you kindly share this "large body of evidence"?

[TheAssMan]

the problem i have with the stretchers is that they just kill the skin they press against once u start adding pressure, even with something to help soften it still hurts badly after 2-3 hours, another problem is that once in a while they move around and u get a nice bulge sticking up in ur pants due to LOT, if it shifts a tiny bit you loose pressure or so forth. Dont forget the skin the base presses against getting pinched and so forth. A rubber band connected to the leg is always there.

I guess as no one has tried it i'll be the genie pig.

just gotta get me some tape.
The first week i'll try it with just the vac cup on, then i'll slowly start adding pressure.

basically i want to be able to make this comfortable to be able to wear it continuously, not 5 hours a day of hell.

[blink2000]

TheAssMan:
Edit: It sounds like you're talking about an extender maybe? I wouldn't combine that with hanging ever.

redbear52:
Length First, Girth Second: For me this is just common sense, & a PE fundamental. While some may get away with ignoring this, it seems safer to follow the advice.

I welcome your challenge. For anyone else who reads this thread and decides they want to challenge the length first, girth second theory, let's use that thread to discuss this:

https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...tml#post156952

[oxymoronman]

Is there any way to do weights using home utilities and paraphernalia? I mean I may not have a budget or the willpower to start buying these contraptions.