Extender users, is it worth it?

[volta]

Hey guys, i was wondering if buying an extender would be worth it? I'm about and inch ad a quarter inch away from my goal of 9 BPEL, and i was wondering if anyone out there with experience can give me a little feedback on any extenders. The Vimax is relatively inexpensive, so I'm thinking about getting that one.

I've got a question for those who've used an extender, on the Vimax extender website they have this page where they calculate your size according to the months you put in in using it, with this notice.

Please note that the results are based on usage of the Vimax Extender 12 hours daily 7 days a week.
Results will vary, and these results are only ment as a guidance to your new penis size!

has anyone use it for that long a period of time daily?

[not2big]

I've got a question for those who've used an extender, on the Vimax extender website they have this page where they calculate your size according to the months you put in in using it, with this notice.

has anyone use it for that long a period of time daily?

The size calculators on the manufacturers' web sites are pure BS. X4 Labs is being sued in Canada by a customer who claims no gains and was denied a refund. Six hours seems to be the high end of use by members on the PEG. One member claimed to be using an extender 9 hours a day and was starting to see gains, but was banned (for supporting the rights of members to use disrespectful comments about gays) before he could provide his long term results.

I have used an X4Lab extender for about 4 - 4.5 hours a day since last May. Due to ED, I do not have accurate measurements; however, it seems my EL is up almost 1/2 inch. Stretched flaccid length in the extender is up over an inch. Other members have claimed better results.

[midasman1974]

I have never owned or worn an extender, but I have to say I agree with not2big: The only way to grow and develop any other part of your body is through 1. Natural growth or 2. manual labor. Why would your penis be different?

Note that most advertisments do NOT claim to provide erect gains, they just say gains. I don't think you can get worthwhile erect penis gains from pills, lotions, hypnosis, extenders or voodoo.

The routines and exercises here at www.pegym.com consitute manual labor and they work.

[redbear52]

There is no reason to believe that if stretching your penis with your hands works that stretching it with a device would not.

Certainly there are many guys who report gaining length with an extender, and plenty who have not. There are also plenty of guys who claim to have gained length with hanging (and plenty who have not) and that isn't manual labor either.

[dsmall]

An extender is the only product that has some peer review support for permanent increase in length. There are also some reporters who have published their own experience with an extender and reported gains. There is nothing but anecdotal evidence supporting claims that it increases girth. Calixto had written extensively about his long term experiences with an extender, so has Dangler. Both have reported gains. I have certainly seen significant gains in flaccid length in the nearly three months I have been wearing an extender on average of 10 hours per day. I would like to put at least 1000 hours in before I really give a report on its effectiveness and give firm measurements.

FYI, It is difficult to wear it without access to a private bathroom. It requires a break in period. It requires adjusting tension from time to time as you wear it. It requires a brief period where you can remove it for a few minutes every couple of hours to relieve numbness and allow circulation. It is not inconspicuous under clothes unless you can wear a baggy jacket and hide your belt line from the bulge. Its like trying to hide a 7 plus inch erection surrounded by metal rods. You cannot sleep in it. It is difficult to drive or walk around wearing it in a down position. I can't imagine trying to hide its use from my spouse or girlfriend if you live together. I generally wear it pointed straight up, and even then it presents a bulge in the beltline.

Bib reported incredible gains from long periods of time hanging. It is difficult to imagine that the normal working guy could duplicate his regimen. IMHO, time under tension is the critical factor in PE--for length gains. I don't think the typical working guy can duplicate my current extender routine. I work in my own office with a lockable door and have a private bathroom. I wear a suit and tie so its easier to camouflage my extender use when colleagues come in to visit . My wife knows I am using it so I can use it at home. If you can only squeeze in 2-3 hours a day, then it will not be any more effective than manual PE exercises. You will barely be able to get acclimated to wearing it effectively. If you can wear it for more than 5 hours a day, then it will probably be more effective than any type of manual PE exercises. The only more effective tool for length is probably hanging for at least 10 hours a week. It would be more difficult for me to lock my office door for 2-3 hours a day and hang weights off my penis so an extender works better for me. If you have 3-4 hours of uninterrupted time in your apartment or bathroom every day, then hanging might be better for you.

IMHO, the extender companies do not accurately give the necessary information to understand what you need to do to get benefits from an extender. Most people cannot wear it for 5 hours a day, no less the 12 hours a day estimated by the calculators. But I think 2000 hours of effective extender wear will get you at least an inch in length when erect and more in flaccid length. It might take the typical wearer 20 or more months to log that kind of time in. It should take me less than a year so I already see real changes because I am wearing it almost twice as much. The gains at that rate (20 months) are so slight and incremental you might give up, or just switch to a manual form of PE. Stretched flaccid does appear to have a close relationship with erect length. You might see as much as 2 inches in gain in flaccid and stretched flaccid length from the same 2000 hours. Again, I am going by the published studies, the posts on this and other forum of dedicated extender users, and my own limited experience after 3 months.

That's the only question. if you have a situation similar to me, then an extender might be the right device. If you don't than it might not be effective because you can't wear it long enough to get any benefit out of it. Good luck.

[redbear52]

Manual stretching can create very large distracting forces, but they can only be held for short periods of time. Most stretches are held from 30 to 120 sec at a time, although some guys have done intermittent stretching for hours at a time.

Extenders provide much less distracting force than what you can provide manually, but can potentially maintain tension for much longer periods of time. Some all day stretchers (ADS) provide even less tension, but some guys manage to wear them throughout the day, and even while sleeping (although I wouldn't personally recommend that).

Hanging is sort of in between manual stretching and use of an extender. It applies potentially high distracting forces for 20 minutes (typically) at a time.

People have debated back and forth whether it is better to apply more tension for a short period of time, or less tension for a much longer period of time. No one really knows. The fact is that guys have reported gains, and others have reported no gains with each approach.

[dsmall]

Manual stretching can create very large distracting forces, but they can only be held for short periods of time. Most stretches are held from 30 to 120 sec at a time, although some guys have done intermittent stretching for hours at a time.

Extenders provide much less distracting force than what you can provide manually, but can potentially maintain tension for much longer periods of time. Some all day stretchers (ADS) provide even less tension, but some guys manage to wear them throughout the day, and even while sleeping (although I wouldn't personally recommend that).

Hanging is sort of in between manual stretching and use of an extender. It applies potentially high distracting forces for 20 minutes (typically) at a time.

People have debated back and forth whether it is better to apply more tension for a short period of time, or less tension for a much longer period of time. No one really knows. The fact is that guys have reported gains, and others have reported no gains with each approach.

Exactly. The debate in many ways will not be resolved without specific peer reviewed research. There is no question that internet sites like these and thunders, photos. etc/ provide powerful ancedotal evidence that tension to some degree and for some time produces increases in size. What that magic formula is has not been definitively established.

Extenders do have some peer reviewed research behind them. I think that alone makes them worth examining closely. The problem is that they require huge amounts of time.

[not2big]

I have been using an extender for 8 months, but two months ago I started reading about how some members were getting nice gains from hanging so I decided to add hanging (2 X 20 minutes @ 12 lbs twice a week while my wife is at rehab for knee replacement) to my routine. I guess I couldn't make up my mind as to which would be more beneficial so I decided to do both. Since I added hanging two months ago, my flaccid stretched length continues to grow, though my EL is up only marginally. Unlike others, my normal flaccid length (I can;t say hang because it usually turtles up and sticks straight out) is only slightly improved, mostly girth. However, I can pull it out a lot further now when I use a public urinal which saves a lot of embarrassment.

Strangely, my wife is not aware that I am doing either, though she is aware that I pump. I do most of my extending while watching tv in my recliner. I do excuse myself a lot more to go to the bathroom. "Luckily" my NBP stretched dick is currently under 5.5" so I can belt my jeans above the tip of the extender. Don't tell any one, but I also use my extender in bed at night next to my sleeping wife. Got in three hours during each of the last two nights.

[volta]

The size calculators on the manufacturers' web sites are pure BS. X4 Labs is being sued in Canada by a customer who claims no gains and was denied a refund. Six hours seems to be the high end of use by members on the PEG. One member claimed to be using an extender 9 hours a day and was starting to see gains, but was banned (for supporting the rights of members to use disrespectful comments about gays) before he could provide his long term results.

I have used an X4Lab extender for about 4 - 4.5 hours a day since last May. Due to ED, I do not have accurate measurements; however, it seems my EL is up almost 1/2 inch. Stretched flaccid length in the extender is up over an inch. Other members have claimed better results.

i supposed i should have known. seems like a great way to sell a product, however long the users must use the device.

I have never owned or worn an extender, but I have to say I agree with not2big: The only way to grow and develop any other part of your body is through 1. Natural growth or 2. manual labor. Why would your penis be different?

Note that most advertisments do NOT claim to provide erect gains, they just say gains. I don't think you can get worthwhile erect penis gains from pills, lotions, hypnosis, extenders or voodoo.

The routines and exercises here at www.pegym.com consitute manual labor and they work.

I'm not trying to cut corners. I'm currently on a 40 min jelq, 30 min stretch daily routine (this week). I would just like to maximize my gains.



thanks to all the guys who've replied, especially dsmall, your post was very informative. thanks man.

[rhinoguy]

I agree with all the above comments.

*Don't be certain you can wear an extender in public until you have tried it on your own penis, physiology matters though I have heard of some who were able to wear for up to 8 hours day. I can only do about 4.

*Don't expect a lot of gains without some serious time spent using it. Disregard the website predictions, they are bunk.

*If you want a realistic hours-versus-growth prediction, peer-reviewed studies support a generalized growth rate:

growth (in inches) = 0.0010 x (hours of use)

My readings tell me that the growth rate does not change and is a constant function of hours invested. Do two hours a day and you will move two hours along the curve. Do 6 hours and see 6 hours worth of growth. That is good news as is the fact that there is almost no documented case of someone doing extender PE seriously who did not gain in one amount or another. My own gains have been right on target at about 5/16"-1/2" for 350 hours of work.