LGH vs Phallosan Forte

[DreamOn]

I assume that not many of you people will be able to relate to my findings unless you own both devices like I do so for those who own the LGH and PF I would appreciate your opinion on what I think so far between these devices regarding hanging. I am fully aware that Phallosan Forte was not purposely made for hanging although it was tested up to 13lbs, but comparing the two devices I can see that the PF might be the greatest competition for LGH especially the fact that you can use it as an ADS or a hanger (if possible) which is something I've always wanted a hybrid of both that can actually manage higher weights 15lbs+ for countless hours.

Today I received my LG hanger and to my surprise the large bell is actually bigger and wider than the circumference of my LG hanger and I've been using the large bell with medium condom (I used to use the small condom on the large bell but I started trying the medium recently and I was fine with it didn't loose suction). So I am thinking that if I can just find a hook to rig it in my PF it can probably handle higher weights just like the LGH and it might even be better than the LG hanger.

I think if I use the small condom sleeve on the large bell I will not have any problems at all loosing suction even with higher weights (10lbs+). My glands are now used to enlarging and filling up the entire large bell (which is a little more wider than my LGH) and if I can just find a way to hang with PF I think in my opinion it might be the greatest threat to the LGH.

[DreamOn]

Just as I thought I used the small sleeve condom on my large bell and I tried hanging with 8lbs for 1 hour (yeah I used the plastic hook that came with PF since I couldn't find an alternative yet, it didn't look like it can handle it so I don't recommend using it) and I had no slippage didn't lose suction at all and I didn't get any blisters I wrapped my glands with tape just to be safe (I highly suggest to never use the protector cap I believe that thing is completely useless for PF especially in hanging). After I finished my 1 hour session my glands was huuuge seems like a fluid buildup inside but it went away after 30 minutes or so which I think is the same effect when you use the LGH.

Once I find an alternative hook to rig on my PF I will try to go for 15lbs for an hour and see how it goes I will not risk breaking the plastic hook that comes with PF. I really wish they made a metal one instead for the price you have to pay this is one thing I hate the most about PF.

[Vulture]

You are going too fast...Did you work up to 8 lbs?
You have a PF, you were supposed to have it in LOW tension for as long as you can...It's been said many times that many who didn't get gains from extending used a very high tension from the beginning...You want to make your dick bigger or make it impossible to enlarge by toughening it up?

All the things you are doing now is what you are supposed to do at a LATER time, when you can no longer gain without much time, and the newbie gains are gone...Those who get the best gains from extending or ADS are newbies who haven't done any PE before...

[diesel225]

i own both as you do and i think if PH did a slight upgrade on there pump and increases the thickness of the sleeve and used a high impact plastic or some kind round metal clamp like a cable clamp that attached at the top of the bell behind the pump. a larger re vamped pump or even take the existing type pump and modify it with a hose and pump like the LG then yes i think it would be a better hanger but as of know i say LG is the best weight hanger on the market. ill check home depo im sure i can find a round clamp and then fix a chain to either side of the clamp that would hang down pass the pump and then put an s hook and apply weights.

[diesel225]

You are going too fast...Did you work up to 8 lbs?
You have a PF, you were supposed to have it in LOW tension for as long as you can...It's been said many times that many who didn't get gains from extending used a very high tension from the beginning...You want to make your dick bigger or make it impossible to enlarge by toughening it up?

All the things you are doing now is what you are supposed to do at a LATER time, when you can no longer gain without much time, and the newbie gains are gone...Those who get the best gains from extending or ADS are newbies who haven't done any PE before...

the grip device use 8 lbs hanger and an all day stretcher. the workout is this am 45 min hang 8 lb then extend then before bed hang 8 lbs then extend through the night.

the concept is this moderate hang cause the structure to break down faster do to the 8 lb hang then you keep the gaps open with all day stretcher sending the signal for cell division. just think of the 8 lb hang as a jump start to the breakdown process. i don't think you should hang tons of weights for tons of hrs so i agree with you there this will cause the penis to become conditioned to heavy weights and then you will be forced to hang to get gains. i think 6 to 8 lbs hang is perfect to open the gaps in the cell structure and mild to to light stretcher all day just keeps them open.

its a sound approach but the grip device sucks i even bought a new on to test against the lg and it loss suction every time after like 5 min.

[DreamOn]

You are going too fast...Did you work up to 8 lbs?
You have a PF, you were supposed to have it in LOW tension for as long as you can...It's been said many times that many who didn't get gains from extending used a very high tension from the beginning...You want to make your dick bigger or make it impossible to enlarge by toughening it up?

All the things you are doing now is what you are supposed to do at a LATER time, when you can no longer gain without much time, and the newbie gains are gone...Those who get the best gains from extending or ADS are newbies who haven't done any PE before...

I own a vacextender and gained .4 inch with 600 hours logged in along with manuals and I also used the vacextender for hanging up to 5 lbs but I was having a very hard time avoiding blisters although it was said that it could handle up to 10lbs of weight and also even with the vacextender I still felt uncomfortable at around 1.5 hours and then I would have to take it off and take a break unlike the PF where I can just switch to the other side and be good to go. I believe I've used up all my newbie gains by now and anything I gain are real hard earned gains from this point on. I do use my PF at the lowest tension to the point where you can just barely see the green zone which is the light tension whenever I am sleeping or outside in public the only reason why I use the highest tension at home is because I don't always have time to hang and highest tension is at 6 lbs so in a way it feels as if I'm doing a light hanging lol.

Another thing I love about PF is that I can enlarge my glands to fit the large bell EXACTLY how the LGH works so then I would have friction in concert with the vacuum instead of only the vacuum carrying the weight so I believe in time PF users will also gain girth near the glands and also a bigger glands.

[DreamOn]

Today I tried hanging with PF for 2 hours straight at 5 lbs using the large bell with the small condom sleeves and I didn't have any problems at all I always tape my glands when I am hanging regardless of the weight. My entire glands enlarged to fit the entire bell which created friction along with vacuum it was great and it felt like I could go forever. I also didn't loose any suction during the entire 2 hours of hanging because the small condom grips your penis like a freaking anaconda lol.

I think the only real advantage that the LGH has over the PF is the price range and quality because I have to admit that the quality of how the PF is made is not worth it's current price range. Between PF and LGH quality wise the LGH is built like a tank and I can really see that it's made with quality and can last forever. Besides the quality I don't see any other advantage of the LGH over the PF. While the PF can potentially become a hybrid of ADS and hanging 2 in 1 which is something you can't do with the LGH.

So if you are looking for just a hanging device and nothing else then I would say the LGH is the best choice, but if you are looking for a hybrid device that can be use as an ADS and light hanging then Phallosan Forte is the best choice.

For some people like myself who doesn't always have the time to hang because of the lack of privacy or simply has a busy schedule but whenever possible try to hang then I highly recommend the Phallosan Forte because I wear this thing 16-18 hours a day and I wear this when I sleep, exercise, run, and do bodybuilding so if I can wear this thing while doing those things then you can pretty much wear it whenever you want and whatever things you do no problem at all. Once I can figure out a hook to rig on my PF I will test it at 15lbs for an hour for the sake of experiment and finding the true limits of PF, but so far PF has been tested up to 13lbs according to an official representative and I have personally tested it from 5-8lbs for at least an hour and I did not have any problems at all PI and EQ were great.

My next goal now is to buy an air pump so I can pump and hang so that my dick would be bigger before going in the PF or LGH, I do believe that in time whether you use Phallosan Forte for hanging or simply as an ADS you WILL gain girth especially near the glands and also gain bigger glands due to the glands enlarging to fill the entire bell. I use the large bell with medium condom when I ADS and the small condom in the large bell when I hang and the circumference of the large bell is wider and bigger than my LGH so it has all the same effects that the LGH does.

[diesel225]

hey dream on i was thinking about this mod to the PF and here is what im thinking of.

1 remove the pump from PF then attach hose to were the pump goes. then to the other end of hose get female valve like on the LG then use the pump from lg to create more suction.

i will have to use like some kind of sealing tape like the stuff used on the groves in the shower to prevent air leaking out due to the place wear the reg pump goes is not perfectly round then apply the tube and maybe some o the outside of the tube and to the bell.

i will try and get everything i need from the hard wear store but might need to order the female valve. in any event there is no structural change to the PF bell and can go right back to stock by pulling hose off and taking tape off.

[Vulture]

I see you guy's point now. I don't own either but I'm wondering can you wear the LG for as long as the PF with low force/tension?

And how do you enlarge the glans to make them fit the bells? Is it automatic after you put your glans into the chamber/bell?

[DreamOn]

I see you guy's point now. I don't own either but I'm wondering can you wear the LG for as long as the PF with low force/tension?

And how do you enlarge the glans to make them fit the bells? Is it automatic after you put your glans into the chamber/bell?

LGH and PF pretty much has the same exact concept on how both devices works the only difference is that PF can be use as an ADS or potentially a hanger while LGH can only be use as a hanger due to it's size and having to use a larger pump.

When you insert your penis in both devices PF or LGH and you roll down the sleeves once the glands is inside the dome/bell you use the pump to suction and create a vacuum inside the dome and this is where your glands will enlarge as you pump resulting in a enlarged glands that is filling up the entire dome/bell.

If the LGH wasn't as big then you can pretty much wear it for as long as you want exactly the same as PF with low tension, but it has two major disadvantage regarding ADS system and that is 1. it is simply too big for an ADS and 2. Unlike the pump you use with PF the one with LGH is just too big to carry outside of your house.

The thing is the LGH is too big yet the dome where you actually insert the penis isn't as big as the PF large bell for my situation at least so if they made the LGH a little small while retaining the size of the actual dome it is then pretty much exactly like a Phallosan Forte.