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  1. 04-29-2014 #391
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    Have a look at both my progress log (the first page) and also the phallosan tips link, both in my signature. I explain my process of adding tension to the device, starting at the lowest tension and still (nearly 9 months later) not even being in red yet. Over 2700 hours later. My approach is for longevity, to max out all possible gains at lower tensions before increasing it. It has worked monumentally for me and I still have a long wear-time future in the phallosan instead of maxing out my gains too early.

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    Thanks kickinthemebs,

    I was just thinking I had forgotten to add piece of information that I realised is not required in the list but I believe it is of extreme value to us. Is up to you if you find it valuable (specially now that people have already logged so many hours).
    I was going to say at what level I have been wearing PF. Because I know Julian once mentioned about a guy not making gains because his tension was to high, and how many people gain a lot still with minimum tension. Or to what gains we can attribute a cycle of tension increases and etc. Since each colour has lower, mid and high level it would be too much to include them all in the list. But I think adding columns with green, yellow and red to allow people to state how many hours they have spent on each color would be an extreme help, specially since some of these products compete on how much more tension they can offer and specially since most levels of injuries, pain, uncomfortable wearing occur in higher tension levels. Not to mention the psychological effect high tension has on us, I am sure some people associate comfortable long periods of wearing PF with not enough tension and therefore no gains.

    For example, I have been wearing PF on mid to high green for 177 hours, I have just changed it to yellow and it has become challenging to achieve many hours because of the pain from the PF belt. If I decide to go back to green and still after X hours I can realise some excellent progress people can benefit from that.

    Food for thought...
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  2. 04-29-2014 #392
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    Hey kick,
    that was an amazing read. Extremely well thought descriptions and planning. No wonder I have to congratulate you on your gains! They are the result of dedicated effort and consistency.

    But what is your thought on updating the table? So we can see if PF works similar with other people, or even better, proof of how it works on average. Say you need 2 months on mid green before stalling, but someone else needs 4 months? Maybe no gains at all at mid green for me?
    Then again, you mentioned month, but we know that 1 month or even days is an inaccurate measure compared to hours. better to see the hours per color. This way, regardless of the hours variation, we have total hours on each level and we can actually associate it with X gains. We could get very close to the average perfect path to maximum gains. Maybe even see graphical patterns of growth, for example, past the second month (at green) where growth happens only up to 10%, the following couple of months are followed by a growth explosion where 50% of growth is seen. And although from the 4th month onward growth occurs it is at a much slower rate, back to when you firts starte using PF. Of course , this is only an example, and what might actually happen can be the total opposite, hence why it would be interesting to grasp these developments.
    Final question, do you have an excel file with the data in the table?
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    Man you are trying to make something objective which is really quite subjective. There is not a 1 size fits all for what tension to wear it at and how long to keep it there. As I said, this is MY approach to how I wore it, there are other members who wear at different tensions for different times at different hours. For example, DreamOn wore his and worked up to high red by 2000 hours and then he took a deconditioning break of a couple of months where he didn't wear it. He is back wearing it again but we haven't heard back from him in a few weeks so cannot decipher his progress.

    In relation to doing up averages etc on this thread, I thought about it the past few weeks but I have way too much going on at the moment both in my personal life, work-life, teaching-life, as well as a huge amount of contributions I am making to this forum, as a moderator, and work I am currently doing on the top performers thread (myself and bnip are collaborating on a thread together which is requiring A LOT of work, a lot of hours). You are more than welcome to do this work yourself on the table here and I will fill in the results on the first page?

    Again, the range of users, experience, different gains, different other types of PE uses, it would be far too inaccurate to do much analytical work with it except to provide the table, and the types and ways of use. And there have been plenty of discussions in the thread about details of it, i.e. some have mentioned rest days is necessary, there has been proof that PE vets gain less from it, and so forth. Again, the thread is still in its early days and people do not have enough hours logged/experience to establish anything fully useful at present.

    Quote Originally Posted by perse View Post
    But what is your thought on updating the table? So we can see if PF works similar with other people, or even better, proof of how it works on average. Say you need 2 months on mid green before stalling, but someone else needs 4 months? Maybe no gains at all at mid green for me?
    Then again, you mentioned month, but we know that 1 month or even days is an inaccurate measure compared to hours. better to see the hours per color. This way, regardless of the hours variation, we have total hours on each level and we can actually associate it with X gains. We could get very close to the average perfect path to maximum gains. Maybe even see graphical patterns of growth, for example, past the second month (at green) where growth happens only up to 10%, the following couple of months are followed by a growth explosion where 50% of growth is seen. And although from the 4th month onward growth occurs it is at a much slower rate, back to when you firts starte using PF. Of course , this is only an example, and what might actually happen can be the total opposite, hence why it would be interesting to grasp these developments.
    Final question, do you have an excel file with the data in the table?
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    Great thread kickin! Some serious hours out into this product. Great stuff
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  5. 04-29-2014 #395
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    Thanks mate! There is a seriously large amount of people using the phallosan and only a fraction of them are on that table. Yeh I am up to 2700 hours in it, good going

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    Great thread kickin! Some serious hours out into this product. Great stuff
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    Just started using the Phallosan. Only have 70hr logged at the end of today's wear time.

    I do 8-10hr a day. 5 days on 2 rest days

    I also wear it on the high green

    Manual PE slightly modded JP90 with Bathmate warm down 3 @ 5 min sessions for a total of 15mins.

    starting measurements
    bpeg 6.5
    mseg 4.75
    bpfsl 6.5

    Current
    bpeg 6.6
    mseg 5
    bpfsl 6.75

    only been Peing for about 26 days do far. Hoping the Phallosan will get my length going. Jelqs and bathmate seem to be helping with EQ and girth so far. I think i am tunica limited which is why i chose to incorporate the phallosan
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    Wanted to add too. Chafing is a real problem where the ring is at the base. I switch sides about every 2 hrs and that seems to keep it away.
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    Thanks for providing all of the relevant details mate. You are added to the table, good luck with your gains, keep us posted over the next few months

    Quote Originally Posted by wannaextend View Post
    Just started using the Phallosan. Only have 70hr logged at the end of today's wear time.

    I do 8-10hr a day. 5 days on 2 rest days

    I also wear it on the high green

    Manual PE slightly modded JP90 with Bathmate warm down 3 @ 5 min sessions for a total of 15mins.

    starting measurements
    bpeg 6.5
    mseg 4.75
    bpfsl 6.5

    Current
    bpeg 6.6
    mseg 5
    bpfsl 6.75

    only been Peing for about 26 days do far. Hoping the Phallosan will get my length going. Jelqs and bathmate seem to be helping with EQ and girth so far. I think i am tunica limited which is why i chose to incorporate the phallosan
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    Thanks and will do Kickin. Need to start my log here. Have it all in a note book. Guess I need to transfer it all over to the forums.

    Thanks for providing all of the relevant details mate. You are added to the table, good luck with your gains, keep us posted over the next few months
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    I would advise you to make a progress log here, they are so so beneficial. Especially for logging phallosan hours, keeps track of them quite well. And it is great logging on and seeing how many total hours you have logged and how close you are to your goal.

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    Thanks and will do Kickin. Need to start my log here. Have it all in a note book. Guess I need to transfer it all over to the forums.
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