New Statistical Analysis of Results of Phallosan Users

[jackjohnson]

In order to get accurate data that can be analysed, a test must be conducted. Dr. Ric has been looking for grant money from a variety colleges and medical institutions that would be interested in conducting tests on Penis Enlargement. I just viewed a entire thread that had some very heated debate among members and a naysayer.
This particular guy insists that penis enlargement is a hoax, that it is impossible to do. I didn't even bother to enter into the conversation. Those of us who have made significant gains know he is wrong.

If by chance we happen to get some grant money to pursue this study, what we would do is find a sample of men from different ages and ethnicities that have absolutely no previous PE experience. Then segregate them into three or four categories. Measurements would be taken, and a variety of devices would be used by each for a given period of time. First of all determine if penis enlargement is possible, and secondly what is the most effective way to do it.

Until this sort of study is done there will be debate. I'm sure everyone has seen the television commercials with smiling Bob promoting Enzyte. How many of you actually believe the implied message that this particular pill if taken will produce the results that they claim? How many millions of dollars have been spent by men who are gullible enough to believe the hype? Well it's in the MILLIONS! Which takes me back to my original point.... That nobody can say with any degree of certainty how much a person can gain using device XYZ.

You will not find one single post anywhere on this forum that I have made that suggests how much a person can gain by using the device I use. When asked I can only tell you what I have personally gained, how I did it and how long it has taken. So when I see intelligent, educated men making hypothetical extrapolations based on zero data, I get annoyed! Anyone out there made multi inch gains using Enzyte? I guess if you're a professor in "size-mology" you can dazzle them with brilliance or baffle them with bullshit.

You don't need grant money. All you need to do is start a kickstarter/Go Fund Me campaign. Inform the moderators at PEGYM, Matters of Size, and ************* to all recommend that everyone donate to the campaign. You can contact all the penis device companies. Extenders, hangers, pumps, inner wears, foreskin restoration etc.

This type of kickstarter campaign would likely get picked up by national news, websites, blogs, etc. Sex is an important topic and there are countless articles written on it everyday. You could also contact the likes of Dr. Drew, Dr. Ruth and the other top sexologists in the country. Celebrities like Jenny McCarthy, Howard Stern, all have radio shows on Sirius XM. The shows can easily be called. There are tons of celebrities now that have podcasts like Joe Rogan, Adam Corolla, Jay Mohr, etc. These could easily be contacted.

You would be surprised how powerful kickstarter is. You could have incentives where if they donate a certain amount of money they get a free penis device, etc.

I have seen many kickstarter campaigns where the donations have been in the millions. You would probably only need 50,000 dollars in order to create a research study. Participants would need to take before and after pictures and videos.

This could very easily be done if someone had the initiative.........just saying

DO IT !!

[kickinthemebs]

Yup, already done: Clinical studies - PHALLOSAN® forte

I also think they have another one in the pipeline Julian was saying, one based in the States.

In order to get accurate data that can be analysed, a test must be conducted. Dr. Ric has been looking for grant money from a variety colleges and medical institutions that would be interested in conducting tests on Penis Enlargement. I just viewed a entire thread that had some very heated debate among members and a naysayer.

You will not find one single post anywhere on this forum that I have made that suggests how much a person can gain by using the device I use. When asked I can only tell you what I have personally gained, how I did it and how long it has taken. So when I see intelligent, educated men making hypothetical extrapolations based on zero data, I get annoyed! Anyone out there made multi inch gains using Enzyte? I guess if you're a professor in "size-mology" you can dazzle them with brilliance or baffle them with bullshit.

Maybe you should have a word with your partner then

Generally a person can add approximately 50 percent in length and approximately the same in girth from pre-PE size, provided you approach this in a conscientious, safe. consistent, and knowledgeable way. I give you this percentage because I am always asked the question how much can one expect to grow. Please realize that this is a very approximate percentage, because there is great variability from individual to individual ranging from genetics, enthusiasm, studiousness, patients, consistency and time spent on the process.

In addition the LG hanger has been used no less than 300 times in MD initiated penile surgery, one can go to lghangerllc.com and read the resume of the physician. Such extensive use In a medical setting, it goes without saying, is unprecedented and highly significant.



Richard R. Howard II, Dr. PH, MS+30, MPH (Tulane University Graduate)
Your Penis Doctor
The Howard Complex
cell 504-606-5856
e-mail – drrichardhoward@aol.com
wedsite - yourpenisdoctor.com, lghangerllc.com

[Tamora]

I really don't see what the problem is with the data supplied from members from this site being used to compile data analysis. Even if some on the list did bullshit about their gains (which I doubt because the only people they would be fooling would be themselves considering we're all pretty much anonymous) there were definite trends highlighted by the data. For example, manual exercise was not a significant factor but pumping combined with the PF was. I would have thought that if the data was tainted this would have been reflected in the results of the analysis.

There are far too many respected members on this site that use the PF and have seen gains to doubt it's effectiveness. Personally, I really don't care if the results of the analysis show 0.000010" or 0.100000" growth per day...the important conclusion of the analysis from my point of view is that it works given that one puts the optimum amounts of hours in per day.

You pay your money and take your choices...what's the problem!

[Marlon LGHanger]

You don't need grant money. All you need to do is start a kickstarter/Go Fund Me campaign. Inform the moderators at PEGYM, Matters of Size, and ************* to all recommend that everyone donate to the campaign. You can contact all the penis device companies. Extenders, hangers, pumps, inner wears, foreskin restoration etc.

This type of kickstarter campaign would likely get picked up by national news, websites, blogs, etc. Sex is an important topic and there are countless articles written on it everyday. You could also contact the likes of Dr. Drew, Dr. Ruth and the other top sexologists in the country. Celebrities like Jenny McCarthy, Howard Stern, all have radio shows on Sirius XM. The shows can easily be called. There are tons of celebrities now that have podcasts like Joe Rogan, Adam Corolla, Jay Mohr, etc. These could easily be contacted.

You would be surprised how powerful kickstarter is. You could have incentives where if they donate a certain amount of money they get a free penis device, etc.

I have seen many kickstarter campaigns where the donations have been in the millions. You would probably only need 50,000 dollars in order to create a research study. Participants would need to take before and after pictures and videos.

This could very easily be done if someone had the initiative.........just saying

DO IT !!

Great idea! I nominate you to head up this research project... LoL
I will forward this onto Dr. Ric. He is basically retired and has a lot more time to pursue these sort of things. I'm too busy running two businesses, I hardly have time to wipe my own butt... working 10-14 hours per day, 6 days a week.

[closed224]

I will cut back to those hours for a grant also. That would be awesome.

[namsokiek]

I find this all very amusing.... especially in light of the "few caveats" and the "etc." that completely nullify the statistical number crunching mumbo jumbo! How do you measure .003? Are you kidding when you round numbers out to 6 places to the right of the decimal point? As a tool and die maker machinist I work daily with decimal fractions that are .001 to .0005

Does anyone appreciate how small .003 is? It's the average thickness of a human hair or a piece of paper!

When it comes to predicting how much you will or can gain from any particular PE exercise, it is all pure speculation. This one thing I do know, given equal amount of time, 10 lbs of traction is more effective at making changes occur than 1800 grams of traction.
Ask any orthodontist how much pressure is required to move teeth? Then ask him if 30% of that same amount would be just as effective at getting the job done.

I've been an electronics engineer for almost 40 years running a successful electronics equipment manufacturing company mainly for aerospace and broadcast for 20 years and I didn't find it amusing at all!

With all due respect...is it entirely necessary to be so offensive towards a new member that has only ever taken the data supplied and tried to use his knowledge to benefit others?

Here we go again... This inherent self-promotion would be amusing if it weren't so damn cringey and repetitive.

ta53ora and kickinthemebs,

You shouldn't get too offended, he's the machinery and manufacturing co-inventor of the device. You shouldn't expect reason-based analysis of significant factors and their effects on results.

Probably the reason he has yet to identify a "more appropriate" rate of gains (length/duration) that was common between the 31 samples that could also be intuitively compared to the hours/day data.

When the other co-inventor, who is a Dr., can't be bothered to correctly identify the subject of his criticism, what do you expect?

[Marlon LGHanger]

ta53ora and kickinthemebs,

You shouldn't get too offended, he's the machinery and manufacturing co-inventor of the device. You shouldn't expect reason-based analysis of significant factors and their effects on results.

Probably the reason he has yet to identify a "more appropriate" rate of gains (length/duration) that was common between the 31 samples that could also be intuitively compared to the hours/day data.

When the other co-inventor, who is a Dr., can't be bothered to correctly identify the subject of his criticism, what do you expect?

Any objective analysis of a product or device has to be done by an independent third party. The manufacturer of said product or device can do their own tests and publish results, but how can the public completely trust those results?

Just this past year the BJU (British Journal of Urology) and International Journal of Urology published a report on "average penis size". Within that report you will find that when it comes to men measuring themselves and reporting their size is that they LIE!

Just this past week we discover that Volkswagen tweaks their software in order to get better gas mileage, so when they advertise that a certain car in their lineup gets "X" number of miles per gallon it can be verified. But as we know when adjusted to the EPA standards it needs to comply with it doesn't get the same number of miles per gallon. That's called deception.

I guess when it comes to people / companies making claims about anything, I view them with a healthy skepticism.
So until anIndependent study is done, any claims made about projected gains is all speculative. That includes my own device. Just as the original author of the post that I commented on says there are "caveats". I see far too many posts with guys asking for advice because they are not making gains, and are frustrated because they read all kinds of promises and wonder why they aren't experiencing the gains that a particular device is supposed to give?

My motive is to bring honesty to the subject of penis enlargement. To do tests and comparisons. To identify what are the most effective devices and ways to enlarge your penis. I have pointed out that some devices are more effective than others. Personally I believe much can be accomplished with manual hand work..... provided you have the time. All that said I'd like to see a grading system which would be categorized as "Good", "Better", "Best".

I have made offers to two prominent moderators, in which I would supply for free my device for testing and comparison.

[DataWonk]

Users did not report tension data, so I can't give a definitive answer. Personally I think one must find one's own cost-benefit tradeoff. Probably higher tension helps you gain faster while you remain healthy. But it also raises the risk of injuries that can sideline you. Best, DataWonk

[DataWonk]

Sorry - I forgot to mention that I am replying to a member's question about optimal tension (green/yellow/read) on the PF.

[kickinthemebs]

Nah I disagree mate, from my own personal experience and reading tonnes of other guy's experience. The optimal gain zone is between high green and high yellow. Red zone = nothing but blisters, redness, and edema. Zero gains for me in that area for 500 hours and same with the experience of many others.