2000 Hours With Phallosan and Bathmate X30

**traderace** · 11-15-2015

updated log

**DaddyL0ngstroke** · 11-15-2015

So 1,000 hours got you 1 & 1/8th inch. That's awesome.

My Phallosan should be in the mail tomorrow.

I have a Bathmate, but I stopped using it because I couldn't keep my balls from tightening up and getting crushed by the gaiter. But I'll probably try to figure out a solution and start using it again as well, in tandem with the PF.

**traderace** · 11-16-2015

Yes, I am more than happy. I am by far outpacing my expectations. I figured an inch in 2K Hours. I have read all of these promo pieces making big promises and naturally I discounted those. In the official research study published by Phallosan the best gain was 1.9 inches in 6 months. It also says that 10 hours/day was the most time worn. They did not say if that was the same person who gained 1.9 inches. One thing I think it is fair to conclude is that you can feel the pull much greater toward the end of a very long session. To me that means it should be worn for long sessions. Time under tension is the mantra for this, but I just don't think two five hour sessions equals one ten hour session. I have made the best effort to have long, continuous sessions, as much as possible.

**rocketmanindo** · 11-16-2015

@traderace - Great job tracking your progress, you have made me become a member after being a longtime lurker of this site. Really nice dedication as a fellow bodybuilder myself I can admire the amount of dedication physically and mentally that went into this.
This post is the reason I just ordered a phallosan after currently owning the bathmate X40 and the Goliath. Which I agree is a blast to use!
My only question is, Was the time you spent in the PF including time spent using the device during sleep?
I am trying to prepare a 8-12 hr a day use schedule but with a full time job that actually is about 60hrs a week the only way to accomplish this successfully would be during nocturnal/sleeping hours.

@DaddyL0ngstroke I had the same issues with my scrotum being pulled by the x40, holding it down while getting suction would help but still would sometimes pull to the point of pain.
After purchasing the Goliath I was able to pump my balls as well and my penis together. I still prefer the x40 and just holding down the scrotum to begin with. I never pump for more then 15 minutes and 90% of the time it is laying down in the bath as opposed to standing in the shower. I remember reading others had success covering the whole at the bottom of the gaiter then cutting out a smaller hole just for the penis, after this they achieved even better vacuum since the seal was only on the penis instead of the pubic mound and scrotum.
If I can find the link after some research I will share.

**traderace** · 11-17-2015

@rockemanindo thanks for the kind words. As for sleeping in the Pf, I don't do it much. I have a few times, but I just didn't like it. I consider the PF as part of my outfit until this experiment is over. That means I put it on when I get up and take it off when I sleep, including to the store, work, gym, etc. I leave it on. I have used sleeping hours to play catch up if something prevented me from getting my hours that day. I have read that a lot of people use it in their sleep.

**pssword** · 11-17-2015

Thanks traderace for the post, the log and all the replies. Real new and a couple quick questions and they are really for anybody reading this. Is there a glossary on the site for the terms I have no clue what any of them mean like, BPEL, EG and BPSFL and so on. The other question and even after some reading I am still confused about this, are these gains that can be achieved really permanent. What I mean is if I was to follow your routine traderace for one year and I gained one inch in length then at the end of the year was happy with the results would I then be able to stop completely or would I have to continue some kind of maintenance routine to keep the results I have or could I stop completely without any additional maintenance and still keep the gains. Thanks in advance to anyone who replies.

**rocketmanindo** · 11-18-2015

Originally Posted by pssword

Thanks traderace for the post, the log and all the replies. Real new and a couple quick questions and they are really for anybody reading this. Is there a glossary on the site for the terms I have no clue what any of them mean like, BPEL, EG and BPSFL and so on. The other question and even after some reading I am still confused about this, are these gains that can be achieved really permanent. What I mean is if I was to follow your routine traderace for one year and I gained one inch in length then at the end of the year was happy with the results would I then be able to stop completely or would I have to continue some kind of maintenance routine to keep the results I have or could I stop completely without any additional maintenance and still keep the gains. Thanks in advance to anyone who replies.

I would suggest you start here https://www.pegym.com/articles/penis-wiki-terms
The cementing period is different with everybody. Length gains and Girth gains are different with everybody as well and results will vary with any device you use. As with anything, gains never really last if you quit forever, but the longer you do it (this type of training is really about time spent), you can keep your gains with less time just focusing on maintenance. Who knows, you might wind up enjoying your result and dedicate more time to the PE cause.
Rome was not built in a day, and neither is a bigger D

**rocketmanindo** · 11-18-2015

@traderace Your welcome, congrats on your program I hope you keep tracking your results. I am hoping for even half the gains you have had. After using my bathmate for so long and have had great gains for girth this was the next logical step.
May I ask, where did you buy your PF from and how long did it take to receive the package from the date of purchase?

**pssword** · 11-18-2015

thanks a lot for the reply and the info rocketmanindo

**DaddyL0ngstroke** · 11-19-2015

OP, do you pump before PF, or PF before pump? Do you think it matters? What tension do you think is most beneficial? Do you tend to switch it up from day to day, or from hour to hour? I just got my PF and I'm trying to learn from your success lol. Any other recommendations or advice, or tips for just starting out based on what you've learned would be awesome.