Only god I know is a doctor.. Surgery

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Penis surgery

How legit is surgery for girth? It's a common idea that penis surgery is very risky and sketchy. And even if it does go well can you still achieve a erection?

Has there been any new scientific shit that has come out lately making penis surgery a actually logical option for men or is it still sketchy as fawk?

Just found out my girth isent even 5 inches just measured a mechanical tool at work and it was about 5 in and I had thought it was like at least 5.25 from the way it feels. It's a perfectly round handle on a torq gun my dick is a little wider than it but isent as solid all the way around is this a realible comparison? I think it is but I hope not so basically my girth is like 4.8 wich is probable the end of me . Let's get real I doubt pe actually works so leaves me with 2 options . Ive been extremely depressed last 7 years (23) and in the last year or so I've actually become pretty comfortable with the idea of death . You know the way I look at it life's not fair and just like some people die from cancer some people die from depression ( although I must note people that die from cancer have it 100x worse than depression not trying to compare the two so trust me when I say I'm not looking for sympathy ) ..

Where have i been the last billions of years? I wasent suffering in a conscious existence like I am now . I was at peace as far as I know why not go back there if your time here isent pleasant and the bad times outweigh the good times so drastically it almost makes sense to take your life as long as you've done everything you can do to be happy. And in my case those things are just literally impossible .. ( looks , penis size , height ) so it kinda leaves me with 2 options

1... Either keep on dying or keep on flying

2.. Penis surgery

Sorry for the long post but just trying to get my point across n so you don't feed me any BS about penis surgery

I'll give it a few months of pe and if I don't hit 5 inch girth or any gains in girth in 2/3 months I'm out . I don't want to go into detail About why I think penis size matters so much because it might put a different perspective in many men's mind reading this thread on penis size leading to there own life changing insercuritys and that's not what I want

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So you only want to give 2-3 months what most guys take a year or so to accomplish and then call it quits? I guess that's fair. No it really isn't but hey what do I know!

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If you are depressed and the size of your penis is an obsession to the point you can't function normally on a day to day basis- then You first need to rid yourself of trigger mechanisms like porn and then seriously seek help or counselling. You sound like you're hurting for a multitude of reasons

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5 inches of girth is fine bro. I highly recommend you to avoid unnecessary surgeries. 5 inches is just fine. If you are getting erections and can stay for some good time then... don't worry... be happy; your women will absolutely fine with it.

And to get rid of porn like triggers then start with morning meditation followed by some Yoga. You'll start loving yourself. Good Luck.

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2-3 months is prime for newbie gains and EVRYBODy gets newbie gains that's when most of your gains happen . And counseling is pointless I actually consider my self pretty intelligent ( despite my shity Grammer ) but I understand counseling and how it's spouse to work . My opinion you have to have a weak mind for a guy to change your views on life . I mean it does work for some people and some of those physcologist are actually really good and clever with the right words and ideas they offer you but it's just not for me . I would consider it a miracle for someone to change the way I view life .. I am who I am . I'm a good person with a big heart but I have a shitty personality and care way to much about things that I shouldn't and I wish I didn't and have tried for years to view life on a diff level but my mind won't allow it

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Gettin rid of porn would be smart though prob

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

Even 4.8" is well within the average range. Cut a one inch strip off of a paper towel. Wrap it around your shaft and Mark where the end touches the strip. Lay the strip down flat and measure from the end to the mark and you have an accurate measurement of your girth.

By the way, my wife got a lot of pleasure out of my 4.4" girth for over 40 years before I started PE..

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Even 4.8" is well within the average range. Cut a one inch strip off of a paper towel. Wrap it around your shaft and Mark where the end touches the strip. Lay the strip down flat and measure from the end to the mark and you have an accurate measurement of your girth.

By the way, my wife got a lot of pleasure out of my 4.4" girth for over 40 years before I started PE..

Did you ever gain any girth with PE? Like I said I need a miracle and gaining girth in ur penis is a modern day miracle according to doctors. Best thing that can help me right now is real believable success stories .. But then again ur just a guy on the internet all u guys on here have no credibility if I had more motivation that pe actually works then it would drop a small ball of hope in my life to keep on a strict PE program. My problem now is exessive masterbation with porn wich keeps dropping me into the negative PI as far as EQ goes . At least I hope that's the reason for my shity EQ

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Did you ever gain any girth with PE? Like I said I need a miracle and gaining girth in ur penis is a modern day miracle according to doctors. Best thing that can help me right now is real believable success stories .. But then again ur just a guy on the internet all u guys on here have no credibility if I had more motivation that pe actually works then it would drop a small ball of hope in my life to keep on a strict PE program. My problem now is exessive masterbation with porn wich keeps dropping me into the negative PI as far as EQ goes . At least I hope that's the reason for my shity EQ

1.27 million posts in this forum, 137,000 members, there are 56,000 people reading these forum as I type and you think that this site is a scam and doesn't work. My friend that is a hell of a lot of effort for any con artist to pull off. You ask for success stories, the forums are full of them - we even have a forum labeled success stories. Spend some time reading (1.27 million posts may take some time) and have a smidgen of faith and drum up an ounce of motivation to give this a try. By the way, at no time did I try to sell you anything did I. I lifted weights once and I did not look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, does that mean lifting weights doesn't work? Commit, invest the time, and don't give in to the mentality of instant success. PE takes time, everyone knows that. The opportunity to learn and grow are here at your fingertips, on this screen and available free of charge. I get paid nothing for my time here, my only compensation is the satisfaction of seeing people like you succeed. I challenge you to find another community of like minded individuals working together like this forum anywhere.

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Did you ever gain any girth with PE? Like I said I need a miracle and gaining girth in ur penis is a modern day miracle according to doctors. Best thing that can help me right now is real believable success stories .. But then again ur just a guy on the internet all u guys on here have no credibility if I had more motivation that pe actually works then it would drop a small ball of hope in my life to keep on a strict PE program. My problem now is exessive masterbation with porn wich keeps dropping me into the negative PI as far as EQ goes . At least I hope that's the reason for my shity EQ

I followed a fairly aggressive pumping program for over four years and gained over an inch (4.4 to 5.5). Unfortunately, I am only an Internet guy, so I can't prove it to you. But that's ok. My wife enjoys it.

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if I had more motivation that pe actually works then it would drop a small ball of hope in my life to keep on a strict PE program.

At least I hope that's the reason for my shity EQ

This is your problem right here. If you are not motivated, consistent and dedicated you will not get the results that can be achieved with a strict PE, dedicated routine. The other problem is your EQ, how do you know what your actual girth is when trying to measure with poor EQ?

What kind of mechanical tool were you using to measure with?

And lastly, even though you you object to the idea of of professional help.


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2-3 months is prime for newbie gains and EVRYBODy gets newbie gains that's when most of your gains happen . And counseling is pointless I actually consider my self pretty intelligent ( despite my shity Grammer ) but I understand counseling and how it's spouse to work . My opinion you have to have a weak mind for a guy to change your views on life . I mean it does work for some people and some of those physcologist are actually really good and clever with the right words and ideas they offer you but it's just not for me . I would consider it a miracle for someone to change the way I view life .. I am who I am . I'm a good person with a big heart but I have a shitty personality and care way to much about things that I shouldn't and I wish I didn't and have tried for years to view life on a diff level but my mind won't allow it

This is interesting. You pretty much described EXACTLY the way I feel and the way I see myself! wow... It is so unfair that we must feel this way.

I also refused counseling eventho I had severe panic attacks and deep sadness for a couple of weeks/months and saw death as the only outcome. Words cannot change our minds. Only having a larger penis can fix our problems. I was completely lost. I still am, but I feel I am recovering. I'm not crying anymore and don't have panic attacks either. I do feel minor anxiety creeping up on me at times, but I focus on clearing my mind when it does.

The main thing that is making me feel better is me realizing and telling myself that I REFUSE TO FEEL BAD PERIOD. I REFUSE TO THINK NEGATIVELY eventho I have many reasons to do so and this is working for me.. I don't want to think about my pathetic dick anymore or my non-existent sex life because of it. Some of us are just unlucky and we need to accept it.

You say you are a good person. Well be proud of that. You should love that about yourself and don't let anyone hurt you, not even your own brain. I know I sound like an idiot, but this is really working for me. We both need to lower the importance of sex/penis size and even love. Just FORCE YOURSELF to think differently. During the worst moments a couple of weeks ago I was at work repeating to myself for hours "stop, I don't want to feel". I honestly thought my head would explode at one point. I was killing myself with negative thinking, but this repitition of positive thoughts and blocking of negative thoughts is changing the viscious negative thinking. I'm not saying 'give up on PE', just focus on healing your brain (as Big Al told me). I'm gonna do both at the same time.

I still feel worthless. I am so unhappy with my dick but it's not worth dying for. I'm focusing my thoughts on positive things only. On satisfying myself any way I can (watching sports, playing games, eating everything I love etc..). Most importantly, I focus on the people in my life who I love and who love me. Surely you have people around you who love you? You love them? Use their love to feel better about yourself.

Snap out of this negative way of thinking. I hope you do. That way you can relax and continue PE for a long time and who knows, after a couple of years you just might have that girth you always dreamed of. And if you don't it's not the end of the world. Surgery is not worth it. I thought about going to a consult, but I read too many horror stories and I don't want to risk not even being able to have an orgasm anymore or even peeing without pain.. forget that!

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Penis surgery

So you're actually a bit larger than the average in girth but have created this artificial standard for yourself, and in your self-created misery you think achieving this arbitrary measure will make you happy. As an aside (re: your billions of years of consciousness) if you could track consciousness through time as a single entity on Earth, you may find much of the lower animal kingdom as well as those in early and even recent human history in much of the world suffered/suffers through realissues- much more than the typical human in a "civilized" society today could even imagine experiencing.

What privileged creatures humans are in that they must often abstract to create their own suffering due to a lack of suffering imposed upon them. If you ever go through something which could bring you true suffering, this needless standard and the pain you've imposed on yourself would look like a blessing beside it.

With all due respect you need to learn how to stop looking for things to torture yourself over! Your real issue isn't your penis, and your size concerns are, IMO, a deeper manifestation of unresolved emotional issues.

The irony in situations like yours is this type of training when performed in very negative emotional stats can cause more harm than good. This is especially the case if your problems are so severe you have ED. The first form of training you should consider is to learn to reorient and strengthen you mind. MASTER one aspect at a time, and you can then approach this training with the goal of mastery in mind- instead of from the approach of an emotional slave.

As for your thread title, it's the saddest part of your post

About why I think penis size matters so much because it might put a different perspective in many men's mind reading this thread on penis size leading to there own life changing insercuritys and that's not what I want

Yet you've done this very thing to yourself

Please don't take this post the wrong way, but you really need to stop allowing your mind to take you deeper into even darker places!

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...Only having a larger penis can fix our problems.

How so? And by who's standards? A larger penis will not get to the root of your problems!

The main thing that is making me feel better is me realizing and telling myself that I REFUSE TO FEEL BAD PERIOD. I REFUSE TO THINK NEGATIVELY

This is a good start, but talking it over with others can be very helpful. It can give you some much needed perspective.

Go visit a burn ward, cancer center, or a prison. See what some others who are going through tangible, serious problems are experiencing. Even in those places you've find others who have real issues attempting to extract as much good as they can out of their own painful existences. They become a form of light for others and unto themselves!

Perhaps you can lend an ear to them and give them some support as you're attempting to do here. Not only will it give you some much needed perspective but the act of helping others will help you to begin to heal.

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To clarify, the above posts aren't meant to minimize anyone's suffering. The point being made is the suffering in many of these cases (e.g.- wanting 5+ inches or death, etc.) are the result of giving one's power over to something completely arbitrary and self-imposed.

True emotional strength must be developed, and while the confidence gained from mastering certain aspects of one's self via training can go a long way towards this, a solid and healthy emotional foundation should be achieved before this type of training is taken on.

Much needed here, so please read!

***Before starting any male enhancement routine- please read!***