Thread: PE safety
- 03-07-2010 #1
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I just took a short break due to a smaller flaccid and decrease in night/morning erections. Took a week to recover fully. This happened once before after my first month for the same reason--I increased the routine intensity beyond my threshold. Twice was enough for me. I know where my threshold is now.
I also spent some time researching injuries. I had read the "warning to newbies" on Thunders before, but never really followed all the threads until now. Lately, I've seen a lot of posts by guys jumping to the conclusion that they have "leaks" so I assume they've seen this too. I figured I'd post my conclusions on this. Hopefully some of the mods/vets can comment if they disagree on any of this, based on their experience.
1) Venous leaks. The Thunder's warning to newbies post by Sparkyx says that they have reason to believe that a very small percentage of guys have a predisposition to venous leaks, and that PE might cause a leak, even if they are doing PE correctly. Their reasoning is based on the fact that thousands of guys PE safely, but there are a very few incidents of this that appear to be legitimate. If you read any of this, be aware that a few of the posters on these threads have had this condition pre-PE.
2) A couple of guys had successful surgery for this. The success rate is much higher in younger guys with 1 or 2 leaks, either congenital or from trauma, as opposed to much older guys who have many/other vascular issues. Some guys just function with it, with a decreased EQ, but are able to have sex and compensate.
3) While there are real injuries, there are also some bogus posts by trolls. The posts sound scary, but when you read the whole thread, and see the poster's history, it becomes obvious that they are full of inconsistencies and all the poster is trying to do is scare the shit out of people, and/or discredit PE. I think Big Al mentioned this in one thread.
4) NEVER jelq erect, or close to it! There have been a few guys who have caused either long-term or permanent damage doing this.
5) A brief summary on manual PE methods was discussed on the Mayo Clinic website. Aside from doubting that PE works, they describe methods that they consider dangerous. They included hanging and over pumping. You can easily google it. Interestingly, they mentioned jelqing, and specifically said it may be the safest method. Not sure why but they made no mention of extenders.
6) Watch your PIs carefully, and take a break if you see any decreased EQ. It's amazing how many young guys, who should have raging hardons and libidos are complaining about bad EQ, temporary impotence, etc., yet continue to stretch, jelq and hang! Get a grip! On your common sense, not your dick! Take a break. Take off as long as it takes to get your EQ back to where it was, and then start off gradually.
7) There were a few "PE gave me ED" threads. Some of them fall under number 6), where some guys just took a really long time to heal. I also think that some fall into number 3). One urologist with over 30 years experience, who seemed familiar with PE had this to say to a young guy who complained about lack of erection after over doing it:
I suggest that you stop doing the exercises - forever. I am unaware of any long term damage from these programs but temporary impotence is not uncommon. It is due to insulting exceeding the tolerance of the penile tissues and perhaps also your prostate gland, especially if you were ejaculating very frequently. The lack of erections is a defense mechanism on the part of the body to warm you to stop this activity.
Digest of recent discussions on ISSM mail (January - April 2007)
The bottom line is to always use common sense, and follow all the excellent safety guidelines given on this site. Like Big Al's "Read this first" post. If you're a member at Thunders, I highly recommend reading all of the EQ and PI threads listed in Sparkyx's signature.
Last edited by TechGuy; 03-07-2010 at 06:29 PM. Reason: fix typo
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