Why am I such a grower?

[Road28 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Road28]

Found out today that im actually a huge grower. My cousin who has a flaccid of probably 5.5 inches is cocky as fuck. He always refers to his size as huge and today in the gym he made a remark "locker nbr 19, same size as my dick" and laughed. I was a bit surprised as I thought he would be at least 8.25inches hard... Annoying thing is he thinks his cock is a lot bigger than mine although im bigger hard lol. Im only about 4inches in the locker room as I turtle there for some reason but almost 8 inches hard.

Makes me wonder if PE actually has any impact on becoming a shower. Is there anything specific in terms of exercises and routine I should do if I wanna focus on my flaccid length?

[GoER8 Member Find all posts View Profile Close GoER8]

Fowfers and BTC stretching might help (so they say). I am also a grower, would love to be a shower, something like 5.5 inches flaccid like your cousin is.

Anyway, good luck on your journey

[SmallShortDaddy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SmallShortDaddy]

Being a grower sucks ass. Believe me i know what you are going through. So far nothing has helped. Despite my impressive BPEL gains. I hace accepted it as my genetics and I've made my peace with it. However, there are many brothers here praising the LAS, bed fowfers. Some have even credited the bathmate for their transformation from grower to shower

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

Don't despair guys, if you're a "grower". I was born a natural "shower", so my flaccid Dick was bigger than any of my teammates playing sports in the locker room & showers, all my life. I'll share a few "facts" about "showers" you should know...

1) (Physiology lesson 101)...Natural "showers" (guys who have >5" flaccid Dicks) account for less than 20% of ALL males, meaning 80+% of all guys are "growers". It has to do with both physiology & genetics to some degree, but "showers" have more "inner penis" exposed outside their body because they have longer (more relaxed) suspensory ligaments, and generally are less susceptible to turteling (at least I was). "Growers" expand exponentially greater than "showers" as a general rule, sometimes doubling or even tripling in size, erect. I don't do that.

2) PROOF: Despite my teammates thinking I was huge (erect) because I was big flaccid, I actually grew only a little more than 1" when I was erect (PRE-PE) from my fully flaccid state (but of course, I never told THEM that)! LOL!

3) "Growers" sometimes transition to "showers" thru PE, but not everyone does. I've grown even more in both my flaccid & erect state by doing PE, because my physiology (layers of tunica & fascia) are more "malleable"; so my flaccid has grown in lockstep with my erect gains thru PE. I'm an easy gainer I think, because I have that malleable tunica & fascia coupled with longer suspensory ligs. THAT'S purely physiologically unique to natural "showers", IMO. There are members here who are actually bigger than me erect, but have tiny flaccid penis's. Wishful8X10 is a good example. His flaccid grew very little from years of PE, but he's huge when he's erect, and that's REALLY what counts MOST!

4) A few manual exercises that impact your flaccid size the most (IMO) that you "grower" guys should focus on: BTC or LAS stretches, bed fowfers, tunica tugs (when you pee throughout the day), a hanging routine (to stretch your ligs more, and Advanced stretches like supra-slammers & horse squeezes, once you're fully conditioned.

5) For guys who turtle: wearing a cock ring after PE 24/7 holding more engorgement thru improved blood flow; also wearing a leather balls stretcher, to retrain your cremaster muscles to become more voluntary, which maintains more relaxed balls & your penis too, over time.

6) Devices such as 1) Stealth Innerwear & the coil to hold tension on the penis shaft ALL DAY. 2) Vac extenders, like Phallosan (especially sleeping in one). 3) Other ADS extenders when worn daily & consistently causing "traction" to the penis shaft for an extended time.

^^^These "tips" will help some, but not ALL, "growers" achieve a larger flaccid when coupled with a consistently effective PE routine, IMO. I hope you find them helpful!

[commited_gainer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close commited_gainer]

Don't despair guys, if you're a "grower". I was born a natural "shower", so my flaccid Dick was bigger than any of my teammates playing sports in the locker room & showers, all my life. I'll share a few "facts" about "showers" you should know...

1) (Physiology lesson 101)...Natural "showers" (guys who have >5" flaccid Dicks) account for less than 20% of ALL males, meaning 80+% of all guys are "growers". It has to do with both physiology & genetics to some degree, but "showers" have more "inner penis" exposed outside their body because they have longer (more relaxed) suspensory ligaments, and generally are less susceptible to turteling (at least I was). "Growers" expand exponentially greater than "showers" as a general rule, sometimes doubling or even tripling in size, erect. I don't do that.

2) PROOF: Despite my teammates thinking I was huge (erect) because I was big flaccid, I actually grew only a little more than 1" when I was erect (PRE-PE) from my fully flaccid state (but of course, I never told THEM that)! LOL!

3) "Growers" sometimes transition to "showers" thru PE, but not everyone does. I've grown even more in both my flaccid & erect state by doing PE, because my physiology (layers of tunica & fascia) are more "malleable"; so my flaccid has grown in lockstep with my erect gains thru PE. I'm an easy gainer I think, because I have that malleable tunica & fascia coupled with longer suspensory ligs. THAT'S purely physiologically unique to natural "showers", IMO. There are members here who are actually bigger than me erect, but have tiny flaccid penis's. Wishful8X10 is a good example. His flaccid grew very little from years of PE, but he's huge when he's erect, and that's REALLY what counts MOST!

4) A few manual exercises that impact your flaccid size the most (IMO) that you "grower" guys should focus on: BTC or LAS stretches, bed fowfers, tunica tugs (when you pee throughout the day), a hanging routine (to stretch your ligs more, and Advanced stretches like supra-slammers & horse squeezes, once you're fully conditioned.

5) For guys who turtle: wearing a cock ring after PE 24/7 holding more engorgement thru improved blood flow; also wearing a leather balls stretcher, to retrain your cremaster muscles to become more voluntary, which maintains more relaxed balls & your penis too, over time.

6) Devices such as 1) Stealth Innerwear & the coil to hold tension on the penis shaft ALL DAY. 2) Vac extenders, like Phallosan (especially sleeping in one). 3) Other ADS extenders when worn daily & consistently causing "traction" to the penis shaft for an extended time.

^^^These "tips" will help some, but not ALL, "growers" achieve a larger flaccid when coupled with a consistently effective PE routine, IMO. I hope you find them helpful!

thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge. Keep up the good work

[Ultimate Burrito Moderator Member of the Month Oct 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Ultimate Burrito]

I'm in between. There are some days where I got a freakin elephant trunk swinging around and other days where it's not so much. Don't know why but it varies for me. Same with my balls, sometimes the hang real low and other days they rest snug but they never invert.

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

I'm in between. There are some days where I got a freakin elephant trunk swinging around and other days where it's not so much. Don't know why but it varies for me. Same with my balls, sometimes the hang real low and other days they rest snug but they never invert.

Might be a result of 2 entirely different issues, Burrito. Imbalanced (or weak) pelvic floor, or overly active cremaster muscles. Either or both can cause turteling to varying degrees. Good Hindi squat & yoga (dog/cat) routine will help maintain pelvic floor balance and a leather balls stretcher will retrain your cremaster muscles to become more "voluntary", allowing your penis & balls to remain relaxed.

[Road28 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Road28]

I'm in between. There are some days where I got a freakin elephant trunk swinging around and other days where it's not so much. Don't know why but it varies for me. Same with my balls, sometimes the hang real low and other days they rest snug but they never invert.

This is actually very similar with me. Some days I feel like: "Woah this looks huge!" And other days he just looks like a very average dick.

As for the fowefers and LAS I feel the flaccid gains are very temporary. I guess I have some pelvic floor tightness tbh

[Road28 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Road28]

Also on the days I turtle my libido isnt as high and I feel more anxious as well. Some days Im very horny and my flaccid looks like he could belong to a 9incher

[peckerachu Banned Find all posts View Profile Close peckerachu]

Found out today that im actually a huge grower. My cousin who has a flaccid of probably 5.5 inches is cocky as fuck. He always refers to his size as huge and today in the gym he made a remark "locker nbr 19, same size as my dick" and laughed. I was a bit surprised as I thought he would be at least 8.25inches hard... Annoying thing is he thinks his cock is a lot bigger than mine although im bigger hard lol. Im only about 4inches in the locker room as I turtle there for some reason but almost 8 inches hard.

Makes me wonder if PE actually has any impact on becoming a shower. Is there anything specific in terms of exercises and routine I should do if I wanna focus on my flaccid length?

Well this is what I have been faced with, like always. If you have a small flaccid (visually, not talking exact numbers here but compared to your body overall) people will make fun of it and degrade you to make themselves feel better.

This is most unpleasant experience for us growers... My only goal in PE is to get a big flaccid to sort of have a revenge at life. You need to keep your penis stretched close to EL all the time because small flaccid is caused by overelastic penis tissue.

But also, man, keep it real.

Your cousin is obviously a lot bigger than you. His flaccid is a sweet 5.5 "at least" you say and his flaccid gives him enough confidence to consider himself huge. If a girl walked into your locker room she would leave and think your cousing was huge, which he is and well think you were not. This is something we have to accept before we can move forward and try to make our flaccid bigger!

[Ultimate Burrito Moderator Member of the Month Oct 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Ultimate Burrito]

Also on the days I turtle my libido isnt as high and I feel more anxious as well. Some days Im very horny and my flaccid looks like he could belong to a 9incher

I think that has a lot to do with it. I call it the horn dog factor.

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

This is actually very similar with me. Some days I feel like: "Woah this looks huge!" And other days he just looks like a very average dick.

As for the fowefers and LAS I feel the flaccid gains are very temporary. I guess I have some pelvic floor tightness tbh

Ligs are VERY tough fibrous tissues, so stretching them is a slow process, particularly for guys with a wide "saddle" or pelvis. The development of the groin muscles is influenced greatly by the training you do particularly in athletics, which tends to strengthen and tighten up those ligs & groin muscles. Reason I say that is, I played starting catcher on my baseball team when I was in HS. My Senior year my team made the state tournament, and ALL those extra games and practices resulted in me developing a 3 month case of DE. My Urologist said it was due to all the extra squatting I was doing in games & practices after a full season of playing. I almost KILLED my GF that summer trying to get off!

[HansTwilight Retired ModeratorPE Gym Editor Member of the Month Jan 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close HansTwilight]

Ligs are VERY tough fibrous tissues, so stretching them is a slow process, particularly for guys with a wide "saddle" or pelvis. The development of the groin muscles is influenced greatly by the training you do particularly in athletics, which tends to strengthen and tighten up those ligs & groin muscles. Reason I say that is, I played starting catcher on my baseball team when I was in HS. My Senior year my team made the state tournament, and ALL those extra games and practices resulted in me developing a 3 month case of DE. My Urologist said it was due to all the extra squatting I was doing in games & practices after a full season of playing. I almost KILLED my GF that summer trying to get off!

How do you know if you have a wide pelvis? I have big thighs and an hourglass figure, you can tell from my pictures.

[straight8 Member Find all posts View Profile Close straight8]

Ligs are VERY tough fibrous tissues, so stretching them is a slow process, particularly for guys with a wide "saddle" or pelvis. The development of the groin muscles is influenced greatly by the training you do particularly in athletics, which tends to strengthen and tighten up those ligs & groin muscles. Reason I say that is, I played starting catcher on my baseball team when I was in HS. My Senior year my team made the state tournament, and ALL those extra games and practices resulted in me developing a 3 month case of DE. My Urologist said it was due to all the extra squatting I was doing in games & practices after a full season of playing. I almost KILLED my GF that summer trying to get off!

Try using MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) it will help make those ligs more pliable.

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

How do you know if you have a wide pelvis? I have big thighs and an hourglass figure, you can tell from my pictures.

Yep, you do! (I took a look at your pics, Hans). You have a wider pelvis along with a thicker trunk & thighs than some guys. It's genetics when it comes to bone structure, but can be augmented with strenuous exercises geared toward tightening up your thighs & torso (abs /hips). That loss of soft tissue in the lower abs & pelvis will not only decease your BMI ( it appears that's where you carry most of your weight), but will also sculpt your overall body shape, making your Dick more "prominent" in appearance on your body. Not a bad "bod"/ Dick, btw! Your shape is pretty common for American males, in all honesty, and you're not seriously overweight, you just need to "rearrange" how you carry your weight, it appears (hope you don't mind my saying so).