Need ANY advice that could help lead to gains

[IDH Member Find all posts View Profile Close IDH]

Hey Guys - after having no success off another routine I've decided to make a post asking all of the hard gainers out there to post any tips or advice you might have off what sparked your growth spurt.

I know from training in the gym that if your body isn't developing then you should change things up (So please don't post just saying continue with PE) So if you can offer ANYTHING that might lead to progress it would be appreciated.

Thanks guys - and good luck with your PE!

[millia Senior Member;PEGym Editor Find all posts View Profile Close millia]

What routine have you done so far?
How are your PIs?
Talk to Gator and going411by7 they have the best advice by far.

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Routine I did originally was as follows:

10 minutes warming up
5 way stretches (30 second hold)
circle stretching
7 minutes Jelqing

Then:
10 minutes warm up
5 way stretching (50 seconds)
circle stretching
50 jelqs
30 v jelqs
50 jelqs
30 v jelqs
30 combination jelqs

now:
Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

First 2 weeks - 300 wet jelqs
After 2 weeks - 600 wet jelqs

[LOL Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LOL]

Did you follow any of those routines for 90+ days?

How was your BPFSL before and after? Did your EQ increase? Did your libido increase? These are all gains as well and good indicators of your penis health. Not everything is size!

You also should read these pages if you havent: Physiological Indictors TGC Theory JP's 90 Day Beginners Routine They all have good information on them. Good luck!

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Hi - the first link doesn't work but I'll have a read of the theory one now.

I followed the first routine for over 100 days - and the second for 6 weeks. I'm now approximatley a month into the 3rd.

Not to sure what BPFSL is however EQ remains the same - always good. The only thing ive noticed is that I'm lasting longer, probably due to kegels.

Thanks.

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Just looked at the theory thread and it's quite clear I need to excercise the tunica more. Also my BPFSL is the exact same as my EL, smaller than BPEL so would you guys be able to help create me a routine around this?

Tom

[justwannabebig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close justwannabebig]

You need to stretch a lot ! ..
i would keep with that routine you are doing now - its a fantastic routine.. but instead of 3 30sec set, then do two 1min set ..
and remember to do the BTC stretches and the cranks - these are really good for the ligs.. then get an ADS so you can stretch all day long .. and warm up whenever you get a chance .. more is better with warm up.

[LOL Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LOL]

Hi - the first link doesn't work but I'll have a read of the theory one now.

I followed the first routine for over 100 days - and the second for 6 weeks. I'm now approximatley a month into the 3rd.

Not to sure what BPFSL is however EQ remains the same - always good. The only thing ive noticed is that I'm lasting longer, probably due to kegels.

Thanks.

Sorry about that

Just looked at the theory thread and it's quite clear I need to excercise the tunica more. Also my BPFSL is the exact same as my EL, smaller than BPEL so would you guys be able to help create me a routine around this?

Tom

I personally had the same diagnosis and just by doing JP's beginner routine I've made gains, so I don't know what to tell you--except that, even if you are a "hardgainer", I don't know if going into very advanced and strenuous exercises would benefit you more. So be careful.

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Cheers guys - Whats an ADS?

And also do you agree that I should make the changes suggested by justwannabebig LOL - You seem to be quite educated in PE.

Thanks again.

[justwannabebig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close justwannabebig]

An ADS is a " All Day Stretcher" I use a sillicone device - you can se picture of this in my log...

and if you read the tgc theory you'll se what i mean be doing more stretches.. when you bpfsl is not longer than you el you need to stretch more ..

[pe_ZEN Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pe_ZEN]

Hey! There are ways to target your tunica - I am a totally convinced student of that game. Hold your ligs to your body while stretching (see Tunica Tugs). This has worked wonders for me since I incorporated it into my hanging regimen.

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So guys - here's the routine I've thaught of for the next 90 days. What do you think?

Tunica tugs (how long should I hold these for/how many reps)
Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

300 Jelqs (might increase depending on PI's)

[justwannabebig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close justwannabebig]

what about the BTC stretches!?
thats the best stretch maaan

[IDH Member Find all posts View Profile Close IDH]

Do you really think so? I find it awkward to do to be honest however might consider throwing them in again.

[justwannabebig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close justwannabebig]

Do you really think so? I find it awkward to do to be honest however might consider throwing them in again.

yeah - if done rigth you should really get a good ligment stretch