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    Let's talk a little bit about how we see ourselves. I started this topic because I was wondering about something for quite some time.

    Few months ago it occurred to me to measure my testicles because they kind of felt small comparing to my body and so I did trying to measure as accurately as possible - warm ambient temperature to make them hang as low as possible when the skin is the thinnest and without tight squeezing. Measurements are as follows:
    - left: 6,5 x 4 x 4 cm
    - right: 6 x 4 x 4 cm

    Now according to ellipsoid formula [V = 4/3 * pi * (length / 2) * (height / 2) * (width / 2)] volume of my left testicle is ~54,45 ml while the right one is ~50,27 ml. These numbers didn't mean too much to me because I had no reference to compare to so I did a little bit of research on the average size and I was surprised to find out that the normal size for adults is between 15 and 25 ml per testicle. I had a "wtf?!" moment right there.
    So I did measurements few more times and did some further research and I concluded both my numbers and average are solid with very small fluctuations. It turns out I do have testicles significantly larger than the average but I still see them on the smaller side when compared to the rest of my body.

    So, now let's talk about the body. I'm 185 cm high and I weigh 71 kg. Three years ago I had something like 120 kg. I was not obese but overweight my whole life so I decided that's enough and with strict, self-developed diet I lost 50 kg in 3 years. However, even though when I stand in front of the mirror I can clearly see I lost the half of me I still do have 2-4 kg of fat around my thighs and butt cheeks area which I'm looking forward to loose.

    My current BPEL is 19,2 cm (7.56") and considering I have baseball shaped penis the girth at the thickest point (which is at the line of circumcision) equals to ~13 cm (5.12"). So the length is a little bit more than the average while the girth seems to be average and less than average at the thinnest point.
    When compared to my testicles and my thighs, my penis looks average at best when standing and facing the mirror and it looks even smaller when sitting down especially if I try to compare myself to men in porn videos.

    Why am I going in so many details, you might ask? Well, I believe in most cases it does boil down to how we perceive our bodies. We see ourselves every day and we're used to how we look. It became a standard and average for us so when we see people in videos (I'm talking about porn), they somehow always look bigger than they are but in reality most of them are just plain average. Pair that information with the fact that cameras capture 3D world to be displayed on 2D surfaces we loose the sense of depth and perspective which is important when measuring in general. More than that playing with camera (distance, focus etc.) can really fake things on videos. For example, they often bring camera very close to the "action" so things look very big there but once they start to zoom out you start to get the sense on proportions of the body.

    What I learned to look for when trying to compare myself with actors is actually distance between the base of the penis and belly button. While not everyone's body is same, there is very small variation in the position of the belly button in humans so that makes it pretty solid reference point. Often when camera is very close to the action I would say the penis shown is much bigger and thicker than mine but when camera starts to zoom out I then see the actual size is noticeably smaller than mine.

    To conclude this novel: don't beat yourself with "damn, he's bigger than me". Often things are not what they look like. How we see ourselves is not how everyone else sees us. Never forget it's about perspective and objectivity which we often lack when it comes to looking upon ourselves.
    Sep 15, 2018 - BPEL: 18.5 cm / 7.28"
    Nov 15, 2018 - BPEL: 19.0 cm / 7.48"
    Jan 15, 2019 - BPEL: 19.5 cm / 7.67"

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    Yes!
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    • #3
      For me learning more about myself and my sexuality and yes my dick has helped me to become more confident and comfortable with myself and my performance.
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      • #4
        It’s good you’re getting a new perspective. But honestly I don’t understand why someone like you who is literally big enough for porn would even worry about anything like that in the first place.

        I’m the one who should be worried I have a 5.5 Nbpel penis at 200cm height. It sucks because I always get the look of disappointment when I meet a new girl like they think all tall guys are big. The about of times I’ve had girls say your tall you got big hands and feet you must have a big dick would probably be close to a 100. It’s actually depressing and embarrassing.

        In conclusion you have it good most of you guys that post here have it good. Don’t be insecure about your massive rods. I’m the one who should be insecure.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by proactive View Post
          For me learning more about myself and my sexuality and yes my dick has helped me to become more confident and comfortable with myself and my performance.
          Thats what I'm saying. We're being grown to believe we're insufficient and that we need more.

          Originally posted by Interceptor View Post
          It’s good you’re getting a new perspective. But honestly I don’t understand why someone like you who is literally big enough for porn would even worry about anything like that in the first place.

          I’m the one who should be worried I have a 5.5 Nbpel penis at 200cm height.
          To be honest, I do worry because I still have twisted perception of my body but I'm trying hard to objectively see things here. For someone who has 23-24 cm penis, 19 cm might seem small but should I beat myself over it? Of course not.

          This kind of thinking is exactly why I wrote what I wrote. I just said that majority of guys in the porn industry are average (according to scientific research when it comes to penis size) but our perception of comparison of our bodies and those of actors' fueled by cinematic tricks makes us think we're small because we're used to our own bodies and for us they're a standard or average. That kind of thinking which has its roots in the porn industry also makes us think majority of women crave for big, fat penises and that they'll never be sexually satisfied with an average one. It simply is not true.

          Originally posted by Interceptor View Post
          It sucks because I always get the look of disappointment when I meet a new girl like they think all tall guys are big. The about of times I’ve had girls say your tall you got big hands and feet you must have a big dick would probably be close to a 100. It’s actually depressing and embarrassing.

          In conclusion you have it good most of you guys that post here have it good. Don’t be insecure about your massive rods. I’m the one who should be insecure.
          While we hear the phrase "it's not about size but what you do with it" too often thinking it's there to comfort those with small penises, it does hold the truth. As a comparison take two guys: one with big head (and big brain) and the other one with an average one. The guy with big head/brain isn't automatically smarter. It's what they're capable to do with it. You have guys with big head not smarter than an average wood log and yet you have guys with smaller than average heads who are geniuses. The same goes for penis size.

          I'm not on this forum to bash anyone but do not forget the majority of women have vague perception of spatial cognition. It is one of the reasons why women are worse car drivers (e.g. parallel parking), why many have problems with spatial orientation and navigation (e.g. finding a way in maze-like situations such as between high buildings), and why many have a hard time imagining and visualizing things without having to see them drawn first. They also tend to have twisted perception of measuring visually.

          If I were you, I'd first start believing in myself, start loving my own body and start focusing on performance rather than decoration. Whats the point of having 8.5" penis if the guy who has it is an idiot or sadist thinking only he matters during the sex? Just so you can hear initial "wow" impression from the girl? The point is for the girl to reach orgasm(s) and remember you years after, not for her to can't walk or sit for 5 straight days... With 5.5 NBPEL you can do wonders if you know how to.
          Sep 15, 2018 - BPEL: 18.5 cm / 7.28"
          Nov 15, 2018 - BPEL: 19.0 cm / 7.48"
          Jan 15, 2019 - BPEL: 19.5 cm / 7.67"

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          • #6
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            • #7
              Yohvar if you thing the guys in porn are average your delusional. Yes they use camera tricks and small women. But the men are also chosen for their large penises.

              Your penis is 19cm according to you. The average is about 5.17-5.5 inches bone pressed. Or 13-14cm roughly. Your insecurities are coming from your lack of knowledge on this subject. Porn star dick is nowhere near the average male erect penis.

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              • #8
                Is perception reality?
                The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by yohvar View Post
                  Let's talk a little bit about how we see ourselves. I started this topic because I was wondering about something for quite some time.

                  Few months ago it occurred to me to measure my testicles because they kind of felt small comparing to my body and so I did trying to measure as accurately as possible - warm ambient temperature to make them hang as low as possible when the skin is the thinnest and without tight squeezing. Measurements are as follows:
                  - left: 6,5 x 4 x 4 cm
                  - right: 6 x 4 x 4 cm

                  Now according to ellipsoid formula [V = 4/3 * pi * (length / 2) * (height / 2) * (width / 2)] volume of my left testicle is ~54,45 ml while the right one is ~50,27 ml. These numbers didn't mean too much to me because I had no reference to compare to so I did a little bit of research on the average size and I was surprised to find out that the normal size for adults is between 15 and 25 ml per testicle. I had a "wtf?!" moment right there.
                  So I did measurements few more times and did some further research and I concluded both my numbers and average are solid with very small fluctuations. It turns out I do have testicles significantly larger than the average but I still see them on the smaller side when compared to the rest of my body.

                  So, now let's talk about the body. I'm 185 cm high and I weigh 71 kg. Three years ago I had something like 120 kg. I was not obese but overweight my whole life so I decided that's enough and with strict, self-developed diet I lost 50 kg in 3 years. However, even though when I stand in front of the mirror I can clearly see I lost the half of me I still do have 2-4 kg of fat around my thighs and butt cheeks area which I'm looking forward to loose.

                  My current BPEL is 19,2 cm (7.56") and considering I have baseball shaped penis the girth at the thickest point (which is at the line of circumcision) equals to ~13 cm (5.12"). So the length is a little bit more than the average while the girth seems to be average and less than average at the thinnest point.
                  When compared to my testicles and my thighs, my penis looks average at best when standing and facing the mirror and it looks even smaller when sitting down especially if I try to compare myself to men in porn videos.

                  Why am I going in so many details, you might ask? Well, I believe in most cases it does boil down to how we perceive our bodies. We see ourselves every day and we're used to how we look. It became a standard and average for us so when we see people in videos (I'm talking about porn), they somehow always look bigger than they are but in reality most of them are just plain average. Pair that information with the fact that cameras capture 3D world to be displayed on 2D surfaces we loose the sense of depth and perspective which is important when measuring in general. More than that playing with camera (distance, focus etc.) can really fake things on videos. For example, they often bring camera very close to the "action" so things look very big there but once they start to zoom out you start to get the sense on proportions of the body.

                  What I learned to look for when trying to compare myself with actors is actually distance between the base of the penis and belly button. While not everyone's body is same, there is very small variation in the position of the belly button in humans so that makes it pretty solid reference point. Often when camera is very close to the action I would say the penis shown is much bigger and thicker than mine but when camera starts to zoom out I then see the actual size is noticeably smaller than mine.

                  To conclude this novel: don't beat yourself with "damn, he's bigger than me". Often things are not what they look like. How we see ourselves is not how everyone else sees us. Never forget it's about perspective and objectivity which we often lack when it comes to looking upon ourselves.
                  Damn that's amazing! It never occurred to me that my balls might be large and that is making my dick look smaller than it is. Mine are roughly 51ml each! I was sure to pull taught around each one to avoid overestimating. I'm not quite as tall as you but not that far off at 182.5cm, but I'm 88kg and -lean-, 78cm waistline with big thighs and wide shoulders. My balls look proportional to my size, the length of the dick looks solid but like it needs to be thicker.

                  What is interesting is a few days ago I say this pic on reddit of what looked like an insanely thick cock, taken from a perspective of looking up from beneath. What I wanted to comment but didn't was "dude, you're quite thick but aren't your balls abnormally small"? I think it was a combination of definitely above average thickness but below average or average balls that made the pic look insane. Thanks for this post!
                  3/8/2017: BPEL 7.75 MEG 5.25
                  5/31/2018: BPEL 8.125 MEG 5.5+ and growing
                  Goal: BPEL 8.5 MEG 6

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by yohvar View Post
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                    For someone who has 23-24 cm penis, 19 cm might seem small but should I beat myself over it? Of course not.

                    This kind of thinking is exactly why I wrote what I wrote. I just said that majority of guys in the porn industry are average (according to scientific research when it comes to penis size)
                    Okay, your first post was great but this one is flat out wrong and spreading misinformation. Most in the porn industry are 6.5-7.5" NBPEL, so 7.25-8.25" BPEL, with 5.25"-6" girth. Many only slightly above average for girth because anything more becomes difficult for the actress and a smaller girth adds significantly to the length perspective. Camera tricks and small women, along with shot selection and hand position create an illusion of thicker girth.

                    Yes, at 19cm you already have a porn star dick, seriously. Learn to fuck like one and you, too, can make just more than minimum wage in that industry (unless you have the hot bod, face, etc). My wife has always called me porn star, but I've only recently become enlightened enough to see that I do have those proportions (along with moves and stamina ).

                    23-24cm?!!! That's extremely rare, 5-sigma, 1 in 10,000,000. Look up stats on calcsd.bitballoon.com (no ads or graphic images, this link should be safe to post). Look up unravelingsize on wordpress.com, warning it is NSFW but not pornographic. It does have a couple paid ads on the page so can't link directly from here.
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                    Last edited by Letsgivehermore; 12-04-2018, 03:46 PM.
                    3/8/2017: BPEL 7.75 MEG 5.25
                    5/31/2018: BPEL 8.125 MEG 5.5+ and growing
                    Goal: BPEL 8.5 MEG 6

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Interceptor View Post
                      Yohvar if you thing the guys in porn are average your delusional. Yes they use camera tricks and small women. But the men are also chosen for their large penises.

                      Your penis is 19cm according to you. The average is about 5.17-5.5 inches bone pressed. Or 13-14cm roughly. Your insecurities are coming from your lack of knowledge on this subject. Porn star dick is nowhere near the average male erect penis.
                      Did you read my first post completely? Because I have a feeling you didn't so here is just the quote based on which I concluded porn uses average dicks too.

                      What I learned to look for when trying to compare myself with actors is actually distance between the base of the penis and belly button. While not everyone's body is same, there is very small variation in the position of the belly button in humans so that makes it pretty solid reference point. Often when camera is very close to the action I would say the penis shown is much bigger and thicker than mine but when camera starts to zoom out I then see the actual size is noticeably smaller than mine.
                      Try this kind of measurement next time you decide to watch some porn. Of course it's not 100% accurate but it's accurate enough to settle your insecurities.

                      Yes, I do have insecurities when I see myself in full-size mirror because I see how (dis)proportional my private parts are according to my body shape but when I measure I see I'm a little bit more than average. Unfortunately, when I read your posts I have an idea you completely misunderstood my point.
                      Sep 15, 2018 - BPEL: 18.5 cm / 7.28"
                      Nov 15, 2018 - BPEL: 19.0 cm / 7.48"
                      Jan 15, 2019 - BPEL: 19.5 cm / 7.67"

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                      • #12
                        Interestingly I just stumbled upon an article on PEGym which covers a part of this topic without me even knowing it existed before I opened the topic and it says the same I did when it comes to penis sizes in porn industry: https://www.pegym.com/articles/penis...isticanarchist
                        Sep 15, 2018 - BPEL: 18.5 cm / 7.28"
                        Nov 15, 2018 - BPEL: 19.0 cm / 7.48"
                        Jan 15, 2019 - BPEL: 19.5 cm / 7.67"

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                        • #13
                          Having the same, experience as you i also realized that the placement of my nuts, makes my dick look smaller. Especially in cold weather. :-P the porn size thing never gets old, bit some of the most viewed pornstars do have really big dicks. I do not see why so many try to talk down their size. I guess if i were a pornstar i would find these discussions hillarious! :-P .
                          I do not want to start with the is really average this and this. Allthough it seems like the guys who speaks most about how it does not matter and that we are all good enough all speaks with confidence from a size larger than 7’.

                          And to tell the truth.. it seems like the vast majority in here is over 7’ i know how its like to be less than that. And the phrase easy for you to say... is close to mind.

                          Bit nevertheless! Great post!
                          Start 5.8 (14.9 cm) BPEL 5.2 MEG

                          Now: 7 .9 (20 cm ) BPEL 5.3 MEG

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                          • #14
                            Here is a good thread regarding the porn industry for you guys to read.

                            Porn Q & A
                            To totally satisfy a woman sexually is not about having a large penis, it's about being a good lover.

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