I realy need help from vets. Frustrated

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

I will explain everything in order to get a corect guidance .
I have done manual stretches 4 times in my life with zero bpel gains.
Low tension or high tension... no gain.
The high tension no matter the progression always resulted in turtling and low eq.

Jelqing gave me only girth gains.

The only thing that gave me bpel gain is extending at 400grams. It gave me for the 1rst time of my life 0.5cm length in 260h.
Then i increased the tension to 600 and 750 and 1000grams all these progressively and the gains stopped..
I did total of 800h and the only gain i had was when i extended at 400grams.
My dick no matter the slow progression it never get conditioned.
No matter if it is manual stretching or extending or jelqing... every time the same... when the tension is higher it means bad pis and stop of gains.

One example is that with only extending my streched length in the extender was 2.5cm longer than my bpel.
If i ll do 10mins of manual streching and then put the extender on, I m imediately losing more than half of the stretched length.

Should I abandon my goal of length gain or should I go back to 400grams of extending?

I am very dedicated and consistent s
For 14 months and I only gained 0.5cm.

Please give me your opinions.

[Kent09 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kent09]

What extender are you using? Wasn't there a guide on the amount of tension to use and when to increase it to maximize gains?

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

It doesn t matter.
No matter the condition, when i m going more than 500grams the bad pis are always happening.

[FoeDollas Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close FoeDollas]

Get a phallosan forte, thats what im about to buy. I feel like extenders hurt and arent good but they work for alot of people.

[upullitx Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close upullitx]

TD, Your answer may be in your post. Maybe take a 3 month break. Start back with 400 grams till your gains stop and slowly increase tension.

[closed291 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Member of the Month June 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close closed291]

Let's rule out what you have tried...Manual and extending...have you considered pumping or hanging?

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

Pumping even 2x2mins at 1.5hg makes my dick turtle for days...
I have tried it at least 10 times.

[D6ggy9tyle Senior Member Member of the Month April 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close D6ggy9tyle]

Based on your last post I would say you may need better conditioning.

I would also double up Kents question and ask what extender you are using.

I would then ask not how many hours total you used it, but rather, you're routine, how often you used it, how long per day, etc.

"If i ll do 10mins of manual streching and then put the extender on, I m imediately losing more than half of the stretched length"

Please clarify this statement^^^

A lot of these issues indicate a lack of proper warm up and heat.

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

I m warming up everytime.
The extender is penimaster chrome.

Pumping is the worst thing that has happened to me.
Air or water with low intensity and low time gives me turtling and low eq for days.

My dick can t get conditioned even with extending after 800h.
My routine was 4h per day 5 days a week.
I did sometimes 6 to 7 hours with catastrophic results.

My dick can handle only light extending and light jelqing and this gave me gains.
Then i added tension and all stopped .

My dick was 1 inch longer than my bpel in the extender. If i.do 10 mins manual stretching and then put the extender i m losing at least half of my stretched length

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

How do you warm up? For me wet heating made the difference after long time without gains.Wet heat penetrates deeper into the tissues.Prior to that I was warming up with rice sock, it didnt do the job

Also I gained 0.5 " after months of no gains after I incorporated BTC stretches, then gains stalled, but still I gained something.

[D6ggy9tyle Senior Member Member of the Month April 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close D6ggy9tyle]

Well extending doesnt condition.
So are you saying after stretching you can only stretch to 3 inches?

Do you have any other problems with either premature ejac or erect dysfunction?

How often are you ejaculating/masterbating?

[Pound_per_inch Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2020 Find all posts View Profile Close Pound_per_inch]

Intense training will at some point negatively effect EQ and cause turtleing. It doesn't necessarily mean you're not gaining.

After intense stretching sessions I find it near impossible to get an erection to even consider erect girth work.

I can most the time just have a little left in the tank to muster up an erection.

Have you tried doing girth first then using the extender?

Ive switched to starting my sessions with girth now as, like I said before, I find it more difficult to work girth after stretching.

[closed291 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Member of the Month June 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close closed291]

Something that came to my mind too...Are you healing in an extended state? For example, after exercising do you wrap your penis to prevent turtling?

[TeoDeles Senior Member Member of the Month July 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close TeoDeles]

I m extending in light tension for 1h after manual work.
I m using wet heat

[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

You need to increase your intensity, period. Don't worry about turtling or low EQ the next day or a few days after, it will return when you've healed and had a couple nights of sleep.

I'm going to throw my experience as a veteran PE'ing for over 17 years, and still making great gains, out here and say that a lot of the PE theories are bullshit, especially the one about how you should always have great EQ and never experience turtling. That's what's recommended to keep newbies from hurting themselves and getting discouraged, but advanced PE'ers and veterans need to train harder, rest more, and not worry about turtling or low EQ for a few days after because these symptoms go away when you've healed.