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  1. 11-24-2020 #1
    snave72
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    Hi all, I've mostly lurked here but thought it was time that I chimed in. Sorry if it too long...

    I posted some of this in another thread but I thought I would make a dedicated thread because I had some other thoughts I didn't want to muck that thread up with.

    First let me be very clear that I am a relative newbie at this and have no expertise in any area of PE. I started in March of 2020. However, I've done a ton of reading and research and have drawn my own conclusions in several areas. Also, there are some super helpful, experienced and knowledgeable people on here. This forum is veritable fount of good information. I did take several anatomy classes in college so I'm not totally ignorant of how the body works. Dissecting a cadaver is quite a surreal experience.

    I've seen a lot of comparisons of PE to weight training. While this is an apples and oranges comparison, it does have some merit. I've done a fair amount of weight lifting in my time and you build muscle with time under tension. The longer the time and the higher the tension, the greater the damage to the muscles to be rebuilt bigger. In PE, we aren't building muscle, but we are causing some damage (microscopic tears) of the soft tissue and stretching of the ligaments. Each promotes growth. Just like if you stretch your hamstring, or Achilles, you need to start light for short periods but relatively quickly you can add much more tension for longer periods of time to stretch and elongate the ligaments. Part of PE is increasing flexibility as it would be termed if stretching other ligaments in the body.

    That said, I've found that hanging is much more effective for me because I can get consistent tension every time and higher loads over time.I'm not a believer of the theory that high loads makes the ligaments thicker and stronger causing an arrest of PE progress. Of course the body will try to compensate for the recurring strain but that can be overcome with increased time and/or tension.

    Obviously everyone is different so what works well for one person may not be great for someone else. I fully believe you need to really get in tune with your body. When you lift weights, you focus on that muscle being worked building a muscle/mind connection (there is plenty of literature on this). If you are tuned into your body, you can tell what is working and what isn't before seeing results on the ruler.

    I've learned to feel what's working and what is too much. When I first started hanging, I increased the weight too quickly and I got a blister (I also posted about this elsewhere). I ignored the feeling that it was too much but was cocky and didn't heed the warning I was feeling. I started paying close attention after that.

    I feel like I could go on and on but the core message is learn to listen to your body and you can tailor your PE activities to what works best for you.

    The things I've found that seem to work well for me:
    • Twisted hanging where you twist the penis under tension of hanging (using less weight)
    • Bar hanging where the penis rests on a bar, causing an upside down U shape of the penis. I use a modified broom handle to do some rolls up and down the lower 2/3's of the penis while hanging.
    • I pump using the correctly sized cylinder, starting a little below 5Hg and then between 5hg and 10hg depending on how it feels - it varies day to day. I do this for 20 mins and then pump up to 15Hg for 5 seconds and then slowly let the pressure out to almost zero, I repeat 2 more times. I've had no problems with edema or blisters using this method. Again, I vary based on what my body is telling me. I would not recommend staying at or above 10Hg for more than a few seconds.
    • I always warm up and use heat before and after with a slow cool down.


    Again, this is all my opinion and many may disagree and I certainly can be wrong in some aspects. My goals are relatively modest mainly because I don't think I can maintain the regimen for years. I'd be happy to be 6.5" BPEL and somewhere close to 6" EG.
    Last edited by snave72; 11-24-2020 at 10:38 PM.
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    Start 03/2020:
    >BPEL 5.7" x 4.7" EG
    As of 11/24/2020:
    >BPEL 6.1" x 5.2" EG
    GOAL:
    >BPEL 6.5" x 6" EG
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  2. 11-25-2020 #2
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    Some great thoughts and kudos on your progress, very impressive.

    I have heard it too many times that focusing mentally on the muscle you're working takes your development to another level. A bodybuilder I follow named Frank Tufano does this. Arnold did it. It's very tempting at times during my JP90 routines to put on a video or start reading something but I'm going to stop doing that so I pay more attention to what my body is telling me as I do the work. Visualization therapy too, positivity, obsession, meditation, I'm committed this time. I'm beyond committed......I already KNOW I'm going to have what I want so long as I perform the contract I made with the universe and myself. :-)
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    Current stats (Nov. 2020):
    BPEL- 9" (23 cm)
    EG- 6.25" (16 cm)

    Goals for Nov. 2021:
    BPEL- 10" (25.4 cm)
    EG- 7.25" (18.4 cm)
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  3. 11-25-2020 #3
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    Thanks for sharing, some good pointers in there.

    More will gain if they get intune with their bodies.
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  4. 11-25-2020 #4
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    Need more coffee, I think. Welcome !
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  5. 11-25-2020 #5
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    I read about the pumping to higher levels and then letting it out immediately from somewhere. It reminded me of the bodybuilding overload principle and using high weight with negative reps (lowering the weight). It provides an overload without excess stress for too long, giving the body the signal to promote growth. This and using a cock ring after pumping to keep the "swell" in there longer without the aid of vacuum I think can get people through plateaus.
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    Start 03/2020:
    >BPEL 5.7" x 4.7" EG
    As of 11/24/2020:
    >BPEL 6.1" x 5.2" EG
    GOAL:
    >BPEL 6.5" x 6" EG
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  6. 11-25-2020 #6
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    Hey snave !

    Thanks for the insightful, well organized post. I am sure it will be helpful to a lot of our members. Congratulations on your gains and keep us updated.
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    12/'09 (start) NBP EL - 4.5, EG - 4.4
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