Gaining 3-4" in X years should be VERY possible

[Bringer]

Peg did you ever see those crazy African people that disfigure their necks with those rings? I'm not saying its healthy but imagine you hung a 5 lb weight from your dick for 5 years, never took it off. I'll bet the house that when you finally measure up after 5 years, the "gains" are a bit more than 1-2 inches.

I don't understand why people use this example all the time. It has been proven that the people that "Stretch their necks" don't stretch their necks at all. Its their collar bones and shoulders that are pushed down over time. So if you took that theory into PE, you would be pushing your pubic bone back? I don't think so.

[Pegasus]

You're throwing this at a physiologist LOL... let's have fun.

Running is NOT COMPARABLE. When tissue heals... you may have some minor scar tissue (fibrous) but overall the compensatory mechanisms involved lead to cell proliferation allowing you a longer, thicker penis. Ideally. Theoretically (this area of study/interest is under researched)

However... when it comes to running - one's ability to maximize speed/efficiency is training, but a huge factor is also a genetic component. It's all based on Vo2Max / Vo2Peak. That's Aerobic Capacity... VO2Peak = Q x AVO2 difference (the fick equation)
(Q = Cardiac output, or the hearts ability to pump blood.. based on preload, afterload, and contractility which is limited by the frank-stahrling effect... hope I spelled his name right LOL ; and AVO2 Diff which is essentially the ability of oxygen exchange in vivo between red blood cell and tissue site.)

It's the limiting factor - but VO2 CAN be increased, but for most - they may only get as high as 50-60... with extensive training. Genetic Freaks typically are in the 60 + range,scaled to body weight in ml/kg/min. Heh.

Anyhow... you're comparing apples and oranges buddy. Love you Peg.

For a smart guy you can be such a fool (love you too).
Notice, most guys doing aerobic training only get to 50 or 60 something ,regardless of how they train. Some geniticly blessed guys will get a bit more, but again run into a wall, even they don't keep gaining until they they are 100 plus. This of course, illustrates it is not just a matter to keep training to keep gaining. As I stated in a previous post; look at the concept. Lots of high school dropouts understood perfectly what I was geting at.

[Pegasus]

Yo Dante, as a physiologist you show know better than most that theoretically and practicality are two different worlds! Pegs' analogy in it's simplified terms, is quite correct; no matter how you train and how long you train, most people won't run a mile in 4 minutes let alone one.Rember it's Peg, a simple guy from the side of the world where everything is upside down! (lol)

Um thanks I think cusp, i see you understood no problem despite the diadvantage of an education to similar level as dante.
Now notice ,I didn't go on about how we are not upside down and go on about gravity etc.

[kingpole]

I don't kn ow i think the limitation is all in the mind.

[DownLow]

I don't kn ow i think the limitation is all in the mind.

This is my opinion as well. Each measurement is a new beginning. The previous length/girth never existed.

[Pegasus]

Well, I look forward to hearing, of all the 12" plus peni down the road.

[Dante311]

The adaptability of the cardio-aerobic system is limited by nature and nurture. The physiological processes involved are not similar to PE'S. I see what you're getting out me this and I'm allowing my arrogance to convolute my thought process. One big limitation with pe is the taxing work we provide on cellular proliferation regardless of tissue type. Genetics again plus involvement of how taxing your exercises can alter fibrous tissue concentrations limiting penile growth.. but again that would depend on the taxing work you provide... its beneficial to not treat your penis like a skeletal muscle... its not... but if you're a 'smart' PEer You should theoretically maximize gains and limit scar tissue accumulation. I can hypothetically see +3-4" over y years if the pe is disciplined. And please don't call me a fool... I didn't call you anything... but I arrogantly did attempt to refute your arguement... the aerobic system is STILL much different in limitation than that of altering biologically active tissue concentrations by providing a stress. AlVeolar exchange and o_2 diffusion at the muscle site plus cardiac output limitations are more dependent on genetic limitations and are less adaptable to nurture but do have room for improvement a t relative to penile tissue or skeletal muscle... which are more so.

[Dante311]

Typed out via my phone... sorry for shitty spelling and grammar

[redbear52]

It should be noted that unless and until a bunch of guys volunteer to have their dicks biopsied serially as they do PE, all of this "cellular proliferation" stuff is purely theoretical.

[Starless]

I don't understand why people use this example all the time. It has been proven that the people that "Stretch their necks" don't stretch their necks at all. Its their collar bones and shoulders that are pushed down over time. So if you took that theory into PE, you would be pushing your pubic bone back? I don't think so.

Even if this were true (protip: it's not), there are plenty of other examples. What about ear and lip stretching?