Gaining 3-4" in X years should be VERY possible

[TheGreatDivider]

No injuries?

Oh, all the time!

There was one point where I did some crazy ass routine with 1,000 jelqs to see if that would make me bigger, and I ended up getting purple spotted bruises all over my dick! I had ED for about 4 months after pumping too hard and too long. I've shot blood out of my cock a couple times. A couple skin tears, some sprains, red dots and bruises, an infected pimple that turned into a boil and had to be lanced by a doctor. Lots on injuries over the years!

Now, not so much. The most I get is red spots and minor discoloration. Hanging heavy weights has a lot to do with it, more so than super intense wet jelqs. But all of that disappears in about 4 days maximum, which is why I rotate length and girth days and take 4 complete days off a week.

[TheGreatDivider]

I believe you.Have your gains slowed down since then?

Yes, unfortunately.

In the first 2 years I could gain 1/16"-1/8" a month (.75" to 1.5" year). Now I'm lucky if I can gain .5" in 2 years. I still might be able to gain more, but I have to use a lot more intensity and rest harder to make similar gains.

PE gains slow down with experience.

[dadoxx]

4 days off a weeck really??

[TheGreatDivider]

4 days off a weeck really??

Yes. With higher intensity routines you need more rest.

The number of days you PE a week is not what makes you bigger either. Jelqing everyday or every other day is only good for two things, skill and endurance. Newbies need a lot of practice with certain PE exercises and can do them more often. They can gain off of high rep routines that would only count as a warmup for an experienced veteran.

To get bigger later on you will need to bump up intensity and do everything harder in a shorter period of time with more rest days. You'll need those rest days to recover PIs, during those times when you think you need something extra because you can't get an erection.... When all you really need is some sleep and time off to let your body heal before you do anything else with your penis.

It's like have you ever hung with more than 20lbs? You can do it, just not more than once or twice a week when you've worked up to it. When you heal up completely you PE again, then rest up, then do it again. And it takes more than 2 days off to recover before you do the same exercise again. The trick is cutting back your routine enough to where you heal up between PE sessions... If that makes sense.

[dadoxx]

mmm... now i m for plastic deformation
i "train"(i don t consider this a workout, because it is passive) in pump and extender(vlc tugger) rougtly every day, with no erectile issue
I think i can reach this comfortable way of training going for big volume/ light intensity(i pump light-mid for 20 min every day, and high-max for 5/10 min)so i don t get edema, discoloration or fatigue
because essentially i don t constrict blood flow and i don t compromise microcirculation constricting my penis with metods like jelquing/squeezing,hanging(without LG, that loocks very good),or extender with nose strap


I m not a veteran or an expert but i have red a lot of topic and i found this way to go
i don t think rest is necessary, penis is not a muscle
u have to deform the tissuetes don t going abroad their limit of sopportation

[BigO]

Yes. With higher intensity routines you need more rest.

The number of days you PE a week is not what makes you bigger either. Jelqing everyday or every other day is only good for two things, skill and endurance. Newbies need a lot of practice with certain PE exercises and can do them more often. They can gain off of high rep routines that would only count as a warmup for an experienced veteran.

To get bigger later on you will need to bump up intensity and do everything harder in a shorter period of time with more rest days. You'll need those rest days to recover PIs, during those times when you think you need something extra because you can't get an erection.... When all you really need is some sleep and time off to let your body heal before you do anything else with your penis.

It's like have you ever hung with more than 20lbs? You can do it, just not more than once or twice a week when you've worked up to it. When you heal up completely you PE again, then rest up, then do it again. And it takes more than 2 days off to recover before you do the same exercise again. The trick is cutting back your routine enough to where you heal up between PE sessions... If that makes sense.

I would have to disagree with the last part of your post. Hanging 20 lbs once or twice a week will not give gains, it will create a stronger penis that will stop gaining length, now if you are doing something else on these days off from hanging then maybe you will gain. Total repair is not good for hanging.

You may hang 20 lbs a few times a week but you better be doing some hanging with lighter weight on other days or at least some manual stretching or extending.

[dadoxx]

and bigO what do you think about mine post?

[BigO]

mmm... now i m for plastic deformation
i "train"(i don t consider this a workout, because it is passive) in pump and extender(vlc tugger) rougtly every day, with no erectile issue
I think i can reach this comfortable way of training going for big volume/ light intensity(i pump light-mid for 20 min every day, and high-max for 5/10 min)so i don t get edema, discoloration or fatigue
because essentially i don t constrict blood flow and i don t compromise microcirculation constricting my penis with metods like jelquing/squeezing,hanging(without LG, that loocks very good),or extender with nose strap


I m not a veteran or an expert but i have red a lot of topic and i found this way to go
i don t think rest is necessary, penis is not a muscle
u have to deform the tissuetes don t going abroad their limit of sopportation

I agree with much of your post, I think that rest is a very individual thing. Depending on the type of training one chooses to do. For those that are doing an intense routine a few days off a week may be good for them.

For those that extend or hang for long periods of time I believe ( my opinion) that it is best to go with out many days off, however with this type of program I also think that when a certain number of weeks have been completed a good rest break of 5 to 7 days and maybe even more is a great idea and will keep you fresh, especially mentally.

Me saying that I do not agree with the post by great divide does mean that he is wrong and I am right, it means that we do things differently. He has many years of experience and I am sure he notices when something works and when something does not.


Regardless of what an individual does for a rest routine/rest schedule it should be determined by PI's. Not gaining is one of the best PI's there is and so is EQ.

[TheGreatDivider]

I would have to disagree with the last part of your post. Hanging 20 lbs once or twice a week will not give gains, it will create a stronger penis that will stop gaining length, now if you are doing something else on these days off from hanging then maybe you will gain. Total repair is not good for hanging.

You may hang 20 lbs a few times a week but you better be doing some hanging with lighter weight on other days or at least some manual stretching or extending.

You must have missed that part where I said "when you've worked up to it". It takes a long time to work up to hanging 20lbs or more from the meager 1-5lbs you start with. And your theory is the common light weights over a long time gently stretch the tunica leading to length, and a total bias towards heavy weights and complete repair. If you actually think about what you said it makes no sense.

If you start hanging more wights it doesn't mean you will stop gaining length. The only thing that will stop you from gaining length is if you completely stop doing PE altogether.

Anytime you hang hang weights from your penis you are creating damage that your penis has to heal from and become stronger. It doesn't matter if it's 2lbs for a few hours or 20lbs for 12 minutes. When you hang enough weight from your penis for long enough you create the same demand for your body to heal and make it longer no matter what. None of this penis of steel or whatever theory that's floating out there. I don't know if it's stretching or cell division, and I don't need to know to know that it works.

When did something so simple as PE become all about this school of thought. When you hang you either add more time or more weight. You take time off when feel you need it. And you stay consistent for years. How is that difficult to comprehend? Your theory is not the end all be all of PE. It's just the most popular right now.

I have 1/4" in length I can't explain from hanging more weights than I ever have before in about 6 months time. I'm working with 15lbs now for 2 sets of 16 minutes now, and in the past I've hung 20lbs, a 35lbs kettlebell, and two 25lb plates... all for just a mew minutes at a time.

[BTBrian]

No, I pretty much jelqed and stretched my penis like there was no tomorrow for those 4 years. I didn't exactly have a lot of information at the time, no internet or PE books, and just a very basic guide. So I taught myself a lot of things and ended up using shorter more intense routines and resting more often. I mainly did a lot of stretching then and alternated months of girth focused and length focused routines.

I know a lot of jealous guys try to downplay my gains by saying it was all puberty, but I just point out to them that I have been gaining ever since then. And I don't buy into a lot of the popular PE theories or routine structures. None of that ADS or LOT theory crap! No supplements either. I follow my own routines and my own way. I push with the intensity others are afraid to use.

I'm not saying you didn't gain or that your routine doesn't work because obviously it does, but it's pretty obvious that SOME of your gains were due to puberty. Whether 1" or 3" of gains are due to PE will never be known. However, if you think about that math and what you said in a later post (you said 1/2" every two years is about right now) it would seem pretty logical to me that you were probably growing at about the same rate due to PE the whole time. 1/2"-3/4" every two years were due to PE then that would be 1-1.5" due to PE during those four years and 2.5"-3" due to PE. Either way it doesn't really matter you've got a huge dick now haha.

Also, about routines and structures: If you look at the top performers and evaluate what exercises they did most and what routines they used the pattern clearly shows that most top gainers stuck mostly to stretches and jelqs with high volume (40-90 mins a day of JUST jelqing for example) instead of high intensity/low volume. I personally believe that both styles will allow for similar growth, but the high volume one will require more effort but will also be safer. As opposed to your high intensity/low volume routine which doesn't require much time (that's a big plus) but is clearly not as safe. I think that's the main reason it's not recommended on here. From hearing you talk about your injuries I'd say you're lucky you didn't permanently injure yourself, but you're here now and you have a big schlong so whatever works works!