Thread: kegel queries
- 11-19-2010 #11
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Kegels can be used a number of ways this requires training ,many guys try to run before they can walk.
- 11-21-2010 #14
When I do my normal kegels I breathe in on the contraction and exhale of the release. This keeps me breathing at near a normal rate. Also I focus on tightening the muscle from the front and then lifting up as I get close to the anus. I do feel a tightening around the anus however the PC muscle does go back there. I just visualize the movement as the clinch starts just behind the penis and moves back and then up. I just tried a few and checked the glutes (all 3 muscle heads) and none of them reflexed during the kegel.
Where I am trying to add kegels to all my stretches and squeezes, the breathing helps set the cadence and I count the kegels to control the duration of the exercise. Fast kegels I breathe on every other one and on slower kegels I take a deeper breathe the longer the kegel is held.9/13/10 332#(BPFL1.75xFG3.25),(BPEL3.75xEG4.25)
- 11-21-2010 #15
BTW, on reverse kegels I do the opposite on breathing. I exhaust on the contraction (push) and inhale on the release. So I guess I technically hold my breathe butstill take about 12-15 breathes per minute.
The only kegel I haven't got a good breathing pattern on yet is elevator kegels. Most I can do now is inhale on the contraction and try to breathe normally as I hold and then retighten up to the next floor level. On a good day I get 4 levels so the kegel lasts about 12 seconds, too long for just one breathe.9/13/10 332#(BPFL1.75xFG3.25),(BPEL3.75xEG4.25)
- 11-21-2010 #16
Hmm is your belly lifting when breathing or your chest?
I ask since the stomach naturally inflates a little during reverse kegels (at least for me that is), so would in not be better to breath in while doing a revese kegel (stomach inflates), then breath out when releasing it?
I usually breath with my belly so doing a kegel when inhaling is hard and unnatural for me.
- 11-21-2010 #17
I always breathe through my nose and it for the most part all goes to the lungs. Definitely my chest expands. If anything my belly goes in as my abdominal contracts.
The push I do on the reverse kegel, there is no way I can breathe while actively contracting. But once I get to the hold position, I can breathe at the point.9/13/10 332#(BPFL1.75xFG3.25),(BPEL3.75xEG4.25)
- 11-21-2010 #18
Read a few of this articles.
Since i had lots of anxiety and panic attacks i used to breath allot with mu chest rather than my belly, now i usually breath with my belly but shift to shallow breathing from time to time unconsciously.
Maybe i'm wrong but just in case do this exercise:
A Slow, Deep Diaphragmatic Breathing Exercise
1.Lie down in a comfortable position. Gently place your hand on your belly. Take a deep breath in through your nose and try to have the breath fill your belly so that your belly and your hand rise. This may take some practice. It might help to imagine that your belly is a balloon and as you inhale, you are trying to make the balloon blow up. The chest should not move at all during this first part of the breath.
2.Now as you continue to inhale, let the breath fill the middle and then the top of your lungs. If you do this correctly, you will see that after the belly rises, your ribs and then your chest will also rise, in that order. Once this happens, exhale fully and completely, As you exhale, your chest, ribs and then belly should deflate (i.e. in the opposite order of the inhale).
3.Once you are able to get your belly, ribs and chest to rise on inhale, begin focusing on the timing of your breathing. A good way to do this is to count (in your head) to six while you are inhaling. Pause ever so briefly at the top of the inhale. Then count to 12 as you are exhaling and make the exhale last for the entire count. Again, this will take practice. If you can only count to 4 while you are inhaling, then exhale to 8. Find the numbers that work for you but make the exhale twice as long as the inhale.
4.You can either exhale through your nose or your mouth. If you exhale through your mouth, try to make a sound with the exhale so you can hear that you are exhaling to the full count.
Shallow breathing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now i'm probably mistaken about thinking that you are a shallow breather but it doesn't hurt to say.
- 11-21-2010 #19
Good article Minuteman. That breathing would work well for relaxation. i will remember the cadence the next time I start getting a erection during my flaccid exercises. When that happens I stop and try to relax. Think that type of breathing could help. Besides the thinking on the breathing would take my mind off of what was up.
As far as my normal breathing, it mainly is chest movement and about 12 reps/min (5 seconds each). I have sleep apnea and the mask I use forces me to breathe through my nose, so I always breath that way now.
For myself, when I do a kegel, I try to keep the rest of the body still; be it relaxed, flexed or extensioned. I had read on a kegel website that moving the abdominals or buttock muscles while doing a kegel takes away the effectiveness toward the PC muscle.
- 11-21-2010 #20
I am glad to be of help, somebody also helped me that way on the internet when we where talking about some other topic, and i'm very grateful to him for that.
You should try to do the exercises several times a day or when you are feeling stressed. We humans should in generally use our thoracic diaphragm during regular normal everyday breathing.
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