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- 06-05-2011 #301
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It's not my son, but I let another buddy in on PE. He's going to start this week.
To me, there is no shame in PE. It's no different than when guys first began to lift weights/bodybuild and it was a fringe thing. Now it's mainstream.
- 06-05-2011 #302
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(long post sorry)...
I only wish my dad had done 2 things for me...Im pretty sure my dad has a large penis..but not sure since I only saw it when I was a kid. I know a lot of sons feel this way so its hard to be sure.
Overall, my dad is an open person about these things and never kept secrets about sexuality. Years ago, when I was a teenager I did bring up the topic of being concerned about my penis size. At that time he (a general physician) told me about the fact that most are average, etc etc. I had GF tell me that I was absolutely larger than some and smaller than others...I went though sone penis humiliation by one girl that some describe here...but overall felt I was average or on the small side of average. I had another GF tell me about the multitude of huge penises she had seen...she described one that she said she measured at 11 inches.....making me self conscious of course about my 5 inches at that time....I was about 16 years old I think....so I must have grown another inch as I got older....not sure as I didnt measure very much back then.
(1)I wish that he had NOT had me circumcised....he is NOT...my younger brother is NOT...I dont know why this happened to me. My dad said that he was so excited when I was born that he said yes without thinking it through. We are obviously not Jewish so there was no reason other than "its was the normal thing to do" in the 1960's. I think it was done for the money.
I have seen this done...and I might have even done one when I was in my training (I cant remember as it was 20 years ago)...the baby screams the whole time by the way...very very painful as far as I could tell...and very easy to make a mistake with the little device that is used.
At 45 Im used to it and it was done well so not a major problem...although my glans is getting cracked and dried out....Along with PE Im considering foreskin restoration...but its is a lot of work to do both...Im a surgeon with my own practice to run and as such sometimes a very busy person.....I do have some time to work on PE here and there in the evening and on weekends...and my wife is understanding about the whole thing. (although I would not want my 11 year old daughter to walk in on me hanging weights. Nor do I want her to get obsessed with the idea that somehow a large penis is "better" since her dad was always working on one...)
My wife is a wonderful human being and is understanding about my feelings.... somewhat....she is a dermatologist and skin surgeon... so she has offered to give me a skin graft to accelerate the foreskin restoration...but I prefer the natural way and Im not sure where the skin graft would come from anyway....At work, she sees a variety of (hopefully non-erect..ha ha) penises at work.....daily....and she swears I am average. She has zero interest in my having a change to my penis. We have had sexual problems over the years based upon her childhood issues and a strange fetish that she developed as a child which scares the hell out of her..(another story)....but I dont think she has that much interest in penis size...my wife does not have orgasms from intercourse...only from self stimulation and its very difficult for her...but it does happen. Of course, initially I blamed her lack of orgasms on my "small" penis...but now I know that this is far from the case. I had good luck with GF's before marriage so Im not sure why I got so obsessed with this issue...but for many of you guys...Im sure you understand. Many women have a very difficult time getting to orgasm...and many simply dont care about getting there that much anyway. Most of them just dont have our sexual needs.
That has nothing to do with my own feelings though...as you all know. I want this for ME. I'm not sure why its so important...but it is as you all know.
I did see that article claiming that uncut penises are bigger on average and I find that disturbing. I dont find that my skin is tight so perhaps in my case it made no difference...however, in a society that emphasizes penis size....WHY IN THE HECK WOULD ANYONE ALLOW THEIR SON TO HAVE PART OF THEIR PENIS CUT OFF???? And its a large part of it too by total surface area. Look at all of us trying to ADD to our penises.....cutting part of it off?? That seems to be the height on insanity to me.
If you ask me its child abuse and it should be illegal until the child is at least 18 and can rightfully CONSENT for himself.
There are ZERO proven benefits...its just doctors wanting to do procedures.trust me I know all about surgeons...as I happen to be one.....and there have been many needless medical mistakes during the procedure....horrible mistakes involving total destruction of the penis and then ruining the child's like by trying to raise them as a girl....I dont think anyone knows how many mistakes (mutilations and even loss of the glans or the entire penis) have been made.
To me even if you think you want this done to your baby boy...well....its just not worth the danger to operate on such a small penis...much safer when its grown. Plus when the man is grown they can CONSENT to having this done....
I truly believe that I would have naturally grown a larger penis if it had not been circumcised. I realize that there are many circumcised penises that are very very large...but uncut even looks larger.
Its a bizarre practice that makes no sense. We would not cut the nipples off baby girls...
Female genital mutilation is considered a crime....at least in our country...and is still done to girls by certain cultural groups and forced upon the girl. Ill admit that having the foreskin removed is not as horrible as having the clitoris cut off...but its really the same idea. Can you possibly imagine having someone cut into the genitals of your daughter? Im looking at my daughter right now and the idea of such a thing makes me ill.
(2) I wish that he had told me about the possibility of PE when I was growing up. I absolutely remember thinking about the size and I would have done exercises at least (other than the normal teen exercises..ha ha..). I think he felt it would naturally be growing to a good size similar to his own. I also think that he was absolutely unaware that anything like that was possible....but mostly I think he would not have felt that it was important.
Im sure that if this work had been done during that time that the penis was naturally growing it could have resulted in a larger penis on the higher end of normal instead of the average one that I have.
Although my particular specialty (luckily) does not involve examining penises or vaginas....during my training I saw my fair share.
I can tell you that im my case, I DID witness a good number of HUGE penises when I was working. I do NOT believe that the studies are correct. I do believe that there are MANY men with very very large penises....I particularly remember one night in the emergency room I was taking care of a very ill black man. My job was to place a Foley catheter into the penis and into the bladder.
This penis was so long that I could not pass the catheter and the resident (a female) saw me struggling and did the job for me (with the patient cursing at us the whole time...). This penis was beyond anything that I have seen in porn. Beyond Lex or Mandingo. It was at least 18 inches. So I found this to be very intimidating. When I saw the man's wife however, I understood. She had a gigantic rear end and it would have been impossible to penetrate this womans vagina without such a long penis! So there you go, different people fit together differently.
In another case I took care of a white patient with prostate cancer. In preparing for that surgery we also had to place a Foley catheter. This was at least 9-10 inches flaccid.
Yes I saw the opposite also. Absolutely saw one in the 4 inch range.
Anyway...I digress.....
If I ever have a son....just one 11 year old daughter at the moment...trying to convince my wife to have one more child....
I WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT NOT NOT have his body mutilated. If he wishes to have something done to cut part of his penis off when he is older (and proper anesthesia unlike NONE which is what the newborn babies are given)...that would be his choice and I would support him (after trying to talk him out of it of course)...
And YES ..if I ever have a son...my own or adopted...I will absolutely talk to him about PE at the onset of puberty. Perhaps around age 12 to 13...as all children mature at different rates.
Yes this discussion needs to be undertaken very carefully. You do not want to imply that your son is less of a man or that penis size is important to anyone but himself....and you want to give him the option of not doing anything and leave it at that....but its a perfect conversation to have with your son...and you should tell your son that masturbation is perfectly normal...and that he might even want to incorporate PE exercises into his natural activity to help the penis grow larger...if he wants to.....his choice...no pressure....maybe discuss it a couple times...make sure he gets the point...make sure he feels comfortable asking questions..and understands safety issues and that he should come to you with any concerns about injury.
I think its a wonderful thing to do for a growing boy and he will thank your for it for the rest of his life. Obviously you should set some size parameters as he will have no idea what is normal, you should be VERY VERY careful to discuss SAFETY, and much more importantly you must be supportive in all aspects of his sexuality without being judgemental in any way. I know from personal experience that this is also a period when fetishes can develop if the child is not aware that his sexuality is normal and can be discussed and questioned in the correct setting. You have to make sure he understands there is NOTHING to be ashamed about, that masturbation is done by everyone and is a 100% normal part of life, and that anyone who says that they dont do it or makes fun of him regarding this issue is ignorant and probably a liar.
HELP YOUR SONS!!!Last edited by averageguy6; 06-05-2011 at 07:02 PM.
- 06-06-2011 #303
I don't have a son but if I do which I hope will happen I will most definatly tell my son about PE when he hits 16. As a teenager I never had enough time to go out on dates or anything. My mum needs me because she is ill, depressed the whole lot. As a single mother I felt I had to be by her side because she went through a lot of shit I wish she didn't have to experience. For this reason I rarely dated. Therefore as a substitute I began watching porn to 'stimulate' what sex may be like (I think that's the correct term).
Porn has ruined my views on real sex, penis size and woman. I'm hoping I can teach my son the things that took me so long to learn and that is PE. Although it's not about the size of the boat and it's more about the motion of the ocean I believe the bigger the guy is the better for his partner. A guy with a bigger penis will be at a better advantage in comparison to a guy who is smaller. I don't care if the smaller guy has skills. The bigger guy can gain skills and learn through experience. The smaller guy cannot compensate. He has a small dick/small girth therefore the girl feels it less.
With that being said I will make sure my son knows what PE is. I think it will give him an opportunity not only to increase his penis size but to also increase his stamina and overall penis health. It also improves nutshots LOL. It would be unfair to be honest not to tell him. I know how hard it is to have a small penis in todays society. With all the porn around women would expect a guy to have at least 6 inches or more. By telling my son about PE I will give him the knowledge of how he can increase his size. Of course if he decides to do PE or not is up to him. I will tell him when he is at least 16 because that is when his testosterone level is going insane and he is going to want pussy like nothing else. I will probably let him in on PE by asking him how his relationships with girl is and then go on to talking about PE. I will however make sure I tell him that don't let penis size hold you back like it did to me. A bigger penis doesn't make you a better lover. A bigger penis is just that. A bigger penis. It has the WOW factor. Either way you're going to have to use your hands and mouth for the pleasure of the girl.A wise man learns from the mistakes of others, an idiot learns from his own.
- 06-06-2011 #304
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Let's teach our sons the value of being a man; dick size has nothing to do with that!
The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!
- 06-06-2011 #305
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Always first and foremost, CUSP82. Don't let your son in on PE if you're not doing all the basic things a father should do first. Fathers have to build a solid foundation for their sons first. If they choose to introduce their son to PE, be it during his early, middle, or late teens, they should always make sure it's in the proper context of sexual health/puberty/etc. By doing so, a father can actually dispel the myths that porn and popular culture instill in our sons that size makes you a stud. The reality is our sons are inundated with size references in music, movies (both regular and porn), TV, and the locker room. Fathers who do choose to introduce their sons to PE would be very wise to put it in the proper context of life. It's exercise, just like any other exercise. It doesn't make you a man to have big muscles or a big dick, but character, integrity, grit, etc. do. Thank you for reminding us that PE has a proper place, and it's only a tiny sliver of what we really should be teaching our sons.
To me, there is no shame in PE. It's no different than when guys first began to lift weights/bodybuild and it was a fringe thing. Now it's mainstream.
- 06-06-2011 #306
I don't know how to quote a single sentence so sorry if I take up space. I've never had a father he left my mother whilst she was pregnant. So I wouldn't know how show fatherly love to my son. Then again I guess it comes naturally. I won't teach my son to do PE because it gives you a bigger, healthier, and overall better dick. No. It's the same as any other exercise. Do it if it makes you feel good or don't do it. If you have a small penis it doesn't mean you can't keep your girl happy. If she loves you she wouldn't care and let it come in the way.
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- 06-06-2011 #307
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It is the same old story. Relationships, life, marriages,and the world really doesn't boil down to large genitalia.There are some people who's junk doesn't work.Are they not still capable of being wonderful people, great husbands and wonderful lovers? The women on here have said it over and over again;dick size doesn't matter. Oh I know it just the wacky women that we have on here that say that; real women know that a bigger dick is always better!
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- 06-06-2011 #308
I think it's all dependant upon the couple. If there's no passion then the relationship just won't work and it will eventually fall apart. As far as willies go, having a bigger willy can contribute maybe to better oral. The vagina is most sensitive three inches in and it's clit which is visible. So bigger doesn't mean better.
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- 06-06-2011 #309
Can't agree enough... That was the first thing I told my son. My son and I have a very open approach to discussing sexuality and he has asked me all the questions he needed answered when he was a teenager. I was the first person he told when he lost his virginity. I appreciated that he felt that he could share it with me.
Mentioned that to my son too and explained the wonderful, glorious effect of sensual, warming, longlasting foreplay. I went so far to say that once he lost his virginity I want him to try one night to satisfy his girlfriend without penetration. He was stumped, lost for words.... and could not understand that it would be possible. We discussed the whole idea openly.
Will I tell my son about PE? If he would rely on a huge penis only to satisfy his wife, I will not even bother. I do PE for me... and I am not relying on it to substitute foreplay and technique.Life is not a dress rehearsal, it is the final play.
- 06-06-2011 #310
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To me, there is no shame in PE. It's no different than when guys first began to lift weights/bodybuild and it was a fringe thing. Now it's mainstream.
Congrats, bro!
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