Thread: Tunica vs. MrMonroe!... FIGHT!
- 02-23-2011 #1
Cue the mortal kombat music.
I've posted before about my tunica, but this time I want to ask about my routine, rather than the tunica in general.
Currently I do a 1:1 ratio of tunica:smooth muscle routine, but that didn't work. So I was thinking a routine like this: V-bends 8 minutes, A-bends 2 minutes, bundled stretches 5 minutes, basic side-to-side stretching for 5 minutes, and to completely ignore smooth muscle until I see that I need to work it.
What do you guys think?
Also, I read the TGC Theory article, as well as an article on betterman.com about tunica vs. ligs.... so telling me to read those won't help me lol.
- 02-23-2011 #2
V bends and A bends? Do you mean V and A stretches? Or flaccid or erect bends with the fulcrum placed on the ventral and dorsal sides?
I'll assume you meant stretches.
Looks good, do your side to side stretches upwards, possibly bundle those too. I think longer holds may be better, heat will be good.
20 minutes stretching should be good, try to make all that time or most of it actually under stretch. Ie minimise switching grips etc or if you do switch grips compensate for that by adding more time.
What schedule do you intend to follow?
What length gains have you had so far? Are you've maximised lig gains? Is this just based on the tgc theory?Foreskins are friends.
- 02-23-2011 #3
Oh yeah, I meant stretches. What I do with V stretches is I hold it at the base for 30 seconds, switch hands, hold it at the base for 30 more seconds, switch hands, move up the base a bit, hold it for 30 more seconds there, switch hands, etc. until I reach the glans 4 shifts later. Then I repeat for a total of 8 minutes. Actually, while we're on this topic, how hard should I be holding these stretches?
So you're suggesting I do stretching upwards (toward my bully button) instead of side to side? Hm.. I'll try that. Thanks for the suggestion.
All of my times are based on how long I hold the stretch instead of how long it takes to complete the routine. It actually takes closer to 30 minutes because of grip switches, random erections, and whatever else.
Currently I was on a 1 on 1 off routine, but I was thinking 2 on 1 off 2 on 2 off for this one (4 times a week, essentially). What do you think about that?
I've done PE for almost 1.5 years now, and I've gained about 1.3" in length, and nothing in girth. Whenever I did girth I only had an increase in EQ. After reading the TGC theory article, I've come to this conclusion.
- 02-23-2011 #4
Ahh ok thanks for the answer, well S2S's are usually done downwards but that's more of a lig stretch, so I say if you're going to them do them upwards to attempt to hit the tunica better.
It's good that you time your stretches that way, TUL (or time under load) is important.
4 times a week may be ok but it may be a little tame since you've been PE'ing for 18 months, it also depends how long your plateau has been I suppose.Foreskins are friends.
- 02-23-2011 #5
This is a bit of a late response on my part, but 4 times a week wouldn't be enough? Hmm... my plateau, with respect to girth, has been for the entire time I've been PEing. I'm still gaining length at a rate of about 1-3mm per month if I even do less than 10 minutes of length work 3 times a week.
The past 3 months I've laid off length in attempt to gain girth, but I'm sure I'll start gaining once I get back into it.
How does 3on1off2on1off sound, then? That's 5 times a week. I don't know how well I'd be able to keep up a 6 times a week routine.
Also, with regards to warm-ups, how long do you think I need to warm up if I'm using a cup full of warm water pressed up against my pelvic bone.
- 02-23-2011 #6
Haha I had no idea you were talking about going for girth. My bad I suppose. I was actually going to suggest girth exercises just to attempt to expand the tunica in a different direction as it were.
If you're after girth then maybe do girth work aswell.
I haven't decided yet for myself whether I'm going to do tunica WHILE I'm going for girth or for some time before to allow girth gains to come quicker once I start doing girth work.
That's your call really.Foreskins are friends.
- 02-23-2011 #7
The thing with my gains is that whenever I do girth work (like Ulis, Squeezes, etc.) I don't gain any girth, I just get more veiny and harder. Apparently this is a sign that my tunica is my limiting factor, and a pretty big one considering how long it's been happening. I figured that I should really focus on expanding my tunica before I continue to do any girth work.
- 02-23-2011 #8
Fair enough, let me/ us know how that works out because as I say I don't know how I'll approach it when it comes to it.
As for how hard you should pull, I think with your experience you know your limits and can try to find a comfortable 'sensation' of stretch or pressure within the shaft as opposed to in the ligaments.
By the way, I'd do a bit more reading than just the tgc theory and that article on betterman
I'll dig up some more less-known tunica based stretches and provide some links. You still have a way to go with this routine should it not provide results ie. Bundle the V and A stretches.
You could even consider doing blasters while you're in the A stretch, or in fact while you're in any of the stretches.
As for schedule, that's still upto you. Consider what schedules have worked best for you in the past for your length gains.
Warm-up, again your call. 15 minutes would be good but that's with steady heat, by that I mean if your penis is as hot as it's going to get after 10 minutes and then the water starts to cool significantly then don't leave it for another 5.
For guys that use your warm-up method I've seen them only warm up until 'equilibrium. Which means like I've said above, until your penis reaches close a temperature close to that of the water, because that's as hot as it's going to get.
For me, I try to stay as warm as I can throughout the session so that may mean stretching in front of a heater or having a second warm up. I'd like to think I'll be even more diligent with this when it comes to focus tunica work, because from what I'm aware heat is important for most in tunica deformation and girth gains.
Long winded post, apologies.Foreskins are friends.
- 02-23-2011 #9
No worries, I actually prefer longer posts because they're usually more informative.
I actually have a progress log which you can find if you look through my posts. I stopped posting there this month because I was only experimenting with girth exercises and how I feel about them. Come March, I'll definitely resume giving weekly updates, and monthly measurements.
Thanks a lot for the help, by the way.
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