Claims and Gains

[amiok]

i agree with Z man's devil's advocate. Dudes who make up bs stories hurt the process. They make people give up or hurt themselves by trying too hard

[Steve23]

Newbies lately are trying the 'more is more' approach and I'm sure it wont end well for them or they will give up before trying the 'less is more' because that just doesn't make sense to some of them. I don't see how some people will just think you will grow an extra inch or two in 1 month out of nowhere.

[DemOne]

Newbies lately are trying the 'more is more' approach and I'm sure it wont end well for them or they will give up before trying the 'less is more' because that just doesn't make sense to some of them. I don't see how some people will just think you will grow an extra inch or two in 1 month out of nowhere.

It's all of those damn pill ads and commercials that get people into thinking like that. Trouble is that a lot of people just don't want to not believe what they see and hear in ads and it takes some tough love to beat the truth into them.


Some of these whole 1"-2" gains in such a short time may be real, but it's always accompanied by the poster saying they've had a massive increase in EQ or they were battling ED at the same time, or even effects of excessive masturbation. Gains like that in those situations are very likely to be true, but it seems people just want to group every person into the same category when it comes to gains, which is what I've been seeing with the "You have no issue with user 1 for saying he gained that but why an issue with user 2 for the same thing?" attitude lately.
Someone starting out with ED or other sexual issues where EQ wont be near 90%-100% and gaining 1"-2" in a short while is nothing like a young dude showing up and claiming the same gains in the same time but having started out with no physical issues and full blown 90%-100% EQ.

[jim2327]

I'm an example of this. 1/4 inch girth in 5 weeks but I very clearly said that I believe the vast majority of this to be due to better EQ as a result of beginning PE. I think most people are realistic but we are in an age of quick fixes so who really knows.

[Gravik]

I still don't see how people can gain 1.5" in length and 1" girth in 3 months. When I see those results, I smell BS.

[Closed039]

And of course the question is, why would you ever lie about your gains? It seems absolutely ridiculous - you'd really have to be a fucking loser.

[DemOne]

And of course the question is, why would you ever lie about your gains? It seems absolutely ridiculous - you'd really have to be a fucking loser.

Now that's a question that will never have an answer. It's just like those 13 year old kids who talk like they're badasses on XboX Live or kids with facebooks trying to act like gangsters.

People do dumb shit trying to get attention to boost their egos.

[Gravik]

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Same reason why people lie about their size too.

[TheSnitch]

We don't request you post pictures of before and after to make a claim, but we should be cataloguing verified gains (how verification works, I don't know) in order to quantify data and give people realistic time lines for progress and exercises that work.

This is NOT a business, but it doesn't mean we can't provide customer service like data and material to new people. The better we do as heralds of PE the more men can benefit from it's PROPER use and can hopefully boost some confidences, save some marriages, ease some anxiety in a growing population of insecure men.

I would absolutely love to be able to say to a new comer with real data in my hand "If you work at it and follow this routine you can expect ..... in .... time - in 86% of men this is the case." Something like that.

I would be very interested in getting some people on board for some real data collection, hammer out best practices with measuring and recording, weeding out what exercises are superfluous and finding a real gain/time graph our new members and lurkers and really hold on too for inspiration and guidance.

[superpp]

I still don't see how people can gain 1.5" in length and 1" girth in 3 months. When I see those results, I smell BS.

This maybe possible Length wise but 1inch in girth hmmm.....or someone may gain alot of length in 3months and not much girth, or alot of girth but little or no length.....but when people lie about 'gains' THEY ARE SIMPLY FOOLING THEMSELVES......i am also a newbee but i have common sense and if i have doubts i will ask [most are willing to help anyway!!!! ], plus i would sometimes try the 'more is more' and sometimes 'less is more'.....if i stretch and i get a bit sore i ease up, if i feel like i didnt get a good work out i go harder or lengthen the session a bit... If i dont feel like doing PE i rest do nothing at all and let the body heal.... FOR THE ORIGINAL POST.....Thanks for making us NEWbeeS a bit more cautious....