Is there any wonder why gains vary so wildly?

[rbi99]

DemOne, we are on the same page more than we aren't. I agree with you fully with your response. He does not know what gains he has made because he made a classic error in measurement (or lack thereof). I think that it is possible that tunica layering does not make one girthier or less girthier. I work my unit very hard and have been thinking outside the box for quite some time now. I had a good amount of girth to begin with, but growth has come very slow considering I am going on three years of steady PE. Length is the same thing, except I gave up on length exercises a while back due to lack of progress. I think tunica layering is indicated by growth, not your start size. And yes, technique and determination are very key additional factors. There are guys here who started big and grew steadily, there are smaller guys here who grew slowly.

[TurtleProblems]

There are pro's and con's with each group.
Those with a single layer tunica may gain faster but also can loose faster having need of more maintenance and harder to cement while others with more may have to work harder to gain but do with less injuries and have an easier time cementing the gains due to more fibers all together. Pro's and con's. I am one which have to work hard to gain but even when I have slacked I have not lost anything at all. All though right now I have not gained in a while but a tad of length due to traction wrapping for cementing and flaccid length, what I put into to it is still there. More fibers all together. Pro's and con's.
Personally, I would rather work hard to gain do to this than gain fast and lose some from less fibers to deal with.

I think there might be something to this. Like the guys with hard flaccid, like I used to have. They probably have 3 layers, and their tunica just doesn't want to expand enough with most exercises. It sure seems to be the case for me, so i'm thinking I have 3 layers. Like if I do jelqing, I get veins, hardness and length, but never anything noticeable in girth, tunica don't want to expand enough for those girth gains. Now with pumping it's a different story, I get very massive girth gains but not anything in length, but how could that be? Hanging, I get nothing at all but a lower EQ.

But even pumping is tricky for me, in order for me to stretch the tunica thoroughly, I must do very long low pressure (2-3hg) sessions. High pressure short sessions can get me a good pumped size quickly, but it's not the same. The overly high pressure (7-10hg) just makes the tunica layers even more tougher. Now the long low pressure sessions are differen't. Overall I get the same expansion (it may take longer to reach that point) of the high pressure routine, but the tunica doesn't become so toughened.

Generally the end goal being a bigger, not a harder penis.

[pterodactyl]

How long are your low pressure sessions? ^

My routine is usually 3 sets of 10 minutes at about 5hg which seems like pretty high pressure to me. 7 - 10hg seems like WAY too much.

[TurtleProblems]

How long are your low pressure sessions? ^

My routine is usually 3 sets of 10 minutes at about 5hg which seems like pretty high pressure to me. 7 - 10hg seems like WAY too much.

Normally 1 hour with 20-30 minute sets, but since dropping down to 2-3 I can pretty much go alot longer with zero negatives. 1-4 hours. When I went up to 2 hours I broke out of a slight plateau I've been in, and now midshaft girth is catching up with base. Some of these times might seem as if they're just as extreme as high pressure, so caution should be taken and it's not for everyone.

[BigO]

Thanks for this thread PEWarrior. I believe i am typeIII. Long, thin, and rigid. Even in the pump i dont realy get very much girth expansion. I do get .5 to .75in length though. Something to think about for sure.

That is a trip, I am the opposite. Just goes to show how different everyone is. I would kill to get a 3/4 inch increase in length from the pump after a session. I am jealous of the flying lizard!

[DemOne]

DemOne, we are on the same page more than we aren't. I agree with you fully with your response. He does not know what gains he has made because he made a classic error in measurement (or lack thereof). I think that it is possible that tunica layering does not make one girthier or less girthier. I work my unit very hard and have been thinking outside the box for quite some time now. I had a good amount of girth to begin with, but growth has come very slow considering I am going on three years of steady PE. Length is the same thing, except I gave up on length exercises a while back due to lack of progress. I think tunica layering is indicated by growth, not your start size. And yes, technique and determination are very key additional factors. There are guys here who started big and grew steadily, there are smaller guys here who grew slowly.

Huh? This is my first post on this thread and now I'm confused as hell. Is there an older post of mine that got deleted? If so, why?

[Steve23]

I don't see any deleted posts.

[pterodactyl]

That is a trip, I am the opposite. Just goes to show how different everyone is. I would kill to get a 3/4 inch increase in length from the pump after a session. I am jealous of the flying lizard!

We can be jealous of each other then lol

[pterodactyl]

Normally 1 hour with 20-30 minute sets, but since dropping down to 2-3 I can pretty much go alot longer with zero negatives. 1-4 hours. When I went up to 2 hours I broke out of a slight plateau I've been in, and now midshaft girth is catching up with base. Some of these times might seem as if they're just as extreme as high pressure, so caution should be taken and it's not for everyone.

Thanks Turtle. Im going to try 20 - 30 minute sets at 3hg and work out a routine from there. I do appreciate the info.

[pterodactyl]

Just did my first full 30 minutes at 3hg and WOW. Never had expansion like this. My flaccid looked like my erection only hanging down =) Turtle you are the man. Gonna try for 2 or 3 more sets today within the next 4 hours.