No gains at all (part b)

[Stumpy]

I started posting this in another thread but I didn't want to hijack the OP's thread or discourage his PE journey.

Many here have claimed 1" X .5" gains in the first 3 months doing the same thing I did for the first 3 months. My penis is either vastly different or those that make those claims are full of shit.

ColtAR ... my story is similar to yours, but without the .25" gains!!

I've often wondered if there are people who can't gain, or will find it very, very difficult ... and whether sites like this (not intentionally) create a false impression of what's possible or likely.

The following figures are just for discussions sake, but ...

Let's just say there are 10,000 members of this site. And say that in any one month there's only a couple of hundred of those posting. And of those, about half are making gains. That's just 1% of the members who are confirming (or claiming) gains. [Note: I know those are very rubbery numbers].

But from reading the posts, you would assume that something like 50% are gaining at any one time.

I have no doubt that there are thousands of guys who quietly pass through without making gains at all. And for lots of reasons: they're not hungry enough for gains; poor technique; lack of commitment, life gets in the way ... or perhaps a physical predisposition not to gain?

Of course, there may be guys who gain without making a post ... but I'd suggest they'd be fewer in number.

Just a theory.

I don't think there are too many posters on this site who are full of shit ... and when they are they're fairly obvious. But I do think the lack of rigorous, peer reviewed studies into PE make it difficult to know with any precision the likelihood and extent of gains.

Sites like this provide enough evidence to know that PE is real, it works, and that some amazing gains are possible ... for some guys.

[I'm hoping I've expressed this in a way that isn't seen as an attack on the credibility of this site or PE ... and despite my lack of gains, I ain't giving up yet!!!]

[Herbivore]

I'm not exactly sure. I personally think my EQ got worse lol but when it is good I definitely measure more than I ever have meaning I have gained? Or maybe my EQ was always shit? Well, actually, I still easily measure 5 1/4" girth on a shiiiit EQ so I must have gained cause my starting was 5 1/8" at the most. Anyway, I'm not completely sold, yet, but I hope my EQ can get better and I'm going to continue until I gain some more to the point where it will be 100% obvious this works. I know in my signature I said it works but that's more motivation if anything. I don't yet fully believe it.

[Stumpy]

I spelt 'gains' wrong in the thread title!!! (It's now corrected.)

My OCD is not going to let me cope with this!!!!

[Stumpy]

... I hope my EQ can get better and I'm going to continue until I gain some more to the point where it will be 100% obvious this works.

EQ gains are another interesting aspect of PE.

If PE helps you to fully 'inflate' what you have, that's fantastic for several reasons. But is it a real gain ... or "growth"?

I'd argue that it isn't. Yes ... it's a good thing ... but not real penis growth ... just optimal inflation of what you already have.

Good luck with it Incognitopad

[ColtAR-15]

I started posting this in another thread but I didn't want to hijack the OP's thread or discourage his PE journey.



ColtAR ... my story is similar to yours, but without the .25" gains!!

I've often wondered if there are people who can't gain, or will find it very, very difficult ... and whether sites like this (not intentionally) create a false impression of what's possible or likely.

The following figures are just for discussions sake, but ...

Let's just say there are 10,000 members of this site. And say that in any one month there's only a couple of hundred of those posting. And of those, about half are making gains. That's just 1% of the members who are confirming (or claiming) gains. [Note: I know those are very rubbery numbers].

But from reading the posts, you would assume that something like 50% are gaining at any one time.

I have no doubt that there are thousands of guys who quietly pass through without making gains at all. And for lots of reasons: they're not hungry enough for gains; poor technique; lack of commitment, life gets in the way ... or perhaps a physical predisposition not to gain?

Of course, there may be guys who gain without making a post ... but I'd suggest they'd be fewer in number.

Just a theory.

I don't think there are too many posters on this site who are full of shit ... and when they are they're fairly obvious. But I do think the lack of rigorous, peer reviewed studies into PE make it difficult to know with any precision the likelihood and extent of gains.

Sites like this provide enough evidence to know that PE is real, it works, and that some amazing gains are possible ... for some guys.

[I'm hoping I've expressed this in a way that isn't seen as an attack on the credibility of this site or PE ... and despite my lack of gains, I ain't giving up yet!!!]

Some valid points. Its such a rarity to hear of guys not being able to gain here that it could really distort reality. Its kind of like if you look at the "introduce yourself" section. I have noticed that of the members that post their stats apx half have 5.5" or more EG. It has made me feel small as hell and really doubt the size studies.

[Break]

lol they are full of shit.
i thought i had 6.2 girth, then i read the lifestyles study of how they got the numbers
its average of top mid and base girth
turns out im 5.9
sucks... i need 6.25 to be satisfied
but girls only need about 5
so who the fuck cares... on your deathbed the last thing you will want is a .25 increase man.
Romanticism. women cum in the brain.

im also very doubtful of all these claims of growth,
Pumping doesnt count IMO cus it just increases skin size and makes your cock look like overboiled sausage.
I really want to hit 6.75 Average erect girth,
Has it been done??

[Stumpy]

It has made me feel small as hell and really doubt the size studies.

I appreciate what you're saying but I think you can take some comfort from the multitude of reputable studies of penis length and girth. More than that though, stats from condom manufacturers support the studies and when you're talking about a business which is driven by the almighty dollar ... well I have confidence in those numbers.

As to why the stats for PEGym members don't seem conform, I don't really know. As I've posted elsewhere, you cannot take this as a random or representative sample. And it certainly reinforces that you can't automatically extrapolate the posted results of the group to the individual.

[faithandhope]

Ive been at it for 3 months and havent had ANY gains whatsoever :\

[ColtAR-15]

Ive been at it for 3 months and havent had ANY gains whatsoever :\

Same thing here . Check my log out.

[OnTheFence]

Same thing here . Check my log out.

what routines did you guys use? I have been at it for 2 weeks, no gains so far, but will keep trying, I think it just takes awhile for certain people to gain, I still believe if one persist, gains will come.

One thing for sure is, if you consistently apply action to your penis, it will alter based on your actions, I had always been choking the chicken with my left hand, and now my dick is tilted to the right, not curved, but pointing to the right when exiting the pubic bone, this just shows that consistent action alter penis form, if manual exertions are made toward gains, it will also come