PE And Masturbation: When & how?

[Beaumont]

So I've come to a definiate conclusion..

Me and my just-about-average sized penis will be spending a lot more 'alone time' together over the next few months. My sex life has hardly been exciting since.. well forever, and looking back on it, it was always insecurity that held me back.

So here's my plan, a two pronged attack!

- Firstly I'm going to start the beginners routine listed on this website, and progress with it based on my own instincts - carefully and consistently (I've picked up a few things from lurking on here, so much good advice being given)

- But just as importantly for me, I want to learn to control my ejaculation. I'm going to begin with edging, stopping at the 'point of no return' and good hard work on my kegals, eventually I'll learn to hold back orgasm and keep going. Needless to say though, this training is going to require a lot of trial and error, and probably a lot of ejaculation along the way.

So here's my question (and thanks for reading so far): How does frequent masturbation affect your progress in PE and jelqing? Does it diminish progress? And especially important - is there a certain way of integrating them into a weekly routine that would yeald the best results? I'm open to any ideas and suggestions. If anything I've written here has brought to mind some advice you want to share with me, i'm sure it will be a great help.

Thanks for your time,

B.

[sacredrealm]

Hey,
I'm doing a similar thing.

Since I have had no sex so far I also thought I'd use the time to work on myself in this way.

I masterbate whenever I am horny enough. I am working on trying to not do it out of compulsion and only when I really want to as I wonder if it might help to leave it abit more often or not.

I always edge. I haven't purposfuly ejaculated for a few years now. I am always working on furthering my stamina atm, and not loose energy by ejaculating all the time (although it doesn't seem to effect everyone that way).
Yes I have accidently ejaculated alot before but I'm getting better and can go for longer each time it seems.

IMO if anything masterbating with edging doesn't harm gains and may even help.
My instincts feel that ejaculating all the time might hamper them abit but I don't know that.

[Beaumont]

Good to hear from someone in a similar position Sacredrealm. Have you tried practicing clamping the PC muscles down before the point of no return to stop ejaculation? That's my long term goal once my PC muscles are strong enough.

[newtope25]

I personally like to edge at the end of my sessions, I like to get it as big and as hard as I can and keep it there for awhile. I cant say how much it helps, but I notice my PIs are better when I do this. As far as frequency, I would limit it enough so it doesn't effect your PIs. So if you can comfortably edge/masturbate daily and have it not effect your PIs in a negative way then go ahead. Just make sure you listen to your body. I personally go 1 on 1 off.

On a side note... STOP BEING INSECURE! Especially if your letting the size of you member hold you back. I dont care what size you are, women generally dont care. I have a really good friend who is overweight, hairy, has bad habits, and has a below average penis. Every girl he has been with openly admits he is the best sex they have had. He cares about their needs, thats what is important.
And if you are insecure about your looks, then work on it. If its weight go to the gym, PM me if you need help with workouts and diet. If you are worried about looks, simple, find fashion trends that support who you are. Find hairstyles that again support who you are. SO dont try and change things to look like the dudes from twilight, but figure out how you want to appear in order to be confident in who you are.

[sacredrealm]

Good to hear from someone in a similar position Sacredrealm. Have you tried practicing clamping the PC muscles down before the point of no return to stop ejaculation? That's my long term goal once my PC muscles are strong enough.

Yeah! Same.
And yes....I do that! The thing is sometimes it seems best to try to completley relax and not touch it as sometimes clamping then at the wrong moment can make it ejaculate, and sometimes the clamp of the muscle is needed. I can only tell in the moment of it. I guess those situation are at the very last second. But I also clamp down abit when nearing that point to delay getting there.

Of course many times I have clamped and it hasn't been quite enough to stop all of it sadly. But it improves as I go and just earlier today I had a moment where I unexpectedley got to that point of no return (its psychological I think), and I had to all out clamp my hardest and focus on not letting it through no matter what (had to go onto knees and grit teeth hah), and it worked. I then followed with the P.E session I was preparing for which would have been called off otherwise hah.
Hopefuly all this will actually help in the real situation though rather than it being a whole new difficulty but I'll see.

And newtope25.....Atleast for me personaly I don't feel much in particular holds me back. I may be abit "shy" but I don't think that would hold me back if I was in a situaion where I had a chance as I'm still "horny" hah.
I just may not have been in the right places yet or something. I don't go "clubbing" or anything or even drink.
I have online dating profiles but haven't got some out of it yet.
I also don't want to follow a fashion I just want to be me.
When I say I want to work on my look/self its not because I feel its not good enough its more just I want to expand/improve anyway I guess.
If girls claim to not care about looks I'm not sure I beleive that anyway hah.

[newtope25]

Sacred. What are you into then? If its books go to the bookstore. Clubbing is a terrible place to meet women, I used to do that. Its good for a one nighter but nothing more usually. Look into the bookstore, go to the sections you enjoy and read. At some point a girl will go to one of these sections, and then talk about the section you are in. Me I love to cook, I met current girlfriend in the cooking section. Which in my store happens to be right next to business, and diet and health. So three sections of interest all in one area. I pop a squat and read. See someone I like, then we have a conversation starter already... the books we are looking at. Looks dont matter trust me. I live in a very large town with some big schools. Some of the very cute girls I see run around with these guys that look like chewbacca. So it certainly dosnt matter. What does is being comfortable with yourself, this will be displayed as confidence.

On aside note. If you wear certain clothes that are "you", then guess what you are following a fashion. What I am saying is some people tend to go out and not look put together, girls dont need a dude from jcrew's magazine to be impressed. What girls do notice though is if you take care of yourself. So if your going out with nasty T shirts on with holes, or wrinkled, dirty clothes then ya this shows you may not put in much effort there, so why would you give her much effort. Now you go out in a clean t shirt, no wrinkles, and look like you put in even a minor bit of effort... golden.

Women are complicated creatures till you figure out what works. When you do a lot of doors open. Also Whats up with this site having girl members but I never seem them drop their insight on situations like this. Im going to start getting my girlfriends impressions for on here.

[sacredrealm]

Well my main passion is creating music but the way I do this atm is solitary.
I actually was in a bookshop the other day.
And there was one that I liked nearby.
Its just that, in that setting, with other people around, and the girl looking focused on what she was looking for and not who was around her, it would kind of feel intrusive to try and talk.
Its like the idea of approaching them in other shops. They might be so focused on buying stuff/looking for something that they don't care.
Is that the wrong idea? haha.

I had a thought about record stores though and that might feel better, although I didn't see any I liked last time haha.

And I know what you mean. To me it seems kind of some mystery code that I haven't been let in on to join the "club" hah. But it probabaly isn't like that. And I know everything you need is within you.

A few weeks ago I saw one exactly how I like in the train station. I thought I could ask what train she was getting while she was looking at the screen but I lost track of her and couldn't tell if it'd be welcomed. (silly me).

[newtope25]

Ok look. Most guys are doing exactly what you are doing. They see that girl in the right setting and then they psych themselves out. Most of the time those girls dont even care what you say when you approach them. What matters is that you DID approach them. Dont worry about rejection, it means nothing, they dont know you and you dont know them so It will happen. Youll probably never see them again unless you are in a small small town. So you have nothing to lose. Just be yourself when you talk to them, they can pick up on bullshit really well, they are like walking lie detectors lol. So just be yourself. The only tip I would give is that when you do approach them dont talk to quietly, some guys mumble and thats a sign of insecurity.

Dont feel like you are intruding either, this girl may have checked you out when you werent looking and wants you to come and talk to her. There really isnt a mystery or code to it. A lot of girls dont get approached in daytime or in public, they only get approached at clubs. So approaching girls in the daytime gets you a leg up on most men. And like I said who cares what they think anyway, if the reject you its no biggie there are only billions more. So do that in the library, or in a music shop. Girls love guys that know/make music. So that should drive your confidence my man.

And one last time, I know we are all here for a boost in our Penis size, but girls at the end of the day could care less. If your worried about pleasing women, pick up a book on two about how to become a god at oral.

[sacredrealm]

Yeah thanks for the words.

Thats something Ive wondered before. I mean, Ive thought many times "that girl probabaly gets "hit on" hundreds of times each day" and so theres not much point going through all that to try. But I very rarely actualy see anyone approaching them in the day time in those settings.....so maybe you're right.
The couple of times I have seen others do it it has sort of fizzled into nothing in the end. But I guess its the trying that counts.

And I would just be myself. I hate "chat up" lines and those "PUA" things. Although myself might be a little weird, but like you said I'd have to not care about what they thought or the result.

But I guess the "real life" approaching would be something to move toward trying, as trying online can get abit tedious as theres few women compared to the amount of men bombarding them haha.

Ah, thats interesting.
I just find it hard to beleive they wouldn't have a preference since theres so many to choose from and they (in my mind) will want the best hah.
But anywya the way I see (if you're right) is its like it might not be something they'd care about initialy, or atleast might say they don't, but it might make a difference when it actually comes to the action.

[sacredrealm]

Yeah thanks for the words.

Thats something Ive wondered before. I mean, Ive thought many times "that girl probabaly gets "hit on" hundreds of times each day and so theres not much point going through all that to try". But I very rarely actualy see anyone approaching them in the day time in those settings.....so maybe you're right.
The couple of times I have seen others do it it has sort of fizzled into nothing in the end. But I guess its the trying that counts.

And I would just be myself. I hate "chat up" lines and those "PUA" things. Although myself might be a little weird, but like you said I'd have to not care about what they thought or the result.

But I guess the "real life" approaching would be something to move toward trying, as trying online can get abit tedious as theres few women compared to the amount of men bombarding them haha.
But I should also not beat myself up (as I have before) if I miss a chance to try this or decide not to, or try but fail. Because I shouldn't expect to go from the bottom of the ladder (no contact) to the top, in one hah.

Ah, thats interesting.
I just find it hard to beleive they wouldn't have a preference since theres so many to choose from and they (in my mind) will want the best hah.
But anywya the way I see (if you're right) is its like it might not be something they'd care about initialy, or atleast might say they don't, but it might make a difference when it actually comes to the action.