Why the FUCK can't I gain?

[JDC93 Member Find all posts View Profile Close JDC93]

Is there any reasonably accurate way to estimate how many layers of tunica you have? I've been at this shit for nearly five months and I haven't gained ANYTHING. NOTHING. NOTHING.

I am about at the point where I am going to go hang a couple 45lb plates off of my penis "just cause". My expectations aren't that high; I'm not one of the mentally deranged folks trying to get a 9 incher. If I could add one inch in a year I'd be fucking ECSTATIC.

Sorry for venting, but working at this religiously for 5 months and seeing absolutely zero ROI is frustrating.

Are there any basically non-existant gainers who have eventually added length? At what point do you say 'fuck it' and opt for surgery?

[Mark 1 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mark 1]

What is your routine?

[kencuis Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kencuis]

What is you rutine?

[rbi99 Retired Moderator Member of the Month Nov 2017PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close rbi99]

Not only what is it, how often?

[Johnny19 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny19]

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[Shortdog Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Shortdog]

I believe you must first examine your routine, frequency, and most importantly technique. If you have the proper technique and routine you may have to look into advanced workouts such as Uli's, Supra Slammers, bundled stretches, and Jelq at different angles. Good luck!!

[ThirdArm Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ThirdArm]

I take it that you want length (not girth), judging by your post. Some guys just gain one way more easily than the other. At least that's a trend that we've noticed around here.Have you measured girth? (Even if that's not your goal).

Yes, hanging does seem to give its participants gains, but just understand that it's a significantly bigger time commitment than a basic stretching and jelqing routine. Additionally, there's a good deal of reading up to do before you embark on that safely. I understand your frustration, since 5 months x X hours per week is a lot of time invested here.

Post up your routine so we can critique it for you, JDC.

[Hephaestus Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hephaestus]

Feel free to give up if you want to. Most people who can't see newbie gains do this. I'm almost in my 6th month PEing and also didn't see a single gain, but I'm trying different routines and techniques. Just because one single routine didn't work, it does mean others will not. Also post your routine dude =), there's no other way for us to know if you're doing something wrong..

[hihopes1286 Member Find all posts View Profile Close hihopes1286]

How is your EQ since you started PE?

[adam1973 Member Find all posts View Profile Close adam1973]

I did pe for almost a year and had 0 ZERO results. I gave up. It also caused me some minor ED.

[NCC707 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NCC707]

I did pe for almost a year and had 0 ZERO results. I gave up. It also caused me some minor ED.

Why are you here? To fix your ED? Do you plan to start PE again?

[adam1973 Member Find all posts View Profile Close adam1973]

Im here cause I can be here and to let others know that PE is a bunch of BS

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

Based on my experience, and all those I've known who have made solid gains, it is just
a question of striking the right cord. I did not gain, except for improved EQ for three solid
months. However, I kept slowly, ever so slowly, increasing time and intensity, until I
was jelqing 90 minutes a day, plus a half hour of stretching, for a total of 2 hours a day,
7 days a week.

I was also doing marathon edging sessions of 2 hours or longer.

It was during this time that I started to gain--fast.

[WhiteNectar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close WhiteNectar]

Based on my experience, and all those I've known who have made solid gains, it is just
a question of striking the right cord. I did not gain, except for improved EQ for three solid
months. However, I kept slowly, ever so slowly, increasing time and intensity, until I
was jelqing 90 minutes a day, plus a half hour of stretching, for a total of 2 hours a day,
7 days a week.

I was also doing marathon edging sessions of 2 hours or longer.

It was during this time that I started to gain--fast.

4 hours everyday??? how the heck did you accomplish that? Don't you have a job / college to attend, have a family to look after....?? I mean how can you manage that much time everyday!!?? No wonder those results!!!

[JDC93 Member Find all posts View Profile Close JDC93]

I don't think PE is "a bunch of BS" like Adam said, but I don't think it's in the cards for some people.

Anyways, my routine is a modified JP90. Pretty much everything is the same, except more reps are added. Directional stretches (more reps), A-stretches, followed by jelqing (JP90-style plus more reps). I'm guessing that my stretching normally runs anywhere from 20-minutes (normally around 30) to 40 and my jelqing runs anywhere from 40 minutes to over an hour, depeding on how I'm feeling. I also do JAI stretches (around 15-20 reps a set, gradually working up the intensity) 2-4 times a day.

I generally aim for a 4 on, 1 off schedule, however sometimes it will end up being 4 on, 2 on, 3 on due to work and life in general. I will say that overall, I am quite consistent.

PIs are virtually non-existant; a few months back I would get that nice, tired dull-ache after a few my workouts and I interpreted that as a positive. Lately, my EQ has decreased and I rarely get erections during the day anymore. There are other things going on in my life and I'm not 100% certain that the EQ loss is attributable to PE and possible overtraining.

I used to balloon after my workouts ALL of the time for at least 20 minutes, but within the last month I now take longer to get the 10/10 rock hard erection, and I end up ejaculating sometimes as little as 7 minutes into my ballooning session. Quite odd, considering I used to be able to do 20 minutes no problem.