Kickoff for Hardgainers?

[Hephaestus Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hephaestus]

Anyone has any hint for a hardgainer? I've been PEing for 7 moths by now and I won't stop until I see my gains, but maybe some advice from other hard gainers as me could be good! Any of you took more than 6 months to see your first gains? How long and what did you do?

Obs: I'm currently doing this as a routine: bathmate+stretches+jelqing+edging
(Also, I can't buy any device for quite some time, I'm a college student and I'm out of money.. hehe.. I regret buying hte bathmate, even though it gives me a batter EQ, a bibhanger could be much better... should I make a sock hanger?)

I know I keep posting and asking from help, but advice and knowledge is always good!

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

18,510 jelqs and nothing? I can't believe my eyes every time I see your signature bro. I guess I'm not a hard gainer, but hey I'll think about this for a bit and see what my mind can come up with. I shall return in a bit back from the future.

[GoingForGold Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GoingForGold]

Take your penis to the limit with your stretches. Don't hurt your unit, just reach the limit and push(pull) past it slowly day by day.

[Hephaestus Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hephaestus]

Yo! Thanks for the quick reply! Yup, I do 130 jelqs/day (100 wet, 30 v jelqs), 2 days on, 1 day off and keep a personal log with a counter, It's no BS, I can't think of a way to prove it, so you must trust my word, I change my personal counter every day and my signature counter every now and then.. i think that if you do the maths you'll get to something near my numbers.. Thanks for the support, I'm waiting for your reply!

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Do you have a log on PEgym?

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Take your penis to the limit with your stretches. Don't hurt your unit, just reach the limit and push(pull) past it slowly day by day.

I agree with this most definitely. I'm always pulling past the limit, making sure to not tear a lig.

[Hephaestus Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hephaestus]

I see... I've been using a lot of strength on my stretches already, and I work out frequently, so the applied force must be at least considerable. I feel a considerable pull in every stretch I do.. I'm going to try mandingo stretches today, let's see if it's good for me.. What do you mean to the limit? Pull it with all I can? I don't think I've ever got my unit hurt, this son of a **** is really resistent, all I've ever seen was red dots.. I must have 986 tunica layers.

[Hephaestus Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hephaestus]

Nope, I do not have a log, but I'm willing to paste my personal log to the gym, I'm just kind of lazy to do it, it's all in abbreviations, so nobody would understand it, but I think I'll take some time tonight to ''translate'' it..

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

How often do you up your intensity?

IE; last week I did manual stretches, LROUD with 15 quick kegels and 5 left and right circle stretches following each LROUD stretch each day. Then this week I up'd it to where I'm doing 25 quick kegels per stretch, and 10 left and right circle stretches following each LROUD stretch. I don't really up the helicopter shakes. I also did 50 dry OK jelq strokes last week each day, and this week I up'd it to 75 each day. I PE M-F.

[donjelqer76 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close donjelqer76]

I give you props for hanging in there. I think maybe its time to experiment a little with your routine to see if you can find a good combination that works for you.

Ever tried separating your work and trying to work on only length for example?

[Hephaestus Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hephaestus]

Jay: Not very frequently, but sometimes I get more intense. And yes, I've been thinking about going harder into PE, maybe I'm taking too much rest days, my unit is resistent as hell, I think it can take it! If I keep progressing in this way, wouldn't I end up doing 1000 jelqs with 400 kegels and etc, daily? I have 2 daily hours for PE, not much more than that!

DonJelqer: Never tried hanging, don't know much about positions and etc.. I'd be happy to research about it, if I had money for a hanger.. Is a sock hanger capable of giving any results? I've been considering started hanging if 4 or more months with the bathmate gave me no results. Never focused my work in length, do you have any good exercises for lenght ? It's my main objective (+2'' BPEL, +0.5'' EG).

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

In my opinion quality is better than quantity, but every now and then you need to up your quantity per your PI's.

If you ever reach doing 1,000 good quality jelqs a day then I would think umm, I actually don't know what to think lol

[Wolfemother Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Wolfemother]

If you believe that you are stretching with maximum intensity then Hanging may be for you. But before you commit to hanging have you tried increasing the amount of time stretching.
Try warming up in the Bath, as hot as you like but not luke warm. I find a bath warms the under carriage ligs as well as the tunica.

After about 20 Min warm up Stretch SU and SD for 30min with 30-60 sec holds.

Also have you read up on LOT. I find SU gives best results for me.

Also measure BPSFL before and after stretching. Are you seeing any gains in BPSFL after stretching?

[Hephaestus Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hephaestus]

lol.. Well, I do 3-4 seconds jelq reps.. I've never seen negative PI's, only red dots (mostly with the bathmate) and a bit of skin darkening.. Nothing more.. I think I can increase the jelq number, but not much, as I won't have time to the stretches, bathmate and edging..

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Are you doing stretching, jelqing, bathmate, and edging all in one session?