Struggling to gain length with manual pe :(

[thatguy.com Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thatguy.com]

I've been p.eing for over a year and I seem to have hit a wall with my length gaining. I just completed a 1mth routine I kinda made up which included: two weeks of jp90 stretches and kegels (5 on 2 off) followed by 2 weeks of straight stretches (30 sec holds) and Mandingo stretches. Quite intense pressure on these stretches too. (5 on 2 off). I can only do these exercises in the shower due to privacy and my sessions last approx 7-12mins total. Am I simply not exercising long enough? I find it really hard to gain length and I think this is due to my girth which is higher than average.. Very frustrated with my length and feeling discouraged ATM. Any advise please??
I'd also like to NOT use any devices but have conceded that hanging may be a good option for me.

Advice please?

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Hold your stretches for a longer period of time; 30 seconds seems pointless, IMO.

[Captain Jack Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Captain Jack]

Hold your stretches for a longer period of time; 30 seconds seems pointless, IMO.

Pointless for someone who has been PEing for a year, or pointless period...?

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Pointless for someone who has been PEing for a year, or pointless period...?

IMHO, pointless period. I apologize to everybody who disagrees; I surely don't want to start a debate lol

[Captain Jack Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Captain Jack]

IMHO, pointless period. I apologize to everybody who disagrees; I surely don't want to start a debate lol

I'm interested in what you are saying here. Could you expand on your reasoning? I'd love to see a good debate...

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

I'm interested in what you are saying here. Could you expand on your reasoning? I'd love to see a good debate...

All I'm saying is hold stretches for longer than 30 seconds lol my reasoning is because, well, I hold mine for at least 2 minutes each, and I have gained an inch and a quarter in BPEL in 8 weeks.

[Captain Jack Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Captain Jack]

All I'm saying is hold stretches for longer than 30 seconds lol my reasoning is because, well, I hold mine for at least 2 minutes each, and I have gained an inch and a quarter in BPEL in 8 weeks.

Sounds like pretty good reasoning!

[NeedSevenBySix Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NeedSevenBySix]

Some people hang for hours at a time. 30 seconds is nothing.

[jay1993 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jay1993]

Do you jelq? You need everything in your routine!

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

I'll even add that I only do 50 dry OK jelq strokes each PE session. Whether or not these really contribute to my length gains, don't ask me lol

[jcarrier Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jcarrier]

Jay, how can you hold the stretch for 2 minutes? Do you use light force? I do these 30 sec and have gained length, but i do think there is merit to maintaining the stretches for longer.

[thatguy.com Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thatguy.com]

I use to jelq and still do abit but for me it only seemed to help my girth. I want length only. And I could try holding these stretches longer, for sure. I read 30sec for an intense stretch was a recommended time.

[mike thomas Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mike thomas]

Im doing it for atleast a minute and 30 seconds its better
you feel it like its a real work out

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Jay, how can you hold the stretch for 2 minutes? Do you use light force? I do these 30 sec and have gained length, but i do think there is merit to maintaining the stretches for longer.

In the beginning of my PE journey I used light force, but now I don't.

[mikeguima Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mikeguima]

All I'm saying is hold stretches for longer than 30 seconds lol my reasoning is because, well, I hold mine for at least 2 minutes each, and I have gained an inch and a quarter in BPEL in 8 weeks.

You gained that much in only 8 weeks? What's your routine? I think you should do a thread on it...