- 05-20-2013 #11
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I thought it was a good first post. Basically chem PE is bullshit, penis pills don't work, supplements won't give you a bigger cock but they'll aid recovery plus help prevent injury and guys would benefit more from having more self esteem than a bigger dick.
- 05-20-2013 #12
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I think I agree with what he says tbh. You can't make your dick bigger by taking pills, there are no pills that can target limbs like the penis. And increasing bloodflow only helps if you actually try to get the erection, otherwise there's not that much blood circulating the penis. I think for example that my gains of about 2,5-3,5cm in lenght (different ways to measure) and my increased hardness if probably just from me forcing more blood into the penis, nothing more.
Yeah, you can make limbs longer my stretching them (neck, arms, legs, everything) but they ALL come with a downside. I don't think I'll keep on doing PE if I don't see more gains until August. And I will never try hanging and stuff like that because that shit sounds dangerous. It's not woth it getting 1-2cm extra when you can injure yourself.
- 05-20-2013 #13
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One of the problems that PE faces, and there have been many discussions about it, is that it remains in the realm of pseudo science because real science is unwilling and unable to do any research on it. It is summarily rejected throughout the medical community, as you seem to be doing, or labeled simply as dangerous because nobody knows enough about it, as you clearly have done. We aren't against advice you are giving, but are frustrated with the medical community because they are unwilling to take the risk of liability to do actual research studies on PE. The PE community as a whole are also frustrated because we end up operating in a very grey area with our exercises. We know how to make it work through individual trial and error but nobody really knows in actual scientific terms and processes what is really happening to promote growth. It would be beneficial to so many men to have the scientific medical community take the risk and really sort out the how and why of PE success. We know it works but live on the fringe of pseudo science, but all it would take is some people in the medical community to legitimize our so called exercises and make it real science. PE would be validated, the process understood properly so risk would be greatly reduced, and men would have opportunity to naturally cure their ED and other problems (PE is NOT about growth, it is about healthy properly functioning penises, growth is a nice side effect). Of course there's no money in natural remedies, no pills to sell or surgeries to charge or doctors visits to pay for. Money is the great motivator it seems in a profession that espouses itself to helping people.Start 12MAR'13
"Be nice to your penis, you should encourage it to grow, not force it to"
"Gains occur while balancing the fine line between undertraining and overtraining"
"Undertraining slows the gains, overtraining stops them"
- 05-20-2013 #14
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Well a big part of the problem PE, ED, Premature Ejaculation, Delayed Ejaculation, Peyronie's Disease, etc. are poorly understood and researched in the medical field is because men are embarrassed to come forward. Which really is shame. Money is an issue as well, but most people assume these things are small, isolated issues when in reality a large number of men I would most likely suffer from one or more of the issues I've mentioned. It's not the 1-5% people think. It's probably more like 20-40%.
- 05-20-2013 #15
- 05-20-2013 #16
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Hi Holdfast! I am not sure if anyone wrote you a "Greeting-Welcome to the PEGym" post yet,
before you (fell/jumped/got pushed/lured by BigO) into the cauldron of debate.
Okee-dokee...We enjoy good hearted blathering, verbal jostling, and close inspection of the Potholes of life. Mostly just stay on topic, or we'll all march like lemmings into the Pit of Despair.
There, I feel much better, do you ? Oh good, Aye Caramba !
Send food to stay on our good side. Or you get taunted. Mountain Oysters, Frog legs, Deep Fried Sushi, ought to do it.
Any questions, feel free to ask. Answers cost extra!
- 05-20-2013 #17
Start Here......To get you comfortable with what all the talk is. Sorry for hijacking your thread a little, I got hungry. Good luck in your journey!"A negative mind will never get you a positive life.”
- 05-20-2013 #18
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Holdfast...the right name for you...you seem to have a deathgrip on the lie that science is the answer for everything...truth is not science. Anecdotal evidence demands wisdom and discernment that lab rats will never understand...until they get proven wrong - even proven wrong without scientific truth. Something is true if it works....the research always catches up later....many times years later - after many of us believed lies for years. You are a statement maker and a bottom up thinker...and probably concerned that your penis is not as big as you want it to be. I am old enough to have made the mistake of believing experts...about diet, exercise, and other things - including pe. It works. It makes sense. The whys are a lot less important than the is. If you need to know the why about everything before you try them you will end up very unhappy....unhappy with a small penis - what could be worse than that. Come into the light my son....feel the warmth and enjoy...the sun doesn't cease to exist because you don't fully understand it. Ex nihilo brother.
- 05-20-2013 #19
- 05-20-2013 #20
Congrats on your degrees! I'm sure you'll help many people and be very rich in return.
That being said, PE is not what you learned about. To learn about PE, check out this website. Pseudo-science is about all we have on the subject. The user eow has collected a number of scientific texts on the subject of penis anatomy, if that is what you are interested in.
I personally think people would be better off getting in touch with THEIR penis, not the millions of words that have been put together on the subject. However, that is me, and I love my penis.
I love having a bigger, stronger penis. Do I need more self-esteem? Sure! Don't we all
P.S: I can do a routine safely 6 on, 1 off. I can also do a routine unsafely 1 on, 1 off. The details are what you're missing.
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