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    I guess a slight desperation mode has started becoming present, and thus I'm writing this thread!



    Since starting my PE journey I've gained roughly, and at most, 1 cm (or 0.39 inch) in lenght.

    These gains are by no means bad, and I sure am happy for them (). I never thou experienced any newbie gains, and I'm wondering: How could this be? And does this mean my potential for ''gains total'' is smaller than in comparison to someone experiencing good newbie gains?

    I have during the last couple of months not gained more than 2 millimeters (0.078 inch), and I'm looking for opinions on my routine change.

    Previously I've both been warming up, stretching, jelqing, bending, squeezing and V-jelqing, and I've come to think maybe the girth work is hindering my lenght gains. I have a relatively girthy penis at 5.7 inch Mid-girth.

    During the last 5 days I've turned to stretching only (I feel like Jelqing hasn't done much for my size, it always makes me lose my erection. And the other exercises are for girth), doing 1 day intense stretching/1 day intermediate stretching/1 day off (2 on/1 off). Every stretching session lasting for about 30-40 minutes. No warm down.

    During these sessions I feel like I get a good stretch in, and I'm always careful about avoiding pain. Especially semi-erect stretches I feel could be a difference-maker. After stretching like this I seem to turtle slightly thou, it certainly is not as full as after a jelqing session. During stretching I sometimes also feel like my penis gets a little cold (possibly because it's kept in the open. My balls tends to be cold during stretching aswell, this could be were the cold is coming from). Also my erect quality has gone down since starting these, which I've read is common from stretching. Maybe this could be a sign change is happening? And should some form of girth exercise be kept to avoid loss of girth?

    If any PE-Veterans, or guys that feel they have really good knowledge about this, could chime in and give their thoughs it would be very greatly appreciated . I'm laying my PE faith in your hands and will change up my routine based on your tips!


    Update:
    Previous routine (2 on/1 off)

    15 min - Warm up
    15 min - Stretching (Directional + Circles)
    Occasional Reheat
    15 min - Jelqing
    5-6 min - Semi erect bends
    5 min - Semi/Erect Squeezes
    4-5 min V-jelqing

    Occasionally routine was ended with edging while wearing a cock-ring.

    Routine usually takes little over an hour as I often lose my semi and have to jerk it a little while jelqing.
    Last edited by Egymp; 10-12-2013, 09:08 PM.
    Stats:
    (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
    NBPEL: 7.28
    ................7.40
    MEG: 5.70


    UPDATED: (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
    NBPEL: 7.59
    MEG: 5.9


    changed to Registered user group from Awaiting email verification.

  • #2
    More information might help narrow it down. Give us your routine with times added in, what about other PIs(morning wood?). You said you were stretching, jelqing, bending, squeezing and Vs, was this all in the same routine? I hope not, if it is then the answer is easy - overtraining. Have you at any point taken a couple months and went to a relatively light routine consistently? Have you taken a break for more than week and if so did you notice improved EQ during that break? (I'm hinting at signs of overtraining).
    Start 12MAR'13

    "Be nice to your penis, you should encourage it to grow, not force it to"
    "Gains occur while balancing the fine line between undertraining and overtraining"
    "Undertraining slows the gains, overtraining stops them"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TehDBare View Post
      More information might help narrow it down. Give us your routine with times added in, what about other PIs(morning wood?). You said you were stretching, jelqing, bending, squeezing and Vs, was this all in the same routine? I hope not, if it is then the answer is easy - overtraining. Have you at any point taken a couple months and went to a relatively light routine consistently? Have you taken a break for more than week and if so did you notice improved EQ during that break? (I'm hinting at signs of overtraining).
      Just updated with my previous routine. It was indeed done in the same workout, but only for a small time, each exercise. I rarely wake up with morning wood, but this is something I have credited to previously having porn-induced ED. :O
      Sex with girlfriend is good , the occasional going limp thing does occur... - but usually only after a period of high-sexual activity. When we're together we go at it about once a day. Since switching to intense stretching it has happened once, the going limp thing(ie, in the last 5 Days).

      It's just sooooooooo difficult for me to grasp the concept of me overtraining (but I do of course accept this as a possibility). In the months before my previous routine (the one listed) I went at it lighter, only stretching, jelqing and a few V-jelqs, and I don't think I saw more gains during that period. :/

      Yeah, I have taken a few days off sometimes resulting in improved EQ, but man! It's just so hard to Believe that I could be overtraining
      Last edited by Egymp; 10-12-2013, 09:10 PM.
      Stats:
      (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
      NBPEL: 7.28
      ................7.40
      MEG: 5.70


      UPDATED: (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
      NBPEL: 7.59
      MEG: 5.9


      changed to Registered user group from Awaiting email verification.

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      • #4
        I get the same thing during a heavy stretch routine.My shit just gets skinny and eq goes down but it's normal.As for sex don't pe the day you want some pussy!also your girth is good maybe you should try a length only routine for better results.
        Before 6.5 bpel 6.0 nbpel 4.9 meg
        NOW 7.5 bpel 6.5 nbpel 5.6 meg
        Goal 8.5 bpel 7.0 nbpel 6.0 meg maybe

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mrimalive1 View Post
          I get the same thing during a heavy stretch routine.My shit just gets skinny and eq goes down but it's normal.As for sex don't pe the day you want some pussy!also your girth is good maybe you should try a length only routine for better results.
          Yeah, mine sure does get skinny aswell . I checked out your log and saw that you had had some nice gains (Congratulations ) did those gains come from this kind of heavy stretching? If that's the case it could very well be that I haven't stretched intense enough in the past.
          Stats:
          (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
          NBPEL: 7.28
          ................7.40
          MEG: 5.70


          UPDATED: (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
          NBPEL: 7.59
          MEG: 5.9


          changed to Registered user group from Awaiting email verification.

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          • #6
            Hafe from the jp 90 routine.Then the rest from alot of stretching.I do do a serious girth routine tho because I want girth first.THANKS ALSO
            I didn't stretch really hard just enough to feel a good pull.I think it's more about the duration.
            Before 6.5 bpel 6.0 nbpel 4.9 meg
            NOW 7.5 bpel 6.5 nbpel 5.6 meg
            Goal 8.5 bpel 7.0 nbpel 6.0 meg maybe

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            • #7
              Yea, sounds like overtraining for sure, that's a lot of girth work for a 2/1. Given your lack of success thus far I'd say go with a basic routine for now, just stretch and jelq, keep it balanced. Stretch will certainly impact your EQ so some jelq will even that out. I'm also concerned that your intensity may be too high, you say you can't believe you are overtraining but describe your routine with "intense stretching", stretches shoukdnt be done intensely. Keep your mindset clear, gains don't come from the exercise, they come from rest. The trick is to find the balance. Watch your PIs closely (lack of morning wood is not from your previous porn addiction, with a girth focused routine you should have some monumental morning wood at least a couple times a week), take extra days off once in awhile if you aren't seeing morning wood. Cold unit and turtlng are neutral to negative PIs, but combined with others they should be considered.

              Lighten up intensity, lower times, take more time off. Seems counterintuitive but work less and you'll get better results.
              Start 12MAR'13

              "Be nice to your penis, you should encourage it to grow, not force it to"
              "Gains occur while balancing the fine line between undertraining and overtraining"
              "Undertraining slows the gains, overtraining stops them"

              Comment


              • #8
                All I can say is be lucky you have that girth... I would kill for it

                I'm stuck at 4.6 girth and it is terrible.

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                • #9
                  Demonlord do you do any girth work?
                  Before 6.5 bpel 6.0 nbpel 4.9 meg
                  NOW 7.5 bpel 6.5 nbpel 5.6 meg
                  Goal 8.5 bpel 7.0 nbpel 6.0 meg maybe

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Lets say this is a matter of overtraining. And that the last few months I have been overtraining, thus minimalizing my gains. How should I then proceed from now, start todays workout by going easier? take a day off first? a week off?
                    Stats:
                    (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
                    NBPEL: 7.28
                    ................7.40
                    MEG: 5.70


                    UPDATED: (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
                    NBPEL: 7.59
                    MEG: 5.9


                    changed to Registered user group from Awaiting email verification.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Dude I don't think there is anything wrong with you ...try stretching near a heater.
                      Before 6.5 bpel 6.0 nbpel 4.9 meg
                      NOW 7.5 bpel 6.5 nbpel 5.6 meg
                      Goal 8.5 bpel 7.0 nbpel 6.0 meg maybe

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Egymp View Post
                        Lets say this is a matter of overtraining. And that the last few months I have been overtraining, thus minimalizing my gains. How should I then proceed from now, start todays workout by going easier? take a day off first? a week off?
                        i would say take off until you start seeing morning wood again or one week, whichever comes first. Then start up with just jell and stretch with moderate times. Start below where you think you should be and build it up over the course of a couple weeks until your morning wood disappears, at that point you know you are close to the correct balance, scale back slightly from there and proceed forward.

                        Bestt hing to do is to stop thinking, stop thinking you can or should do more, and start listening to your unit. Your unit will tell you how much to be doing if your learn to speak its language (PIs).
                        Start 12MAR'13

                        "Be nice to your penis, you should encourage it to grow, not force it to"
                        "Gains occur while balancing the fine line between undertraining and overtraining"
                        "Undertraining slows the gains, overtraining stops them"

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I will be stretching less intensively from here on. And I will take the time off. Does a routine with a:
                          10 min - Warmup
                          20 min - Stretch
                          5 min - Jelq
                          -sound like a good restarter?
                          Stats:
                          (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
                          NBPEL: 7.28
                          ................7.40
                          MEG: 5.70


                          UPDATED: (Measured sitting down, non-bone pressed)
                          NBPEL: 7.59
                          MEG: 5.9


                          changed to Registered user group from Awaiting email verification.

                          Comment

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