How long without gains is too long?

[kirkoloft Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kirkoloft]

It's obvious that some people gain faster and for the rest it takes longer; but how long should you wait before you decide you have to up the intensity or change things up?
Isn't it better to measure more often to keep better track of your gains?

[OXO Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OXO]

Ive been going for 0.1 length gain per month as kinda of mini goals at the moment, however back in july i stopped gaining my usual 0.1/month that i had been gaining for the past 6 months. So i knew i had to change something. I added hanging and the gains started coming at my usual 0.1/month again.

So i guess if you're keeping a log and you see what kind of average gains ur making, when gains slow down or stop completely that would be a good time to throw something else into your routine or up your workout duration/intensity.

As for measuring more frequently, i dont recommend it and heres why. if you measure every few days EQ will vary massively, based up your sex life/masturbation/PE etc etc. So for example if you measure on monday at 7 BPEL and then on wednesday after a heavy pe workout you might only scrape 6'6-6'7 BPEL (which can be very disheartening, and may stop you from doing exercises that are in fact having a positive effect in gaining size just because you think they are doing the opposite because of your lack of EQ). In that short amount of time there is not much growth that will have occured.

I think measuring monthly is probably the best because it allows you to see whether that whole month has been successful and whether or not next month you need to add something new or take something out.

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[kirkoloft Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kirkoloft]

I tend to measure weekly and the day I measure has to be a rest day. I will measure several times during that day to get the most accurate measurements possible. It seems to have worked for me. Now, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that if your'e not gaining, not even one millimetre after two weeks by doing the same thing, you are not likely to gain after 4 or 5 weeks. So instead of wasting your time, hoping that eventually, as if by some miracle, you are going to see gains after one or two months, cut your losses and take it up a notch or even change it. I don't recommend that people just work out in hopes of gains, but be smart about it and seek the gains.

And how in god's name did you figure out that your potential is 0.1" per month? It is one thing to have a goal but to put it in terms of time...I don't know what to say! This is not a rhetorical question, I'm really curious to find out! I say the sooner the better. It may be 1 millimetre this week and .1" the next, but a gain's a gain and until I reach my goal, as long as I keep going, they have to keep coming.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Measuring weekly is a terrible idea, you can't honestly expect growth in a week?!

[kirkoloft Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kirkoloft]

Measuring weekly is a terrible idea, you can't honestly expect growth in a week?!

So how does it work? You gain nothing for 3 weeks and then comes week #4 and you start gaining? That doesn't sound rational to me!

[paintballer Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close paintballer]

yah I regret not measuring every month, but it seems like you can just tell if your gaining or not...

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

So how does it work? You gain nothing for 3 weeks and then comes week #4 and you start gaining? That doesn't sound rational to me!

I think you should measure as often as you need to for your own satisfaction. When I started to make real gains and not just from improved EQ, they came fast and furious. I'm glad I got into the habit of measuring often.

[GoingForGold Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GoingForGold]

If you're going for gains, I would say a month. You should "feel" gains coming once you get used to the process. For me, I get a looser, more stretchy feeling in my tunica and ligs combined with stronger EQ and expansion in the CCs/CS.

Sort of off topic, but I haven't gained in awhile and my penis feels more natural and comfortable on my body now that I've gotten used to the new size. I will probably go for gains again next Summer and maybe a bit this Winter.

[kirkoloft Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kirkoloft]

I think you should measure as often as you need to for your own satisfaction. When I started to make real gains and not just from improved EQ, they came fast and furious. I'm glad I got into the habit of measuring often.

I think this makes really good sense. Why is everyone so against measuring more often anyway? Does it stop you from gaining? NO!. Even if you haven't made any progress that week, you can still be happy about the gains you have made and remind yourself of them and use this as motivation.

[donjelqer76 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close donjelqer76]

3 months of no improvement is where I think a change should be made to a routine. It's easy to get variations in measurement from slight changes in EQ alone, so I don't see how anyone can accurately measure gains to the 1/10th of an inch on a weekly basis.

After a year or more of PE, gains will be so slow that it will take months to get any kind of measurable result anyways

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Well sometimes, yes this does happen. And from what I have read from numerous sources in the PE gym, growth rates are irrational, some people would not gain certain weeks or months and then all of a sudden see a growth spurt. But asides from this point, which is not what I meant by my comment, there is the whole point of measuring inaccuracies and differences between EQ also. I duno how fast of a gainer you are and how accurate of a measurer, but to think you can pinpoint differences in growth to the mm is either ridiculously naive or well-wishing. There is a reason that people suggest monthly or even bi-monthly measurements. If you are a really fast gainer and you are a newbie, you could possibly hope to gain 1/4 inch a month, therefore A. You are extremely lucky and should be counting your blessings, and B. Why would you care about which week you saw a little more growth than another.

On the other hand, if you are gaining less than 1/4 inch a month, meaning more like 1/8, how on earth are you supposed to accurately measure your growth from a weekly basis?

On another note, if you are measuring every week, you will end up becoming obsessive, like an overweight person weighing themselves everyday expecting for pounds to be different. And when they are different they are delighted, but when for some reason they are actually heavier that day [contrast to having poor EQ one day or week], they beat themselves up about it. Anyway, do what you like, you asked for advice here, so there is mine.

PE is a slow business, there are people on here who have not seen gains in months or even years, expecting gains on a weekly basis just contradicts the process that is taking place within PE.

So how does it work? You gain nothing for 3 weeks and then comes week #4 and you start gaining? That doesn't sound rational to me!

[kirkoloft Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close kirkoloft]

Thank you all for your opinions.

After a year or more of PE, gains will be so slow that it will take months to get any kind of measurable result anyways

I really hope I reach my goals before that starts to happen.

[donjelqer76 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close donjelqer76]

Thank you all for your opinions.




I really hope I reach my goals before that starts to happen.

I'm over 2 years in at this point, and haven't met my original goals (though, it's not near as important to me now)
At this point, I'm happy to gain 1/8"-1/4" per year for my efforts. I think this is a realistic goal for anyone with 1+ years of solid PE work. It might not seem like much, but in another 4 years that's an additional 1/2" - 1" of true gains.

Hopefully you do reach your goals as early as possible - but remember, it's not the end if/when things slow down!